TLC’s ‘The Sisterhood’: Real Housewives of Blasphemy

 

 

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Do these women ever read the Bibles they are holding?

Gossiping, X-rated discussions and blatant disrespect for God, have become a norm for reality television. But now it has even reached the church.  The TLC Network has launched a new reality TV show about the lives of five pastor’s wives in Atlanta called The Sisterhood. Based on the premiere episode and from the early marketing it appears that this show is attempting to fall into the same vein of other “Real Housewives” shows that have portrayed women as brash, worldly, backstabbers who have no concern for the Biblical role of a pastor’s wife or for the Word of God. This show and its sinful and offensive displays are yet another sign of the growing Apostasy in the church and mockery of the Christian faith.
The Biblical Role of Pastor’s Wife

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1 Timothy Chapter 3 lists the qualities and characteristics of a Godly Pastor’s wife.

In describing the character of a pastor’s wife, 1 Timothy 3:11 says: “Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.” In expounding on this verse, John Gill’s Exposition of the Bible said:

[Wives] must be as their husbands, “grave” in speech, gesture, and dress, of an honest report, a good behaviour, and chaste conversation; which will reflect honour and credit to their husbands: not slanderers; or accusers, and so act like devils, as the word is sometimes rendered; for should they act such a part, and accuse either the poor, or any of the members of the church wrongfully, or on any trifling occasion, as persons addicted to this vice are wont to do, it would be of bad consequence: and they also should be..” (source)

Let’s compare this admonition to the trailer for the show:

With a huge emphasis on fashion, being “fabulous” and drama, there was not much separating this trailer from the commercial for any of the “Housewives” reality TV shows. And not one of these women mentioned the name of Jesus Christ The Lord. This should be the first red flag.
The Bible goes into detail about what is appropriate behavior for women and men in the church. In discussing the character of older women in the church, it states:

But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: ..The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed. – Titus 2:1-5.

The Wives

 

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The ladies look like friends in this photo, but it only takes minutes before the “drama” ensues.

Here are some of the show’s descriptions of the pastor’s wives, also known as “First Ladies” (a made-up title). Let us compare the Biblical standards for the character of a pastor’s wife against the show’s own bios of each First Lady (with our commentary interspersed).

Meet the First Ladies:

DOMONIQUE

Domonique is anything but your typical preacher’s wife. She’s bold, she’s brash, and she’s unapologetically honest. After moving to Atlanta, she met and married Brian, an Evangelical pastor, and they had two daughters together. After years of growing The Good Life Ministry, the couple fell on hard times and were forced to close the church’s doors. They are now looking for new opportunities to fulfill their calling and Domonique is hoping to repair the damage that losing the church caused to her marriage.

Notice the marketing is that she is “anything but your typical preacher’s wife.” The idea of being a humble, meek, Godly woman is seen as passé and boring. Instead as is the case for many of the “Housewives” of reality television, Domonique is “bold, brash and unapologetically honest.” These traits more than any other are promoted time and time again for women on Reality TV. The idea that a woman should attack any person who is gossiping about them, “has issues” with them or is even looking at them the wrong way, has become a staple in reality television. This is the direction the world is going in, so why would a pastor’s wife want to be described in this fashion? Proverbs 31 is a chapter devoted to extolling the many wonderful characteristics of the Virtuous Godly Woman. Rather than being “brash”, argumentative and “unapologetically honest” a virtuous woman: “..openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.”

 

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As the “Black Barbie” of the show, Pastor Tara flaunts her body constantly.

TARA
When most people think of preacher’s wives, they think of demure ladies in big hats, conservative suits, and strands of pearls. So when people find out Tara is a First Lady, they usually do a double take. She’s fit and fabulous and her wardrobe leaves little to the imagination.

In discussing the dress for Christian women the Bible says: “In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.” (1 Timothy 2:9-10). Gold and pearls were extreme luxury items at that time and thus the message is clear – A Christian woman should not dress in a seductive, flashy manner and should not show off the most expensive wares of the day. This show already is trying to cast that teaching in a negative light by saying that the common perception of preacher’s wives is in a conservative outfit, as if it is a bad thing. But this particular wife on The Sisterhood is “fit and fabulous and her wardrobe leaves little to the imagination”

This is another emphasis of reality TV today: an obsession with women’s appearances. On numerous “Housewives” shows, the women are constantly focused on their physical appearance, staying fit, clothes, shoes, the most expensive, designer handbags and everything that goes to the superficial aspect of who they are. And now The Sisterhood appears to be following suit as Tara is repeatedly referred to as having a “Barbie doll body”, is featured exercising in skimpy, flesh-revealing gym clothes, while the women in general wearing form fitting dresses in the trailer.
Christians sin and will continue to sin while they have a redeemed spirit housed in their earthly, sinful bodies. No born again Christian is walking in sinless perfection. This article is not attempting to make the point that no Christians ever do wrong. But what is the spirit behind a show that is promoting behavior that is the exact opposite of what the Bible preaches? It is one thing for a Christian woman to be in error by wearing a revealing outfit. It is another to be on a show that promotes all of the women dressing this way. Why would a pastor’s wife, who is truly living for God, even want to be associated with this kind of spirit for this program?

CHRISTINA
It’s rare that you’ll hear a first lady say, “I’m Dominican and I don’t play!” But Christina often makes it known that she’s a sassy Latina who you don’t want to mess with.… And, if that weren’t stressful enough, Christina and Anthony also have to wrangle their two challenging teenage daughters who are just as sassy as their mother.

The Bible says of the Virtuous woman: “She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness. She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness. Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.” (Proverbs 31:26-28). The Christian woman who enjoys speaking wisdom (which is Biblical doctrine) and kind words is not the kind of woman you will find on The Sisterhood. Instead expect a Pastor’s wife “you don’t want to mess with.” A staple of reality TV about women is that there must be endless arguments, screaming matches and actual physical fighting on a weekly basis, with one woman in particular leading the charge. And it seems clear this show is trying to market this particular wife as one of those women. The show even promotes that her daughters are “sassy” and need to be “wrangled.”

To no surprise, Christina’s husband, Anthony Murray is Pastor of Oasis of Life Church, which is a major promoter of the Prosperity Gospel heresy – that focuses on earthly wealth, material success and prosperity over teaching the Biblical Gospel which is the forgiveness of sins through faith in Jesus Christ to receive eternal blessings. In his sermons and appearances on Christian Network TBN (the biggest promoter of Name it and Claim it, Prosperity Gospel Heresy in the world), he reinforces the same message using very little Bible Scripture in his teachings.

The Premiere

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Like other “Real Housewives” shows, the women get into a fight over nonsense.

The First episode, entitled “Thou Shalt Not Cross A First Lady” (it appears each episode’s title will be a spoof of the Ten Commandments), the worldliness and sinful rebellion was on full display:
The opening shot on the show focuses on Christina driving in her luxury SUV, wearing designer clothes, super high heels and tight pants as she declares that despite the stereotypes about pastor’s wives they can be “fabulous.” With her successful church, spacious home and designer fashion, Christina is the clear envy of her fellow First Ladies. And she glories in her worldly achievements. The Bible says with respect to material gain:

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. – 1 John 2:15-17.

Rather than speak of sharing the Gospel with her congregation or souls being saved, Christina and the other ladies equate sprawling church facilities, luxury cars and palatial homes as success. The show embraces worldly principles over Biblical ones. This is a common theme in the Apostasy – the rise of the false Christian church that makes its own doctrine and abandons the Biblical Gospel.

The first episode, which centered on an interracial couple, Tara and her husband, moving to Atlanta to start a ministry and joining the First Ladies clique, the other women gossip about this couple behind their back repeatedly. The “Gossip Scene” is a staple of sinful “Real Housewives” shows. It is essential to stir up controversy that at least two women are featured gossiping about another leading to an inevitable conflict. In this case, Tara’s husband was “fired” from his Senior Pastor position at his church after 6 weeks and the First Ladies conclude from their gossip that it must be for nefarious reasons. Tara is then invited to social gatherings just for the purpose of obtaining more personal information about she and her husband’s situation.
Remember the Bible says an elder woman in the church is not to be a “slanderer”, yet these women do not hesitate, on camera, to gossip about this woman and her husband’s situation This despite the husband telling them why he was dismissed (his explanation was apparently not believed).  The Bible is clear that gossip is a sin:

“Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer [gossip] among thy people..” – Leviticus 19:16.

“He that goeth about as a talebearer [gossip] revealeth secrets: therefore meddle not with him that flattereth with his lips. – Proverbs 20:19.

In Romans 1:30, the Apostle Paul puts “backbiters”, those who talk about others negatively behind their backs in the same category as those who are haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents..”

Despite these clear prohibitions, the pastor’s wives revel in gossip with each other. Christians will gossip and commit other sins, but after those sins the Holy Spirit convicts a believer to move them to repent and seek God’s forgiveness. Engaging in the blatant sin with no repentance is the sign of a reprobate and not a “real picture” of the Christian life.

X-Rated Content

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First Lady Ivy receives handcuffs as a gift for her husband and engages in explicit X-rated discussion.

Ivy, described as a “dutiful pastor’s wife”, receives a pair of handcuffs from her pastor husband, as an anniversary gift and the pastor then proceeds to describe his intentions for intimacy in X-rated, graphic detail. All on camera. As we have covered in detail in our article, Sex Sermons In The Church: Marketing God Through Lust, the new disturbing trend in the apostate church is for Pastors and their wives to discuss their own intimate relationship and have open discourse about sex is blasphemous and completely inappropriate for the Pastor or his wife.
1 Timothy 6:20 says: “But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.” For a woman to hold up items like this on camera and talk about her intimacy with her husband is only promoting lust and inappropriate thoughts in the minds of the viewers. It shows no respect for God or His Word.  Yet as is the case with “Real Housewives” franchises, there must be shock value and an over-emphasis on sexual immorality.

 

TLC Sisterhood Christian Review | Christina and Anthony Murray Oasis Church

Christina Murry and her husband, Pastor Anthony Murray display some of the most vulgar behavior on the show.

Christina, who is featured as the star of the program, because she and her husband are closest to having a mega church, had a vile discussion about sex with her two daughters who are not even high school Age. Her husband, the aforementioned Pastor Anthony Murray, not only condones their daughters fornication – he tells them “I know what God says about sex. But I also know reality”, conceding they will fornicate so that he opts to personally educate them on how to do so.  This shows this pastor has absolutely no respect for the Word of God. The Bible is clear on fornication:

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. – Galatians 5:19-20.
Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. – 1 Corinthians 6:18.

For a pastor to just ignore God’s commands because of the “reality” that many teenagers are fornicating is giving more respect to Satan’s system of temptation than to God’s Holy Spirit’s ability to work in his daughters to maintain their purity. Christina’s pastor husband then teaches the young girls about fornication using a banana and a condom for yet another, graphic, X-rated, demonstration (B&E – This scene was so inappropriate and vulgar this writer fast forwarded through it).  Proverbs 14:12 says: “There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.” Pastor Murray is more concerned about sexually-transmitted diseases than his daughters going to Hell, and thus justifies his “advice.” But he is completely out of line with the Word of God.

At the end of the talk Christina advises her daughters to inspect the bodies and private parts of their boyfriends they are sleeping with because, in her own words, “I can’t inspect weenies for you.”

Ephesians 5 says: “But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.”
What spirit is leading a pastor’s wife that would not only say this to her young daughter’s but be willing to say it on camera on national television? To be so filthy and inappropriate on TV and claim to be a Pastor of God is blasphemy. The allure of fame and riches has led this couple to compromise all sorts of basic  moral values, much less Biblical commands. Reality TV always demands “shock value” to get big ratings, lure advertising money and ensure a second season. And this disgusting,blasphemous scene certainly achieved its goal.
The Catfight

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Domonique has been given the role of one of the main fighters this season.

As with all of the “Real Housewives” shows, there is always the inevitable “drama” that leads to a finale scene of either a shouting match, pushing and shoving or all out brawl among the women. In The Sisterhood premiere, it followed the same formula. Please note that what led to this fight was a discussion of Tara’s bi-racial children, in which Tara said that rather than raising her children to just see themselves as African American, she taught them to see themselves as Christians first, citing Psalm 139, which says that we are “fearfully and wonderfully made” and discusses God’s creation of life in the womb. It is her use of this Scripture, that sparks the conflict:

And the irony is that the conflict all stemmed from the fact that Tara, the new wife in town, used Scripture when speaking to the two pastors’ wives who were gossiping about her the entire show. Tara is told repeatedly that she not use Scripture when having conversations among the ladies, and just “be herself.” When Tara tried her best to explain that using Scripture is a natural part of who she is, she was verbally attacked by the women.

 
Tara defending herself says: “My call is to evangelize. And you can’t evangelize without the Scriptures,” to which Ivy replies, yelling in anger “Yes you can evangelize without the Scriptures!” Romans 1:16 says: “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth…” The power of evangelizing comes from the Word of God, not from the creativity or techniques of the evangelist. This basic lack of understanding of the Gospel is just another reflection of how far from Bible-believing Christianity this show is.

The two antagonistic First Ladies show little to any concern or respect for the Scriptures. Why is it wrong for a Christian woman to use the Bible in conversation with other Christian women? Why would that make them so angry if a woman wants to use the Bible to explain why she raises her children to identify as Christians first and foremost?  Do Ivy and Domonique even understand the Gospel? In the only mention of the Lord Jesus Christ in the entire hour, Ivy tries to claim that Jesus did not quote Scripture in conversation with others. First off, every word Jesus said in the Gospels is Scripture and The Word of God itself. But beyond that, in the Gospels,  Jesus quoted 24 of the 27 books of the Old Testament a total of 84 times. In a prayer for His Disciples as well as all Christians to come in the future, Jesus said: “Sanctify them with thy truth: thy word is truth.” (John 17:17).  Christians are to embrace and love God’s Word. It should be a guide and a light to a Christian. And certainly not something to be angry about or take issue with.
More Heresy On The Way

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“Pastor” DeLana Rutherford and her husband are major promoters of the Prosperity Gospel heresy.

Although not on the premiere there is one other First Lady who will be featured this season:

DELANA
One look at DeLana singing on stage in her leather pants and spiked heels and you’ll definitely think she’s a rock star. But don’t let her rocker chick exterior fool you – she’s a First Lady through and through. DeLana and her husband Myles pastor the Worship with Wonders Church where music plays a big part in their ministry. They write their own music and perform original songs at every Sunday service. In addition to music, DeLana is passionate about helping children. She has two children of her own and often acts as a surrogate mother to young members of her congregation in need.

Like some of the other women on the show, DeLana is actually pastor of her church along with her husband. This in itself contradicts God’s Word. 1 Timothy and the Book of Titus both list the qualifications for a pastor and state that he should be: “the husband of one wife.” Scripture is clear that a Christian pastor should be a man. But again, in this current age of Biblical compromise, where the world’s ideas on how church should be done are more important than what God says on a matter, it is perfectly fine for women to be “pastors” and their husbands happily go along.
Beloved reader, this is rebellion against The Lord. The Bible says: “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.” (2 Timothy 3:16-17).

Rather than being written for “that time period” all Scripture is doctrine for Christians for all time. And God’s standards for the various offices in a church has not changed. But the world has, and thus the Apostate churches that are giving into worldly lusts, will thus ignore Scripture that does not meet their view. The Lord said: “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.”( Isaiah 55:8-9). It is foolish to presume one “knows better” than God on matters of God’s Word. But in the world of pride, vanity and self-promotion that is Reality TV, there is no time to promote Christian humility and obedience.

DeLana Rutherford is also a promoter of Prosperity Gospel or Word of Faith doctrine, as well as a signs and wonders ministry in which she and her husband perform numerous ‘miracles’ at their Worship With Wonders Church. Here is Rutherford receiving a “prophetic word” during one of her services.

Astute readers will notice she sounds almost identical in her tone, cadence and speech to Word of Faith heretic “Pastor” Paula White (even the name of DeLana’s church, Worship With Wonders, sounds similar to White’s Without Walls Church). In addition, DeLana guarantees miracles for her congregation including healing people of cancer. Now there is nothing wrong with praying for healing for any sickness or illness and God can and will heal. But Christians cannot presume to know God’s will when it comes to our earthly state. There are no guarantees of prosperity in this world because this is not Christ’s Kingdom. Jesus said “my kingdom is not of this world.” Christians are merely passing through this world and the afflictions and trials faced in this life are only working to build up the faith and refine them for greater glory in Heaven before God.

In this brief clip, the husband and wife pastors call upon church members to give testimonies of financial blessings they received and the true nature of their doctrine is quickly revealed.

Notice that the first man says that as his pastor taught him: “if you don’t tithe, 100% of what you earn is under the curse. But if you tithe, 90% is blessed” (to which the crowd starts to applause). Where is this in Scripture? It is not there. There is no part of the Bible that ever says anything like this. But the Old testament tithe, which was food given to the Levite priests who worked in the temple (and were not permitted by God to earn a living) is used in a major way today to guilt and compel unwitting church attendees into thinking that they have to give money to their pastors in order to obtain financial blessings for themselves. Jesus Christ healed people of sickness. Jesus Christ removed demons from people. Jesus Christ raised the dead to life again. And never once was anyone asked to pay Him for these blessings. The Biblical Gospel is about faith in Jesus, not an action. The man in the video actually says that Pastor taught him that “we have to do something..” in order to get a blessing.
Jesus teaches us that we are to have faith:

And he said unto his disciples, Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat; neither for the body, what ye shall put on. 23 The life is more than meat, and the body is more than raiment. 24 Consider the ravens: for they neither sow nor reap; which neither have storehouse nor barn; and God feedeth them: how much more are ye better than the fowls?.. But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

The Kingdom of God is salvation and His righteousness is Jesus Christ. So it is faith in Jesus that leads to blessings for believers, not any action of our own. A Christian is blessed because Jesus Christ earned the blessing through His shed blood on the cross, when He gave Himself as a ransom for their sins. And yet today, false teachers of the Word of God are misusing Old Testament Scriptures to push their congregations into believing that giving money is the “key” to unlocking God’s power in their lives. 2 Peter 2 says of these false preachers: “And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. “ Do not be deceived. Covetousness, desiring material gain, is at the heart of much false preaching. And a Reality TV show is a perfect opportunity to attain more wealth, success and promotion of the churches and ministries of all these women and their husbands.
Tune Out The Apostasy

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Jesus is the example for a born again Christian. Not a reality TV show.

Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. – Romans 16:17-18.

With the potential for big time TV salaries, mega-church ministries and fame, the women of The Sisterhood have shown in just one episode that they are more than willing to put Christianity in a horrible light. Instead of promoting Jesus Christ and the importance of salvation and escaping the punishment of hell and putting a spotlight on Christian living, The Sisterhood seems to be following the ways of the world, and taking the apostasy to Reality TV. Pray for these women repent of this blasphemy, go back to The Word of God and to embody the values for Christian women as God has stated them, not the “fabulous woman” of Reality TV. And rather than supporting the apostasy, share the Gospel and tune them out.

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  1. While these women are certainly part of no illuminati control conspiracy, at least not knowingly, they still serve as a dangerous tool that the devil can use against us. They may not be practicioners of witch craft or even darker arts, they still can imperil the souls of thousands if not millions of good men and women. BY trivializing christianity, the devil sets up a trap of sorts, where he leads us to believe our souls are saved when in actuallity they are not, and we are as far from Christ, perhaps even farther, than the ignorant heathen.

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  2. Well, BaE, you probably expected that I would have a comment for this, so I’d hate to disappoint you. lol

    I cannot help but agree with you on the majority of this article, but I do disagree, as I have in the past, regarding women as pastors/ministers.

    You state, very emphatically I might add, that:

    …all Scripture is doctrine for Christians for all time.

    I agree. However, you use this statement in conjunction with:

    Scripture is clear that a Christian pastor should be a man.

    This is where I disagree; more to the point, I believe your connection between these two quotes to be tenuous at best.

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    If I may engage you in a dialogue on this subject, I’d like to begin by asking you this:

    If we are to take the gender aspect of Titus and 1 Timothy as literal, what shall we do when a woman has a child? Shall she be put out and considered unclean? (Lev. 12:2)

    And, if we are taking the assignment of gender within Titus and 1 Timothy as literal and binding, then is it possible that only a man be guilty of covetousness? (Ex. 20:17, Deut. 5:21)

    With these same understandings regarding binding gender assignment, can we also be of understanding that a woman cannot commit adultery within her heart? (Matt. 5:28)

    Furthermore, if these are binding commands found within Titus and 1 Timothy, then surely all others are binding? For instance, ought we not shave every woman’s head who dares to pray with head uncovered? (1 Cor. 11:5)

    Furthermore, if it is the case that such gender specificity is binding for all time, ought not women also be completely silent? Paul writes that they ought not speak, but he also says they should be silent completely; therefore, do you agree that there ought not be women within choirs, nor testify? (1 Cor. 14:34)

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    You see where the concept of a binding gender assignment can be, at very best, difficult to hold? What’s more, BaE, believing that such a bind exists not only nullifies the doctrine of Christian freedom; it also creates contradiction within the Word of God.

    I look forward to your response.

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    • Your argument sounds good in the way you interpret the scriptures which you have quoted, but it also would be good to give scripture to prove your interpretation, or why you believe that these scripture should be interpreted the way you do. Don’t get me wrong I’m just trying to understand where you coming from. After all the bible says that we should be workman rightly dividing the word of truth. So having quoted these scriptures what are they really saying to us?

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      • Well, Lloyd, I don’t really want to put any words into BaE’s mouth, nor do I want to take anything away from what he might say. That puts me in a tough predicament in attempting to answer you prior to his response.

        However, I’ll go a little further in what the mindset he presents here on this subject alone must mean for the rest of Scripture with a single thought.

        If this (gender assignment RE pastors) cannot possibly be culturally, historically or in any other way subjective to time; NOTHING in the Bible can.

        As one begins to study through early church history; biblical history; biblical hermeneutics, etc., it is difficult to deny two facts:
        1) The Bible is, and will always be, the absolute Word of God- There is no other explanation; and
        2) The modern church, both Protestant and Catholic, have screwed a lot up in terms of biblical understanding throughout the years- To the point where some things border upon apostasy; some things border upon foolishness; and some things border upon “doctrines of demons.”

        I really don’t want to say too much more until BaE responds, so keep watching the comment thread, because I do intend to answer you in greater detail as I answer BaE. Thanks, Lloyd!

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        • ” The modern church, both Protestant and Catholic, have screwed a lot up in terms of biblical understanding throughout the years- To the point where some things border upon apostasy; some things border upon foolishness; and some things border upon “doctrines of demons.”

          I totally agree and understand what you are saying. I will be watching this post to see if BAE responds. Please BAE respond!!!

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    • “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
      For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve.
      And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.” (1Timothy 2:15)

      The prohibition and qualification given right from scripture with no caveat. Those that deny, dismiss or twist God’s Word do so to their own detriment

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      • Whyman, would you then say that women should also not sing, nor testify? Paul does say that they should be in silence!

        Furthermore, should we shave a woman’s head if she prays or prophesies aloud without her head covered? Paul advocated that, and it is right from Scripture, and there is no caveat. So, is it denying, dismissing, or twisting God’s Word when we do NOT do this?

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        I also want to make sure that this does not go without notice: I agree with the rest of the article regarding this series. I do not believe that these women are behaving properly, etc. This point, regarding women in ministry, is my only contention; as such, it is what I’ve brought up.

        I have no problems in conversing about this, but I don’t want there to be the misconception that I’m trying to draw attention away from the rest of the article.

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    • Hey RETS,

      I know that we have had this discussion before, so I am going to be a little more “to the point” so we don’t just re-hash the same ideas. But please do not take my very strong disagreement with your belief as anger or animosity. It is far from it.

      1. Gender Distinction verses – Your analogy with the verse you use is not accurate. Why? Because in the Bible, Scripture says a pastor is the “husband of one wife” So if you are going to draw a scriptural comparison, you should use the verses in the Bible that have the word HUSBAND and WIFE. And let’s see if there is or isn’t a gender distinction:

      Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. – Genesis 3:16.

      And Sarai Abram’s wife took Hagar her maid the Egyptian, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife. — Genesis 16:3

      If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. – Exodus 21:22.

      And a man lie with her carnally, and it be hid from the eyes of her husband, and be kept close, and she be defiled, and there be no witness against her, neither she be taken with the manner; – Numbers 5:13.

      Notice, in all these examples, and hundreds more, HUSBAND means male and WIFE means female. So when Scripture says in 1 Timothy and in Titus, the a pastor must be the “husband of one wife” there is no ambiguity whatsoever.

      As for your verse from Leviticus 12, I have some news for you. When a woman delivers a baby in America in this “modern age”, the doctor declares her “unclean” for 6 weeks. I won’t get into all of the biological details behind, but suffice to say, a woman’s condition is radically different in the weeks after child birth.

      1 Corinthians 11 is not talking about a woman wearing a hat to church. It is re-emphasizing the order God has set where a husband has authority over his wife. HE is her covering. This is the actual meaning of this passage.

      As for women not speaking in church, this is in reference to preaching and teaching. And again, underscores the point, that God has appointed an order in church. And women are not to have authority over men. Pastors are to be the husband of one wife. So yes, it is a very literal interpretation.

      The other thing I notice in your line of thinking is that it seems to advocate same-sex marriage. If a Christian woman is unable to find a good Christian man, why not marry another Christian woman? If no man is there to “step up”, and a woman is, then why not throw away, that old, ancient “gender distinction”? This seems to be the logical conclusion from your point, right?

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      • As a husband/father of three wonderful kids, I absolutely understand why the wife is considered “unclean” for 6 weeks. Their body goes through a lot of trauma, shifting, stretching, tearing. This gives their body time to recover from birthing a child.

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  3. Mystery Babylon mother of harlots and abominations.

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  4. Agree with most of the commentary and critique here. However, in Malachai God told the Israelites that they had robbed Him by not giving the tithe. Now, I know some Christians will say the tithe was meant only for the old testament. But, I disagree. I have seen how God blesses those who give the tithe and more. And, I have seen how those who do not give do not get blessings. So be careful about saying that the tithe is not necessary and that giving to true Christian ministry does not invoke God’s blessings. In my observation that is a dangerously false assertion. Maranatha

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    • I have a question for you…did you read in the description of tithes as being specific things? That the items that were to be tithed were natural God-made things? Most importantly, do you consider the fact that God allows you wake up in the morning and live your life being blessed? The 6th chapter of Timothy warn us about equating gain with Godliness. Not trying to start an argument, just trying to help you appreciate the life God gave you and to help you break free of the worldly view of what God’s blessings really are. Think about it

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  5. Thank you B&E I LOVE how you allow God to work in your life and bring about real issues that affect God kingdom this is a very clear example of the state of christianity today i agree with what i read 100% I too believe a women should be silence in the church my pray go out to other that is seeking the true word of God that they stay in pray and do not allow their selves to be lost in the prosperity movement. will you become a christian Act2:38 http://www.biblestudyguide.org

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  6. @RETS, you raise a question of male & female roles, saying, ” Whyman, would you then say that women should also not sing, nor testify?Paul does say that they should be in silence!” only to prove the confusion where you seek to disrupt the conversation about honoring our Yeshua, or Jesus; as a wife of a pastor. No woman need silence her praise, if we praise our Elohim. Great women of mighty praise include Moses’s sister Mariam, many NT saints as Elizabeth & Anna. Have you read Yeshua’s mother’s impreccatory prayers and humble thanks? Women should be glad for our support role, but let men leading in faith teach us. Women teaching women (only) builds strong families.

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    • @RETS, I apologize for two things: my previous post didn’t make much sense, and subsequently has a puzzling tone. If I knew how to delete it I would. My smartphone does not show that as an option!

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    • Hi Holly.

      Note that I qualified that by also stating “in choirs;” furthermore, since I was referring to a specific passage, the contextual setting of that passage applies: In this sense, church.

      Ergo, by carrying the same strict interpretation used by BaE on the verses wherein he argues against women in ministry, one would also have to come to the conclusion that women are also to be silent completely while in church. That does not mean they could not sing, testify and otherwise praise God in their homes.

      I do not believe that is what the Bible is saying, and having studied the time, I do not believe it is what Paul was stating either.

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  7. This brings my spirit to grief. The world’s light is pulling, but greater is He that is in you! I pray that they are all moved to repentance. Satan has shown them the world and it looks good to them. Gaining the world, and losing their souls…

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  8. jason,i think i misunderstood this article. what the article is trying to say,and which i believe as the truth is that, “our tithes and offerings doesnt make us blessed automatically. what guarantees our blessings is what jesus on the cross of calvary. Our tithes and offerings are honour to God,which God honour in return. matthem 6v33 makes this clear.

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  9. I don’t watch TV anymore but wow the story about the pastor basically giving his daughters sex advice because they may sleep with their BF’s is pretty shocking. Not only are church numbers falling everywhere but even of the churches we have left we have stuff like this going on. The 80% claimed christians in america is rubbish, you only have to look at society and what is passed off as normal to see it is wrong. I would be surprised if true Bible believing christians even make up 25% of the population. We are living in a post-christian society that is only going further downhill.

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  10. I watched the first episode and I agree with you on some aspects. I don’t think it was a wise decision for any of these people to have signed on for this show. However, I don’t see how its ungodly to take care of your body (the Barbie wife), or take an interest in fashion. Some of your points were spot on, but others just sounded like you were looking for every reason to bash the show, including things that weren’t relevant. And as for the banana condom thing, that was awkward and inappropriate the way it was handled BUT its really not realistic to expect everyone to abstain until marriage. And this is coming from someone who DID abstain! All the friends I had who took the purity vow alongside me many years ago did not end up holding up to it. And these are people who are saved, some of them are pastors kids as well.

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    • 1 Timothy 4:8 – For bodily exercise profiteth little: but godliness is profitable unto all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come.

      Their spiritual walk (godliness) is in severe disarray as portrayed by this show. They seek worldly, materialistic things instead of Jesus. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with fashion, but if it becomes an idol replacing God, that’s when there’s a problem. These women are clearly guilty of idolatry in many forms.

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      • I see what you’re saying but I can’t rightfully say they are guilty of idolatry…I mean what would you say about someone who is really into a hobby, or someone who follows sports….? I’m going to have to stop reading this website as there seems to be more and more Pharisee/religious type of behavior in the articles and comment sections. I’m just thankful to God that none of you ARE God, because the self-righteousness is unreal. Side bar about people who may be into fashion or nice things: one thing I’ve learned is that He will meet us where we are, so I guarantee there are people who are just as saved as we are who may not look like it outwardly, but you shouldn’t sit there and point fingers at someone because He may be working on them inwardly and you are just seeing the current state. Just an fyi.

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        • Hi Jaelle,

          Thanks for your comments. I think you may have misunderstood the point being made in the article. So I want to address a few of your comments.

          Fashion and fitness – Of course, this article is not saying that being into fashion or fitness is a sin. That is not the point whatsoever. The point being made was that rather than being a “real look” into the lives of Christian women, the Sisterhood is following the same formula of other “Real Housewives” shows. And these shows, go out of their way to promote an emphasis on women’s appearances. Again, there is nothing wrong with wanting to dress nicely, but as a Pastor’s wife, why would that be your first statement to start this show? With a chance to show Christianity to America and the world, why all this empahsis on being a “Barbie” and so on? I think it’s the emphasis by these particular women that is troubling.

          The Banana lesson – Here I disagree. Let’s say this same couple had a son in 8th grade who was 6’2, much bigger than the other kids and loved to bully and fight every day. Should the father train him on how to box and get better at fighting, since well, he is going to fight, since “that’s what kids do”? Of course not. Or if he was doing drugs and said he had no intention of stopping, should his parents teach him how to use them and buy them without getting caught? Again, of course not. I hope we can agree that this would not be logical. Just because a child may be inclined to sin, does not mean the parent should enable and help them in it.

          And in this specific instance, a pastor is encouraging sin. The Bible says: “Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.” (Proverbs 22:6). When God gave Moses the law, which made fornication a sin, He said: “And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

          7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.”

          We have no right as Christians to go against God’s Words, because we think we know better. The Pastor seemed to be concerned about diseases. Understandable. But he should be more concerned about the souls of his daughters (who we do not even know if they are born again or not). He completely compromised Biblical commands, which shows a lack of faith on his part. Does he believe the Bible? If so, he would never go on national TV and say “I know what God says about sex, but I also know reality..” which means he is going to disobey God because he thinks he knows better than The Lord. I hope this makes sense.

          Thanks again for your comments. And if you have any disagreement, please feel free to share them. All thoughts here are welcome. God bless.

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  11. Body of Christ please have patience with the cast. Pastor Brian and his wife have an apology interview on YouTube with Lady Charmaine. He claims that the editors did everything in their power to edit and that many of the conversations and their responses were cut and paste. He was appalled at the intent of the producers and urges the body of Christ to be patient. He says him and his wife had no idea that the other cast members felt this way about them and that each cast member had no idea what the other cast members taped (such as the banana scene and the handcuffs). The pastor with the handcuffs said he also gave his wife a t shirt that the show did not show and that that’s what he was referring to when he said wear only this when I get home. Pastor Brian also said that because they agreed to do the show that is why he was fired from the church in Alanta after only 6 weeks. You guys should check it out. He is actually pretty solid in the word. It’s an hour long interview.

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  12. While I saw the show and agree with most all of what you are saying I don’t understand the motivation behind tearing apart brothers and sisters in Christ. They may believe differently than you but the essential beliefs are the same. Jesus is the one and only Son of God. He was crucified, died and rose again. He sacrificed His life for the forgiveness of our sins that we may have everlasting life with Him. Let’s stop throwing stones at other Christians and, as Ephesians 4:2-3 says, be patient with one another and strive to keep unity. We too often forget that we are commanded to love others as as we love ourselves. As Christians I believe that our time and energy should be focused on loving others not tearing them down. As for me, I won’t be watching the show again :)

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    • Hi Jen,

      Thanks for your comments. It’s interesting that you were able to explain the Biblical Gospel in 2 sentences. I ask, since you’ve seen the show, have you heard any of the women share the Gospel? The name of Jesus was mentioned once in the first episode, in an irreverent and Biblically inaccurate way. The Gospel was never even mentioned. And certainly none of the behavior on the show reflected it. So I am curious as to why you say “the essential beliefs are the same?”

      As for why the article was done, it is done out of genuine concern for the church and the unsaved. The Bible prophesied in 2 Thessalonians, the book of Jude, the book of Acts and many other passages that the church would be infiltrated by a false form of Christianity that has the appearance of Godliness but denies the power thereof. Jesus repeatedly warned of “wolves in sheep clothing.” The “sheep clothing” is indicative of someone who appears to be for God. This show is promoting sin and denigrating the name of God. It is highlighting lasciviousness and conversations that pastors should never have in public, much less on national television. And instead of pointing people to Jesus Christ for salvation (again, salvation is not mention on this show), it is directing viewers into confusion or a lack of desire to have any part of Christianity. And thus we are here to warn about this show and let the world know that it is not a reflection of Biblical Christianity.

      I hope that helps to explain our perspective. If you have any further thoughts, please feel free to share them. God bless.

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  13. All these reality shows are pure trash. I don’t watch any of them. It’s getting harder and harder to find something to watch on TV. Such a sad commentary on our society, but totally expected in these end times!

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  14. Hi, I appreciate you’re taking the time to say how you see the show or episodes. I’m sorry that you’re not able to see what really is going on. Like the part that I use a lot of scriptures, have you noticed that they don’t have me quoting one scripture? If I had used scripture would they not have used it to back up their statements? I didn’t even know these women and all they knew was from the beginning I have a love for His Word! They took that a ran with it to make me out to be a fanatic. It’s okay because I will stand for the Word under all pressure and without I will never crumble. I love my family and my life God has given me the best of this world and I’m grateful to show how much I believe Him and desire others to experience Gods best how I look is not to be judge but rather I bear fruit of Christ. I do not flaunt my body. I’m in fitness. I have four kids I beat my body into subjection lest when I preach the gospel I be disqualified. I never disrespect my God nor my husband on this show. God bless you and may you live phenomenally,

    Tara – The Sisterhood

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    • Tara. God bless you and strengthen you in your mission on this show. Stay strong for the Word and for Truth. Do not compromise, and do not let the producers put your body on display, because we know that your physical body does not disqualify your words if they are from the Lord. Your body does not disqualify the Scriptures! In the last day your body will be raised up to perfection, so preach the truth about this material world it’s passing away. Preaching the kingdom, and not only that, preach the coming kingdom.

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  15. AyannaCosta says:

    I saw most of the first episode. As a former christian I find this to be very displeasing for the people of the church. I am aware of false prophets and prophetess and I believe that’s what these people are. I would have like to seen people who embrace the body of Christ and their being human but the gossiping was annoying. I understand you do have people in the church who behave this way but people who have a flock should be held accountable and at a higher standard, how can you lead many when you can’t lead your own house hold. I will not be tuning in to this I would rather watch love and hip hop than this mess.

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  16. Im not surprised because Christians act just like the world does, just another religion. Yah didn’t give us the religion of Christianity, He gave us His word, His laws, and commandments. He didnt say Moses you have to be a Christian to make it to heaven. No you make it to heaven by being obedient to Yah and believing in the Messiah Yahushua. None of the disciples were Christians, so would they have not gone to heaven? Please someone point out in the scriptures where it says only Christians will be saved? And please dont point to the updated Biblical scriptures that have been twisted and changed so many times.

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  17. yahspeople.com hebrewisraelites.org get educated people!

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  18. Child of the Wind John 3:8 says:

    I read the first 2 paragraphs, sampled a bit more on my way down, and it just boggles my mind that Christians watch TV at all. I call it the Babylon Pipeline. Going to Church or a Bible study and then going home and watching TV is kind of like going to the gym, working out for 2 hours and then going to Marie Callenders and eating for 6 or 8 hours. There is a direct connection between TV and ALL of the disturbing issues that we are faced with, both inside and outside the Church; adultery, abortion, divorce, materialism and its Siamese twin, bankruptcy, teen pregnancy, drugs, violence, crime, you name it, it’s all on display in livid color. I emailed Parents Television Council a while back (they campaign for improved content of programming) and informed them that from a TV executive’s standpoint, there is ONE and ONLY ONE reason to put on a television show; to keep the viewer connected between commercials, marketing is what it’s all about, and if the ratings are high, even for moral sewage, the exec and the sponsors are happy. I told them that trying to get programmers to put on better shows is kind of like asking a prostitute to put on a clean dress, she (or he) is still a prostitute. I didn’t get a response. Speaking of whores, when watching TV for a certain amount of time, the ability to critically analyze what you are watching is shut down; I think this explains why a lot of elections turn out the way they do. I haven’t had TV for 16 years, and when I’m at my local diner and the TV is on particular shows, it’s like nails on a blackboard to me, and I often get up, and, if there’s no objection from the other patrons, I’ll turn the sound down or off. Or, I’ll get waaaaay off in a corner. If you want to watch something uplifting without exposing yourself to all the garbage that’s on, I suggest the movie Babette’s Feast, the best Christian movie I’ve ever seen (although it’s not a Christian movie), based on the short story of the same name by Karen Blixen, who was portrayed by Meryl Streep in Out of Africa. Or try The Bitter Tea of General Yen or Chariots of Fire, there are LOTS of good films out there. For further reading try Television and the Hive Mind at mackwhite.com or Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television, by Jerry Mander, and if you want a scathing indictment of the medium (what do mediums do? connect with spiritual entities.) try Television Addiction is no Mere Metaphor from Scientific American Feb. 23, 2002, by Kubey and Csikszentmihalyi, which documents that there is often a valid addiction going on, with withdrawl symptoms that resemble heroin withdrawl when the addictive substance is cut off. Our 3 main enemies are the world, the flesh and the devil, and to invite the world into your living room and corrupt you and your family is a sure way to trouble.

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  19. Rafael Kariz says:

    While I don’t agree with some of the things that this show, and even Mary Mary, showcases – It’s too many Christians hiding behind closed doors trying to make it seem like their lives are Holy and they think that because no one can see them – that they have the right to judge others. What these shows do showcase is that aside from the fact that they are Christians, or even Pastors or first ladies, they are still human. And in response to people quoting the bible as a source of information to judge others – God did NOT write the bible. He did not pull out a pad and paper and pen the bible. It was written by Man going on their interpretation of what “God” has said which brings to point why so many things in the bible are so different from our time in our day and age. It’s so easy to act like our lives are perfect and that we have everything right with God. Truth is – no one really knows. Regardless of what they say or try and make it seem like. Like I said, I may or may not agree 100% with these shows but it’s good to see that these folks, despite their position in Christ, are still human and deal with human issues. Christians need to stop trying to hide behind their front door or the church doors or the bible when they deal with the same exact issues everyone else deals with regardless of their “position” in Christ. That’s exactly why no one is coming to the church.

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  20. RETS:
    Well, BaE, you probably expected that I would have a comment for this, so I’d hate to disappoint you.lol

    I cannot help but agree with you on the majority of this article, but I do disagree, as I have in the past, regarding women as pastors/ministers.

    You state, very emphatically I might add, that:

    I agree.However, you use this statement in conjunction with:

    This is where I disagree; more to the point, I believe your connection between these two quotes to be tenuous at best.

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    If I may engage you in a dialogue on this subject, I’d like to begin by asking you this:

    If we are to take the gender aspect of Titus and 1 Timothy as literal, what shall we do when a woman has a child?Shall she be put out and considered unclean? (Lev. 12:2)

    And, if we are taking the assignment of gender within Titus and 1 Timothy as literal and binding, then is it possible that only a man be guilty of covetousness? (Ex. 20:17, Deut. 5:21)

    With these same understandings regarding binding gender assignment, can we also be of understanding that a woman cannot commit adultery within her heart? (Matt. 5:28)

    Furthermore, if these are binding commands found within Titus and 1 Timothy, then surely all others are binding?For instance, ought we not shave every woman’s head who dares to pray with head uncovered? (1 Cor. 11:5)

    Furthermore, if it is the case that such gender specificity is binding for all time, ought not women also be completely silent?Paul writes that they ought not speak, but he also says they should be silent completely; therefore, do you agree that there ought not be women within choirs, nor testify? (1 Cor. 14:34)

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    You see where the concept of a binding gender assignment can be, at very best, difficult to hold?What’s more, BaE, believing that such a bind exists not only nullifies the doctrine of Christian freedom; it also creates contradiction within the Word of God.

    I look forward to your response.

    Here’s a good article for you to study:
    Are Women Pastors Biblical?
    POSITIONAL/FUNCTIONAL GENDER EQUALITY REFUTED
    http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/WOMENPASTORS.html

    You’re as wrong as a person can be, I’d say you’re even in rebellion to the word.
    I hope you will change your mind after reading the article, wouldn’t want to meet God as a rebel to his word. Also this attack on the Bible is very last days apostasy, looking at the people that are pushing this it’s been solely rebels that wouldn’t recognize God on the street wearing a huge name sign.

    Let me guess you’re in one of these modern churches and read one of those modern bibles?

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  21. Rafael Kariz:
    While I don’t agree with some of the things that this show, and even Mary Mary, showcases – It’s too many Christians hiding behind closed doors trying to make it seem like their lives are Holy and they think that because no one can see them – that they have the right to judge others. What these shows do showcase is that aside from the fact that they are Christians, or even Pastors or first ladies, they are still human. And in response to people quoting the bible as a source of information to judge others – God did NOT write the bible. He did not pull out a pad and paper and pen the bible. It was written by Man going on their interpretation of what “God” has said which brings to point why so many things in the bible are so different from our time in our day and age. It’s so easy to act like our lives are perfect and that we have everything right with God. Truth is – no one really knows. Regardless of what they say or try and make it seem like. Like I said, I may or may not agree 100% with these shows but it’s good to see that these folks, despite their position in Christ, are still human and deal with human issues. Christians need to stop trying to hide behind their front door or the church doors or the bible when they deal with the same exact issues everyone else deals with regardless of their “position” in Christ. That’s exactly why no one is coming to the church.

    God didn’t write the Bible? Dude you’re a blaspheming heretick.
    The Bible refutes you:
    2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    you don’t know what you’re talking about heretick.

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  22. Sweetypie says:

    Hi B&E,
    Have you had a chance to finish the article on the Nephilm gene as I have been looking for it and I am not sure if I have missed it

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  23. Nakisha says:

    All I can say is glory be to God!!!! He is awesome! He has opened my eyes! Thank God for inspiring you!

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