The serpent is being openly promoted on television.
2013 saw a sharp rise in the blatant promotion of the occult, black magic and satanic witchcraft in mainstream pop culture. What was once reserved for late night television or R-rated movies, has now become prime time viewing. No better example of this is seen than in American Horror Story: Coven, the primetime cable series on the F/X Network that has become a runaway ratings success as it openly promotes some of the most violent, depraved and satanic imagery on television. As society continues to move away from God, shun the name of Jesus Christ and reject the Bible, it is swiftly descending into satanic rebellion. And this year’s television season is an indication that the deception of the Devil is now becoming mainstream, especially for young adults and children.
American Horror Story: The Most Satanic Show on Television?
With Baphomet symbols on full display, the show does not hide its spiritual agenda.
From the show’s website:
“American Horror Story: Coven tells the secret history of witches and witchcraft in America. Over three hundred years have passed since the turbulent days of Salem and those who managed to escape are now facing extinction. Mysterious attacks have been escalating against their kind and young girls are being sent away to a special school in New Orleans to learn how to protect themselves. Wrapped up in the turmoil is new arrival, Zoe, who is harboring a terrifying secret of her own. Alarmed by the recent aggression, Fiona, the long-absent Supreme, sweeps back into town, determined to protect the Coven and hell-bent on decimating anyone who gets in her way.” (source).
Coven tells the story of a group of young girls who have been recruited to a witch’s coven with fronts as a prestigious all-girls boarding school. The purpose of the coven is to train the young women to hone their occult powers and skill and protect them from the world which seeks to destroy them. There are various factions of witches who are both for and against the coven and as a result numerous conflicts ensue. The show uses this plot to show some of the most gruesome, violent and blatantly satanic scenes and imagery ever on television. Numerous animals are cut open, bled and burned for witchcraft and voodoo rituals. Eyes are gouged and burned out. Throats are slashed. Witches use telekinesis to smash the heads open of men they do not like (with the shattered skull and brain in full view). In just the first several episodes, American Horror Story: Coven features:
- A teenage witch using her powers to cause a bus accident the leaves the young men on the bus dismembered and dead (with their dismembered bodies and severed heads shown up close).
- A flashback scene focuses on Madame LaLaurie (who is one of the many historical references on the show), a wealthy slave owner, keeping slaves chained in the attic of her mansion where they are tortured. They have the skin peeled from their faces and organs dug out of their bodies with a metal hook. The “Madame” then uses their blood as make up on her face to maintain her youthful look and for an enchantment spell to keep her husband faithful.
Madamae LaLaurie applies blood to her face to cast a spell.
- Two of the witches enact a spell that requires a pledge to Satan in order to resurrect a young man who had inadvertently died in the bus crash. They take his severed limbs and parts from other victims of the crash to reassemble his body (all shown on-screen).
- A mother sexually abuses her injured son in extremely graphic fashion while he is laying in bed.
- A young witch in the coven has sexual relations with an undead human-animal hybrid.
- Zoe, the star of the show, has the ability to kill any man she has intimate relations with as they suffer violent brain aneurysm and their eyes explode in a bloody mess (shown on-screen). She uses this ability, (again shown in graphic fashion) to murder a young man while he is in a coma in the hospital.
All the while the power of the witches and their air of superiority are on full display. The show makes every attempt to show that witches are genetically and intellectually superior to normal human beings and have no need to regard society’s rules. And certainly God has no role or say in anything they do in their lives. Because they are playing “goddess” themselves.”
Promotion of Sinful Rebellion
The young witches use a ouija board to contact the dead.
Throughout the Bible, in particular in the Old Testament, a battle was constantly waged between the spiritual forces under Satan’s leadership, who sought to bring humanity into sinful rebellion and away from God and eternal life in Heaven. The occult was and is a major lure by Satan to seduce people into sin. Trying to access the spiritual realm in any way, apart from God (through prayer to the Lord, saving faith in Christ, etc) is witchcraft and a clear sin. In the book of Deuteronomy, the Bible goes into great detail is describing all the practices that are an “abomination” to The Lord:
When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations. There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch. Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God. – Deuteronomy 18:9-13.
The “Minotaur” character on the show bears a strong resemblance to the Baphomet.
Practicing witchcraft, using tarot cards and speaking with the dead are just some of the sins listed above that are all shown repeatedly on American Horror Show: Coven. The Bible is clear that demonic forces are real. And contacting them is an easy route to not just pull a person into sinful rebellion, but to being possessed by a demon themselves. Spirit beings are far older than human beings and this allows the Devil to use the same tricks over and over again to entice people into trying “magic.” But any temporary power or experience a magic practitioner may have is not worth spending eternity in hell and the Lake of Fire. This is why in the Old Testament law, practicing witchcraft was a capital offense: “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.” (Exodus 22:18). This is how dangerous the practice of witchcraft, Wicca, or any black magic truly is.
Making The Occult Cool
American Horror Story: Coven connects witchcraft to women’s empowerment.
Satan’s fate has already been cast. He will be judged and suffer forever. And now he is seeking to take as many people with him. 1 Peter 5:8 says: “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.” Satan wants to destroy humanity and though he does not have the power to do that outright, he does have limited authority to set up a system of sinful temptation. And pop culture has provided a powerful weapon for the Devil to make the occult, magic and rebellion “cool” and “what’s hot” right now. And to no surprise, young people are tuning into the show in droves. The first two episodes of American Horror Story: Coven were 2 of the top 3 broadcasts in the F/X network’s history. Additionally, it broke the record for any F/X broadcast ever in the highly-coveted 18-34 demographic. Young people are tuning into the show by the millions. Scripture says: “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!” (Isaiah 5:20). Hollywood is bombarding society with darkness and making it fun, exciting and even morally good.
The Supreme, the lead witch, tells her students to wear black when they are outside.
And the more entranced by the occult a person comes, the easier it is to move away from God. In Scripture, King Saul, the first divinely appointed monarch of the nation of ancient Israel, was in constant sin against The Lord. His jealousy towards a young man named David (who would grow up to usurp him as King David) after his defeat of the Nephilim giant Goliath started his descent into evil. He plotted on numerous occasions to kill David, was willing to have his own son killed in his maniacal pursuit, performed divine sacrifices that were only supposed to be done by priests from the tribe of Levi (Saul was from the tribe of Benjamin) and repeatedly disobeyed God’s commands. The prophet Samuel, who served as a spiritual advisor to the king, reprimanded him sharply saying: “For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.” (1 Kings 15:23).
So Scripture is clear that rebelling against God and witchcraft go hand in hand. After God’s Divine protection left him and the prophet Samuel died, Saul, who never repented for his sin, went to see a witch to help him rule his kingdom. It was this action that was the final straw and led to his death in the days following. And this is where coven wants to take its fanbase. The show encourages its many fans to send in their own photos of themselves dressed in black (as the witches in the show are instructed to do by the Supreme, the highest ranking witch). The pictures are then posted on the show’s Facebook page:
Fans of the show show their support for the “United In Black” movement.
A fan photo at the mansion of one of the real life historical characters on the show.
The Meaning of The Number 13
Many of the rituals on the show are based on real witchcraft.
A coven is defined in the dictionary and the occult as a meeting of 13 witches. Why is there such an occult obsession with 13? God created all numbers, but that has not stopped Satan taking what God created and distorting it for his own purposes. And the Bible reveals all the “wiles of the Devil” for the reader to know and be warned. The number thirteen in Scripture is often aligned with spiritual rebellion. In fact the first time the word “rebel” appears in the Bible it is linked to the number: Genesis Chapter 10 describes the wicked Nimrod, the first emperor after the Flood, founder of Babylon and leader of the Tower of Babylon rebellion:
And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech. So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth. – Genesis 11:1-9.
The Tower of Babel was no normal building. It was an attempt to try and reach Heaven and replace God through occult means. And Nimrod was the King as the founder and ruler of Shinar (where the tower was located) was at the center of this effort. Nimrod’s name literally means “let us rebel.” And when you count the generations of humanity from Adam, the first man (the genealogy is provided in Chapter 10 of Genesis), Nimrod is in the 13th generation.
Some may find it odd to count generations of Old Testament patriarchs, but the Bible does it itself. Enoch, a Biblical patriarch who lived in the pre-flood world, was a believer in the Lord and was the first man to never die. Scripture tells us:
And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah: And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. – Genesis 5:21-24.
Enoch was the first “Rapture.” Hebrews 11 confirms this: “By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.” And what is the numerical significance attached to him? We are told in the book of Jude: “ And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,”
So Enoch was a righteous believer, prophet and as raptured for his great faith. And the Bible makes the point of noting that he was in the 7th generation from Adam. Seven is a number repeatedly linked with God’s righteousness in Scripture. So we have a Biblical precedent for looking at the significance of numbers, even in generations. And Nimrod, who was in the 13th generation from Adam was clearly in strong rebellion against The Lord. He was the first conqueror, shedding blood in the post-flood world to establish his empire. He also made the first attempt at global government with the Tower of Babel project (a foreshadow of the Antichrist who will also set up a world government in the end times). His actions were so evil, that The Lord personally intervened and ended them.
One of the many rituals shown on American Horror Story: Coven.
In Genesis chapter 13 we see the first mention of Sodom and Gomorrah, two cities in open spiritual rebellion against The Lord. Genesis 13:13 says: “But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly.”
In Genesis 14, the first use of the world “rebel” is also linked to the number: “Twelve years they served Chedorlaomer, and in the thirteenth year they rebelled.” (Genesis 14:4).
The Antichrist, the satanically-empowered false Messiah who will rule over the Earth for the final 3 ½ years before the Second Coming of Christ, is described in detail in Revelation Chapter 13. And his city of operations, also known as “Mystery Babylon”, has the full name “MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH” (Revelation 17:5), which just happens to be 13 words. While it may seem like coincidence, consider that in the occult there is a major emphasis put on the number 13. To no surprise, real-life witches are celebrating the occult explosion in Hollywood.
Here is an excerpt from an article published in the Huffington Post, from a practicing witch:
“The numerological symbolism [of the year 2013] was obvious of course: 13 moons in a year, 13 fertility cycles, 13 witches in a coven. It’s a number considered unlucky and unlovely for so long, we’ve seemed to have forgotten why, while still obliterating it from our tallest buildings. And so it’s a number inherently bound up in feminine magic, and thus represents a deification of something persecuted; a profanity resacralized, unsullied and crowned.
The archetype of the witch is long overdue for celebration. Daughters, mothers, queens, virgins, wives, et al. derive meaning from their relation to another person. Witches, on the other hand, have power on their own terms. They have agency. They create. They praise. They commune with nature/ Spirit/God/dess/Choose-your-own-semantics, freely, and free of any mediator. But most importantly: they make things happen. The best definition of magic I’ve been able to come up with is “symbolic action with intent” — “action” being the operative word. Witches are midwives to metamorphosis. They are magical women, and they, quite literally, change the world.
Amazingly, though not surprisingly, as soon as I named 2013 the Year of the Witch, I began to see synchronicities and sympathetic signs all around me. This year marks the 40th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, and the 50th anniversary of The Feminine Mystique, two of the past century’s most quake-making reclamations of female power.” (source).
Grossman goes on to praise the new TV shows and movies promoting satanic witchcraft:
“And witch stories are being told all around us this year. Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters, Beautiful Creatures, Oz the Great and Powerful, American Horror Story, Salem, and Witches of East End are just a few films and TV shows with 2013 releases. It’s not that we haven’t had centuries of these stories preceding us, but it seems we are witnessing a witchly tipping point.” (source).
These comments underscore a primary seduction of witchcraft and Wicca: it is seen as women’s empowerment. American Horror Story: Coven goes out of its way to emphasize a “women’s rights” angle to witchcraft. Equality in the workplace, politics and socioeconomic sphere is a valid and noble cause (as women have been historically denied this), but it should not come by being yoked with demonic forces. Jesus Christ said: “For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?” (Matthew 16:26). Many women and young girls alike have been attracted to the occult for its offer of giving power and a means of leveling the playing field in a male-dominated world. However, this is all a lie as the cost of being yoked with the Devil is eternity in hell. Do not be deceived.
The Creators Of American Horror Story: Coven – Against Christianity
Coven creator Ryan Murphy, here receiving an Emmy Award, has used his shows to mock Christianity.
Ryan Murphy is the creator and writer of Coven. And he makes no bones about his stance against Biblical Christianity. We previously covered Murphy’s work as the creator of the hit musical show Glee and “The New Normal”, a sitcom about a gay married couple seeking to adopt a surrogate baby. Both shows have made blasphemous attacks on Christianity in particular The New Normal, whose episode “The Godparent Trap” devoted an entire show to mocking the Christian faith and blaspheming the name of Jesus Christ.
The lone Christian character ends up favoring witchcraft over The Lord.
On American Horror Story, the lone Christian character, a neighbor named Joan Ramsey, is portrayed as an angry, semi-delusional woman who is mean to the ladies of the Coven from the onset and comes to their home clutching a Bible and telling them stay far away from her and her son. And once her son falls into a coma, she quickly abandons her faith and embraces one of the teen witches who has psychic abilities and is able to communicate with her unconscious son. The show in very clear fashion shows the lone Christian character giving up on prayer and her Bible in order to seek help from a witch who she then lovingly embraces and thanks for helping her.
More Witchcraft On The Way
Witches of East End has been a smash hit for the Lifetime Network.
As quoted above by the real life witch, there are indeed a number of occult-related programs debuting or set to debut in the near future. Witches of East End, a Lifetime show, which premiered in 2013, is about 2 sisters who discover in their 20s that they are powerful witches born into a family of witches. For centuries the two women repeatedly die and come back to life, forgetting their past history, as a result of a “curse of fertility” that was put on their mother. Though not as violent or vulgar as Coven, Witches of East End employs a great deal of real witchcraft, incantations and spells. To no surprise, the show has been a ratings success for Lifetime Network, and has been the network’s highest rated show ever in the 18-34 demographic.
The WGN Network is currently producing “Salem” a new TV series set in the 17th century during the time of the Salem witch trials. Like Coven, it uses real, historic witches as its basis. The lead character is Mary Sibley, a key player in the accusations which led to the witch trials, a series of trials and persecutions in Massachusetts in the 17th century that resulted in the execution of 19 alleged witches and one priest. Oz: The Great and Powerful a film released earlier in the year, starred James Franco who has strong connections to Satanism and the occult (as we detailed our article on his video for the song “Love In The Old Days” which features practicing warlocks and satanic rituals). The CBS Network is also planning a remake of the show Charmed.
Tune Out The Year Of The Witch
Actress Emma Roberts, a star on American Horror Story: Coven (and niece of Julia Roberts), off of the set, wearing a shirt promoting the number of the Antichrist.
The Bible is clear that Satan will use any means to deceive and destroy humanity. In the midst of all of this occult promotion, the light of the Gospel still shines. God’s message is clear: no matter how deep a person has fallen into the occult, nature worship, Wicca or any type of mystical practice, they can be forgiven. While Satan wants believers to follow his Antichrist or burn in Hell, the Bible says that God: “…is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.” TV shows like Coven and Witches of East End show powerful, intelligent, attractive women and young ladies who defy death through spells and incantations. All this ignores the truth: we are all going to die. The reason why reincarnation has to be constantly promoted in these programs is so that the viewer does not think about their sin and God’s impending judgment. The Bible says: “it is appointed unto men once to die, and then the judgment.” This life is our only chance to either choose God and eternal life or die in sinful rebellion like the many who have devoted their lives to the occult.
There is a way to eternal life and it does take supernatural power. But that power belongs to Jesus Christ. Christ took on human form to offer Himself, the just dying for the unjust, as a sacrifice to take the punishment we all deserve, not just for the occult, but for lying, stealing, blaspheming God’s name, racism, sexual sin and all the other ways we have violated God’s law. Jesus Christ chose to suffer on the cross and endure God’s wrath so that we would not. And it does not take any action on our part to receive this blessing of forgiveness. It just takes a humble heart to recognize our own sin and faith to believe in God’s way of restoring us.
Satan be like, join the dark side. People be like, okay.
Josh(Quote)
True dat.
Papa Legba(Quote)
For the first time in ages I’m lost for words, I felt a chill go down my spine just looking at those pictures.
My heart go’s out to the youth of today, they are targeted from every angle. If it’s not immorality it’s through music, it’s through alcohol and it’s through drugs.
then if they decide they’ll stay home and chill with friends their enticed by the occult..Satan has left no stone un-turned, he offers temporary quick fix’s which all come with a heavy price, not always straight away, but it will bite you in the butt when you least expect it.
The bible says the devil walks around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour, he’s now making it openly obvious as to who runs the world. People need to wake up and notice the rapid changes to ward darkness which is taking place. Now is the time to seek truth and don’t just except things at face value, because the creators of these movies are definitely working for the dark side, and we want to make sure that we do not have the mark of the beast upon the Messiahs return.
Venice(Quote)
Here’s the thing, though: This is clearly a show for adults, not for youth. If your children are watching this show then you have nobody to blame but yourself as their parent. I firmly believe that children only grow up to be as good or bad as their parents raised them to be, and the worst parents are the ones who blame the media for their own failure.
J(Quote)
Hi J,
Thanks for your comments. But adults are also susceptible to satanic spiritual influence. And frankly there really isn’t an appropriate age to watch graphic depictions of child molestation. Satan is determined to deceive people of all ages for one reason: to ensure they will not worship God and believe the Gospel. So while I understand your argument about parenting -it is really an ancillary issue that deflects from the real problem – the battle for our souls and the increasing blatant satanic, anti-Christian influence in society. And AHS is a perfect example.
Beginning and End(Quote)
I watch this show but I know the difference between real and pretending. I am well aware of Spiritual Warfare in this world and I know that to call on dark forces is a very bad thing. Remember back in the 70’s, we had “The Exorcist” and “Damian”. That scared the dickens out of me. This show is set in my home state of Louisiana. I remember listening to that old song about Marie LaVeau.
Rhonda(Quote)
Watching this satanic garbage is supporting it, and opening yourself to demonic oppression, and if you don’t know Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, you may be opening your spirit to demonic possession.
Sheryl(Quote)
If you support this show by watching it regularly you are essentially “voting” for Hollywood to continue producing and releasing more garbage just like it. I have Christian friends who watch this show, and I cannot for the life of me fathom how they don’t immediately have bells and whistles going off in their spirits about it. It is so blatantly Satanic, but I guess that just shows how desensitized we’ve become as a society.
caligurl(Quote)
May be thy are not Christians and not following the creater of all things….YHWH
Truth Seeker(Quote)
The show is for the mature strong-minded for sure. Not the young an gullible. The show is over now and I have no desire to go to Barnes & Noble and purchase any witch craft books. If I were to cast a spell on someone and it happened, that would scare the dickens out of me. Because I know that it’s not really my power but the power of Lucifer and his minions instead. The biggest power of all is up above and that can be achieved through prayer in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Rhonda(Quote)
Rhonda, I’m totally with you. I watch anything that takes my fancy, I am adult enough to know fantasy from truth and I also have no desire in practising witchcraft, reading books or anything else. I have no demons that fight me for my faith, I am strong willed and a powerful person thanks to the power that believing in Jesus Christ and the Lord gives me. If you didn’t watch TV, there are enough sinful activities around our cities to make what’s shown on TV to be rather tame. Live your life clean, enjoy but don’t falter from your faith and the Lord won’t look down on you. It’s hard to remember that most of the disciples had severe sins, breaking a large majority of the 10 Commandments and laws of Moses, but Jesus allowed them to see the light and change their ways. Every sinful person on TV and away from the media circle could have an epiphany and change tomorrow. I had shunned all religion for decades, I was an atheist and blasphemer, on one night last Summer, I went to bed as normal and woke up a fully fledged Christian with knowledge of scripture that I did not have when I went to bed. I am sure that living your life in the modern world but clinging tightly to your faith will not tarnish you when the time comes.
Incy(Quote)
Deny yourself, watch anything that takes Gods fancy,not your own. you grieve the Ruach with your words and unwillingness to separate yourself completely form this world. This show should grieve your spirit as it does the Ruach, you are telling on yourself and don’t know it. Wake up, this show is evil take no part in it. I wake up to angels singing and am attacked or tormented by demons as night, I have experienced so many dif spritual beings and experiences, I know my God and my enemy well, he is tricking you having you think “I’m strong enough to watch this show” that is human reasoning it has no place in the supernatural, you will find out the hard way not to entertain demons, if you choose not to heed the warnings from Yeshua and His servants. “A rebuke is oil on a righteous mans head”. Wake up dear. God sees your love for Him via your obedience.
Ze(Quote)
Dear, your words tell on you, you have no idea of what spritual warfare entails if you are willing to entertain the demons at work through these deceived, blind souls on this show. You are literally entertaining the on -goings of demons, opening doors to them in all areas of your life, including their ability to distort reality (I watch this show but…) is them distorting reality and you bit the bait. “Touch no unclean thing and I will receive you”. -Yeshua. There is no time for dabbling with the on goings of the world or satan, wake up dear or you will find yourself as shocked as the masses on judgement day. Deny yourself, seek Christ in everything, you are creating an unwelcoming environment to the Ruach by letting this stuff in your home. Wake up.
Ze(Quote)
…and your words tell on you . A self-righteous Pharisee that knows nothing about my heart. I resent you calling the Holy Spirit by that word “Ruach.” I can call on the Holy Spirit anytime I want to by praying. Thank God, it is not people like you who decides who goes to heaven and who doesn’t. Jesus came for the humbled sinner, not Pharisees! Do you get that word “HUMBLED”. It means “HUMILITY”!
Rhonda(Quote)
Hi Rhonda,
Thanks for your comments. I see that you and Ze are at odds. What I see missing in this discussion is Bible Scripture. So what do the Scriptures say on a discussion like this?
If we are going to sit and watch a show so full of overt satanic messages, witchcraft, bestiality, child molestation and extreme gruesome violence and think it is not affecting us, the Bible says otherwise. American Horror Story is an open celebration of all things satanic. It’s hard to think that it would not qualify as “Evil communication.” Just something to consider. God bless.
Beginning and End(Quote)
Don’t be surprised crap like this is airing on TV. According to what The Word states about the End Times, this is a logical progression of things to come. Back around 2002 or 2003, I had a dream, one nite, that a group of mainstream actresses were on TV encourage the worship of cats, in an infomercial format. Also, the “Left Behind” novels feature a scene where a Messianic rabbi is attempting to access news on TV, and winds up scrolling across several channels featuring all sorts of televised evil; i.e.: beheadings of Christians, rapes, witchcraft, etc. I believe stuff like that is just around the corner. Fellow Christian brothers & sisters, stay strong & keep praying -the Return of our Lord is also just around the corner.
Michael(Quote)
Micheal mt brother had a dream around that year as well. He dreamed that tge ground opened up and new spirits demons was released in the air. People are ignorant to the fact that luciferians has said they have people in places that will work on making tge occult the “new age” and squash christianity. They moght have done something to also release these spirits around thar time. People are ignorant to support it or say i know not to take part in what i am watching. It plats to your subconciense mind. Nazis worked on doing this to tge mind and some came over to america with project paperclip and they also helped companies create commercials to sell their product to the public they knew psychologically how to control the publics mind.
Lisa King(Quote)
You guys are too funny. Ironically, I was just looking up Nephilian because I find them interesting; now I have a new show to watch!
Honestly, why can’t religious people just accept that they don’t know what is going to happen after death. Telling me you do because a bunch of people wrote a book about it is basically giving license to anything anyone has ever written and then claimed is true.
Also, there have been NUMEROUS societies that have claimed their religious saviour had to be born from a virgin, and was sacrificed for our sins. It’s nothing new.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FiHRVb_uE0
Faith isn’t necessary to be happy and healthy. If you have to have the threat of punishment to behave like a decent human being, then you’re not a good person. Period. I don’t do bad things – not because of fear of divine retribution, but because I wouldn’t want someone to do it to me. I don’t worry about the next life or what happens after death. I’m okay knowing, I don’t know.
Donedin(Quote)
Donedin,
I’m sorry to tell you that you have not done enough research. The first coming of Jesus was prophesied all the way back in Genesis, Psalms, Isaiah – just to name a few – thousands of years before his actual arrival. Unique events like how he would be born, how we would die, again were all foretold hundreds to thousands of years earlier by ,in your words ,”a bunch of people”. The statistical probably of 100+ specific prophecies that Jesus fulfilled is beyond astronomical. It was compared to filling the entire state of texas 3 ft high of quarters, you jumping out of an airplane and find the the gold on the first shot. That makes the bible very credible. It tells us what happens when we die. You can choose to believe it or not.
BradS(Quote)
Donedin jist fell for the Helen Blavasky Alice Bailey theory from lucis trust aka lucifers trust. They use truth and mix it in with lies also they use what evil Constatine did so You are blinded. You dont know the whole story. Constatine was a sunworshipper his populace was half that and christian. He mixed his pagan holidays names etc which was a very evil thing to do. Some think of him as tge antchrist for deceving and causing tge great deception that Lucifer uses…they use this to discredit God all togetger by mixing. I always remmbered God creates Licifer can only copy. Tge fallen came down and gave knowledge for people to worship them they copied i beleove that Egyptians were one of them. The AHA coven even calls oit to the actual fallens names these are not just entertainment this was used to indocternate like they said they woild do and you are suppeting their agenda. Saturday is the sabbath not SUNday. He was mot born in december or died in december christmas is not chritians its pagan and so is the aay we worship easter thqt was from constatine.look up the book fossilized customs. I recommend everyone and people that say well i dont put a tree up to be pagan blah blah well thats what it stands for it actially a big penis in ykur living room that why they hang balls on it and the wreath is the womb. Its all pagan fertility.
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And when i say their agenda i am not meaning jusy ahs i mean the luciferians said that they have people in places to create this the occult will be the “new age” and christianity will be squashed. This whole Aleister Crowley bs. Places like media government schools entertainment music. The 70s was when they really started it in the music and movies i thought the music in the 70s was the worst but its even worse now.
Lisa King(Quote)
Within the broad group of religious people you mention, I will assume you are including people who seek and live for Yeshua/Christ.
Dear, we don’t claim to know what happens in the afterlife, we claim that God knows and is warning people of the realities of the afterlife through us who have sought Him out and know Him. You would be a fool to believe any man about a hell he can’t throw you into or a heaven he doesn’t have the key to, you would be more of a fool not to listen to the God who warns you about a hell He can throw you into and a heaven He can lock you out of.
We “religious ppl” are not saying we know anything about the afterlife, we are saying we know God, by seeking him in the way He says He can be found and have been told the truth from Him, in other words we are saying God knows about the afterlife and you should listen to Him.
Ze(Quote)
What’s more is there is so much error in everything you said, there is no such thing as a Christian who became such based of fear of hell, doesn’t work that way. Salvation (living for Christ) comes by seeking Him, confessing and believing that He is who He says He is as a result of your seeking him, being in dwelt by His Ruach as a result of the aforementioned, witnessing the amazing changes that come as a result of the Ruach I dwelling you and experiencing God as He reveals Himself to you as a result of the aforementioned. There are many impostors in every type of religious organization Christianity is no exception, anyone who says they believe in Christ because they don’t want to go to hell. Does not believe in Christ has not experienced Christ and is an imposter. yes there are many of them, Christ warned us this would be the case. Salvation is not about escaping hell, it is about encountering and living for your maker as a result of seeking to know Him.
Ze(Quote)
What’s more is there is so much error in everything you said, there is no such thing as a Christian who became such based of fear of hell, doesn’t work that way. Salvation (living for Christ) comes by seeking Him, confessing and believing that He is who He says He is as a result of your seeking him, being in dwelt by His Ruach as a result of the aforementioned, witnessing the amazing changes that come as a result of the Ruach I dwelling you and experiencing God as He reveals Himself to you as a result of the aforementioned. There are many impostors in every type of religious organization Christianity is no exception, anyone who says they believe in Christ because they don’t want to go to hell. Does not believe in Christ has not experienced Christ and is an imposter. yes there are many of them, Christ warned us this would be the case. Salvation is not about escaping hell, it is about encountering and living for your maker as a result of seeking to know Him.
Ze(Quote)
Great topic. Full of opinions not based on any actual logical facts as promoted by the scientific community, logical theory production, independent researchers and surveys and logical fallacies abound. I got to admit the christian community is doing a great job keeping us entertained with their attempts to promote some type of thought out explanation and than expect the people to actually jump on board. Or maybe I’m just a heretic because I prefer to use actual research that is unbiased and held by other experts when making a statement.
brothernoctis(Quote)
I have to take back my previous statement. I am talking to people who rely on faith and belief to promote their ideals. Talking here is like talking to a deaf person who can not read lips.
brothernoctis(Quote)
God forbid you talk to someone who doesn’t blindly believe everything you say.
Josh(Quote)
I meant they not you.
Papa Legba(Quote)
Science hasn’t proved that things that happened in Biblical times haven’t happened. Just because Creationists believe that the world is only 6000 years old, people mock the whole of Christianity. There is more to the Bible than just Genesis. If Science can prove that God doesn’t exist and none of what is in the Bible didn’t happen, then I will leave it there. Until then, people should have an open mind and believe what was written by people many thousand years ago.
Incy(Quote)
So because science hasn’t disproved the theory of Christianity, we should blindly believe everything that people thousands o years ago wrote down in a book? I agree that we should keep an open mind but I will not allow my decisions and opinions to be swayed by ancient text.
Clem(Quote)
Religious beliefs aside, everything we know about history is literally a bunch of events someone decided to write down. Without hieroglyphics we would have almost no understanding of ancient Egyptian culture. How would we know how large the Roman empire was if there was no record of it? Even as recently as the civil war, if that knowledge wasn’t passed down it would be impossible for someone today to know about it at all because all the people who experienced it are now dead. I’m not trying to sway opinions, I’m merely pointing out that it makes no sense to say that you don’t trust writing from people 2000 years ago when, in fact, you do it everyday. There are countless events throughout history that we believe happened that can’t be proved or disproved based on anything other than written record, but we accept them as truth because we decide to trust the author.
Mm(Quote)
Christianity 101… We do not try to prove the supernatural with the natural, you cannot un-convince us of the supernatural by evidences’ in the natural. We do not believe in Christ because of history, science, or any earthly ongoing, we experience the supernatural God supernaturally, therefore the arguments that are based off the understandings of the natural have no weight with us. We are talking about God here, there is no earthly explanation. If you don’t believe this stuff is evil, that’s fine. The God you don’t believe in has communicated to us that it is evil, therefore we believe God over man. Seek the supernatural God supernaturally and then revise your statements.
Ze(Quote)
Can science explain the origin behind such twisted thinking and demonic ideas? Why do these film makers take bits of the bible and use what’s taught as bad for good? Why the increase and fascination in the occult can science really answer these things?
Venice(Quote)
Argument from ignorance and a straw man.
Josh(Quote)
Empty words of shallowness
Venice(Quote)
It’s called a logical fallacy.
Josh(Quote)
Spiritual illiteracy
Venice(Quote)
Hi B&E, Once again, a very informative article on the social infiltration of the occult through the entertainment media. Since this article forefronts witchcarft and the occult in general, I was wanting to try to get your opinion on an issue that I think could possibly belong in this same catergory. I am referring to the practice of magic (or illusions) for entertainment – think David Copperfiled, Doug Henning, David Blaine, Steve Cohen, Penn & Teller (who are also self-proclaimed atheists), ect. It’s my understanding that most modern “magicians” prefer to be referred to as “illusionists” and I would assume that they are trying to distance theirselves from the Merlin the Magician stereotype and want common viewers to think of their “tricks” as simply illusions with a perfectly logical explanation (of which they closely guard the “secret” to). The Old Testament seems to have plenty to say against sorcery (which I would assume to be magic) and seems to lump it into the same catergory as witchcraft, talking to the dead and such. In Exodus 7:11, after Aaron and Moses had cast down a wooden staff that turned into a snake through Divine power, Pharoah called for “his wise men and the sorcerers, and they also, the magicians of Egypt, did the same with their SECRET ARTS”. So it would seem that Pharoah’s magicians replicating this Divinely inspired supernatural feat were a direct challenge to the Divine authority of GOD. Also, they continued to to replicate the first two plagues through their “magic” (water to blood and the frog infestation) until they ran into a “brick wall” when trying to dupicate the third “dust-to-gnats” plague and had to admit to the Pharoah that they were licked and that this was truly “the finger of God” (Ex. 8:19) And of course there are numerous passages in the Law that forbid any kind of dabbing with the occult and the practice of magic seems to be included in this general catergory.
Anyway, I was wondering what your take on modern illusionist entertainment was? To me, some of what I now see seems to be far more than just “slight -of-hand” and seems that there very well could be a dark satanic presence behind some of the effects. I’ve watched a couple of episodes of that new A&E show “Don’t Trust Andy Mayne” and the so-called illusions that he pulls off are just down right scarey to me! At one time I enjoyed dabbling in a little slight-of-hand magic but in light of your articles on the occult and from my continuing studying of the Bible, I’m now led to simply stay away from practicing any of this and to maybe not even watch it on TV any more. Looking forward to your response.
Dave R(Quote)
I’m not sure where illusionists fall in all of this. I’ve heard arguments by pastors for both ends of the argument. One argued that illusionists use trickery to deceive the senses of their audiences, and it is, therefore, witchcraft. The other argument I’ve heard is that these illusionists are using “slight-of-hand” to fool audiences for entertainment & will often reveal their secrets to them. I suspect illusion may play a role in deceiving the Human Race during the Tribulation -to what degree I have no idea. Additionally, it’s been revealed on other websites (& maybe even this one) that magicians (some, but not all) have been tapping into “occult powers” for their “tricks”. I recently saw one on TV where Cris Angel appeared to have severed a pigeon’s head (blood spilling & everything), and, then, reattach the head with nothing in his hands. And the bird appeared to wake up.
Michael(Quote)
Sorry to burst your bubble but I am a witch have been for 20 years we witches do not believe in satan we do not do sacrifices. Our number one rule and law is DO NO HARM. Witchcraft is based on respect of nature and all living things. Some of us grow our own food, we go to work everyday, pay taxes drive the kids to school and many of us are working as volunteers in our communities. Please stop this protrayal that promotes false ideas. We also believe in a Supreme Power which is neither man or woman we represent this power by a male /female god we do not worship them, they just represent the SUPREME POWER some call it God but christian made him a man because according to them women are evil. We do not believe this. So why not make a serie about what we really are but then again it would be boring . Another thing we do not have powers, nor do we ride broomsticks but it would be fun if we could. Imagine the nice trips we could make for free ! So bless each and everyone of you.
Christine(Quote)
Hi Christine,
Thanks for your comments. However I have to respectfully disagree. In witchcraft there is what is called the Right handed path and the Left Handed Path. The Left Handed path or Black magic involves the summoning of demons, animal sacrifice, blood consumption and certainly involves Satan. Practitioners like Aleister Crowley openly referenced satan. Eliphas Levi wrote about summoning demons. In Mexico (brujeria) and the carribrean (obeah), the use of magic to harm someone is taught. So in short, you’re assertion is incorrect.
Secondly, it is the TV American Horror Story that is portraying witches as violent, perverse and aatanic. Why aren’t you taking issue with the show? This article is relaying what those producers chose to put on air. So shouldn’t your disagreement be aimed at them?
What is made clear in the article is that the Bible clearly states that witchcraft is a grave sin. And dying in your sin means eternity in hell. But thankfully, God also offers free forgiveness if all sins- something we all need. Hence the Bible saying: “whosoever shall call upon the name of The Lord shall be saved.” – Romans 10:13.
Are you not concerned about your soul? What by your beliefs, will happen to you when you die?
Beginning and End(Quote)
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you’ve described Wicca, not that there’s anything wrong with Wicca as a spiritual practice. Witchcraft is a secular art, practiced by people of various religions (some having none at all). There are, in fact, Satanist Witches, and there are witches who do harm unto others (not mutually exclusive, I might add). Also, Satanism can be worshipping Satan or simply holding the ideal that what you do mundanely is more important than worshipping any Deity.
As for the Christians, I very much believe Jesus had some good things to say, like love other people, “let he who is without sin cast the first stone,” et cetera, et cetera. The problem is that you can’t make everyone live by the same moral code, and we have to live by what is empiracally proven or testable. Accept that not everyone believes what you believe and don’t judge them for it. I don’t judge you for believing in the divinity of Christ (though I judge those of you who blindly judge others without getting to know them first. Rude.), so don’t judge me for practicing Witchcraft. I don’t do anything to hurt others, mostly, just spells of healing, protection, and guidance, and I’ve never seen a negative consequence.
All in all, not everyone is bad, so get to know someone before you judge.
Have a great day, everyone!
That-Gay-Witch-Kid(Quote)
That’s all fine and dandy, but when you look into the history of “Wicca”, it’s origins, and practices you really see the hidden, dark strings underneath.
Gerald Gardner, the so-called founder of modern day Wicca derived most of his teachings and practices from Aleister Crowley and Anton LaVey. Who are these individuals? Both of these individuals are pretty big in Satanism and other black magic lore. LaVey in particular being the founder of the Church of Satan. They did indeed worship Satan as an individual. “An it harm none, do what thou will”. Sound familiar? Do what thou wilt is a term coined by Crowley.
You might say “Sure, there’s that aspect, but Wicca has been around for many centuries and pre-dates Christianity”. Wicca itself has not. That is a modern day creation arising from the culmination of other religions based in paganism. You know, those tree-worshipping and child sacrificing varieties.
I’m not in any way trying to hate on you, or “judge” you. I too was once a “wiccan”. I started out with supposedly white magic, but it never stays that way. You are eventually called over to perform the darker aspects of it. Because of my practices, a coven was knocking at my door.
I love you, and I hope the Lord opens your eyes to see what a farce and a lie it is. Jesus Christ came into my life and filled that hole in my heart that I tried to stuff with my witchcraft and spells. There is nothing too big in your life that He can’t overcome if you only simply ask.
Former “Wiccan”(Quote)
we are not promoting witches and evil. These shows are, B&E is wisely warning people of the evil of these shows. I personally understand from the Ruach that witches are evil if only based of their unrepentant hearts, their refusal to seek their God and maker to be made Holy and the fact that all men are evil minus the blood of Christ covering them. However in this post. B&E is showing what evils the world associates with witches not the Christians.
Ze(Quote)
It is a Tv show. They are not telling young children to go out and kill and betray this Divinity that you speak of. It is rated M for mature for a reason. I can for a fact say that I am mature enough to realize the difference between reality and the abstract when it comes to this show. I promise you satan has not devoured my soul, yet. It is a show, calm yourselves and do stop judging.
Bystander(Quote)
Stop judging? Why?
Lionel Farwell(Quote)
Matthew 7:1-2
Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
Incy(Quote)
Dear, The Ruach is where the word Holy Spirit comes from, it means breath of God or Gods Spirit it is the Hebrew ( original) form of His name, so far as not being humble? I’m not sure what you are referring to? I love you and all the works of His hands more than you know, I tell people the truth b/c I love them, I simply told you the truth in that post, I’m not sure why that makes me not humble but if you feel that way,ok. Still though you are in rebellion to Yeshua when you entertain satan which is just the truth, it applies to me you and everyone, the point in the post was that you have been deceived ( which is a spiritual warfare tactic Satan uses) to think that entertaining evil will not grieve and quench The Ruach. If these post mean I’m not humble, I don’t know what to say? A day is coming when people will long for someone to be loving enough to tell then them the truth. Truth hurts but the truth will set you free.
Ze(Quote)
The post are filled with scripture, just not directly, everything said comes from scripture. It must be considered that this person believes they are a strong Christian, so they (should ) know scripture and that my words were only the truth based on scripture, the harsh reply says everything. There is something very wrong with a Christian who sees no problem with entertaining pure evil and cannot except a straight forward and honest rebuke there is something very wrong with that. Im not at odds with Rhonda, I only have love for her otherwise I wouldn’t care to share the truth with her. YHWH has had this dear soul (Rohnda) on my heart since this conversation, so many people are deceived about salvation not realizing that their fruit is indeed showing everything in their heart, I am praying for this young ladies genuine salvation. So many people are deceived so many forget the road is narrow.
Ze(Quote)
We are witnessing an onslaught of darkness in its vilest forms being perpetrated on mankind in astonishing frequency. I believe this is no accident. I believe we are fast approaching the end of the end time. Perhaps, we’re already in it. It’s not something that Satan is ignoring. he is well aware his time is limited and he is going to great lengths to unleash all of his destructive influences into every arena he can to create maximum souls being lost. he will not hesitate for a nanosecond to deceive the “lukewarms” either. He prefers to make them an example. But, the good news is that almighty GOD himself is about to pour out of the holy spirit not just a revival……………. but he is going to mount an army of those who are completely “sold out” to him. There will be a cleansing of the church and those who have built kingdoms unto themselves will find themselves brought to nothing if they don’t listen to the voice of GOD and repent. That will include “very well known pastors & evangelists. be not shaken when you see these things for it is all part of the purification process. What is left will take the WAR right into the enemies camp and we SHALL be victorious and steal back what souls have not been totally lost. The last great harvest is here ans upon us. I implore all those who truly want to let GOD rise up in their lives and do signs and wonders………….draw to the father as if you are utterly desperate for his touch and fellowship. For those who do this………you will be protected and blessed beyond measure. This is going to be a GLORIOUS time to be in the kingdom. For where sin abounds (it’s everywhere) grace abound even more. Leave the comfort of your church pew and ask GOD to fill you with a fire to reach the lost that will NEVER go out. Wasn’t planning on saying any of this but the words just kept flying off the keyboard. Not even sure what I originally wanted to say about all this satanic stuff……..other than marvel not, for these are the last days.
jj(Quote)
I saw an episode of this show. AHS is sick and twisted. I regret even watching one episode. Keep your heart guarded and pray that the Lord Jesus will come quickly!
Heather(Quote)
Okay – if you’re go a write information about the show at least state all the facts. There is a reason why the which played by Emma Roberts killed all those boys are the bus, they raped her and filmed it on their cellphones and gave her a date rape drug. The girl named Zoe on the shoe kills the guy in the hospital because he was one of the rapist , if fact he was the ring leader. Also you forgot to mentio that the christian woman was guilty of committing murder twice. She killed her husband and her own son so of course she deserved to die. Also madame lalaurie, marie lavaeu , and one of the young witches and the supreme at the end of the season are in hell.
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Hi ChildofRa,
Thanks for your comment. With all due respect, I think you are misunderstanding the purpose of the article. I have no concern for the subplot of the show and individual character decisions. The point being made is the ultra violent and graphic sexual scenes on this show. Similarly with the murder in the hospital. The point was that the scene was one of the most perverse and disgusting displays on TV.
Your comment in fact underscores what Satan’s goal is – to make everyone comfortable with sinful rebellion. It is all about shifting the paradigm in society from Biblical to Luciferian. And that requires being desensitized to violence and sexual perversion while also embracing the occult. The simple fact that you are overlooking how gross this show is to defend the fictional characters shows how far society is moving.
My hope with the article is to wake people up to the indoctrination that is taking place. The Bible, in its first reference to Satan calls him “subtle.” And this is just the example of the subtle ways in which Satan can win over hearts and minds. There is a war taking place and humanity is the prize. Do not be deceived.
How to Get to Heaven
https://beginningandend.com/how-to-get-to-heaven/
Beginning and End(Quote)
I understand the gore and violence in this show, but for the character Madame Lalaurie was a real woman and for most people to understand the harshness and cruelty of some people a visual needs to be shown. The bible has freaking violence in it yet christianns promote people to read it. Jesus was crucified -thats a violent act. God destroyed the world among other things. So those are acts of violence. So mankind has always been exposed to violence that is nothing new gore on the other hand is newin terms of what is shown in films and tv but in terms of kids the show is rated m for mature for a reason,no one under the age of 17 is allowed to watch. If a child or teen does watch this is the fault of the parents. Their are those chip things to block shows that parents dont want their kids to see.
As for the whole god vs satan deal -its a freaking crappy one. Either I do bad and my soul goes to hell or I do good I go to heaven. Either way im a slave to someone who holds power over me and wants my soul as payment
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Hi Childofra,
Thanks for your comments. I would like to respond to a couple of points you make:
1) The bible has violence – Yes, there is violence in the Bible. And I am not against any mention of violence in society. The point the article makes is that AHS glorifies violence and sadism. It is violence for the purpose of exciting and entertaining you. Not educating you or explaining salvation to save your soul. There is a big difference.
2) The Show is Rated M – I believe that once again you are missing the point – the show’s content is not appropriate for any age. Do you think 17 years old is an “appropriate age” to watch a depiction of a mother molesting her son?? That is not an age issue. It’s always wrong. But shows like AHS want to lower the moral bar so low and move us so far from Biblical values that scenes like that will actually be defended (which is precisely what you are doing).
3) Your view of Christianity –
You wrote:
You are actually not that far off in your description. At present, you indeed are a slave to your sin and by extension, Satan. But what you are leaving is your own volition. You choose to sin. YOu choose to lie. You choose to hurt others. You choose to have evil thoughts or steal, fornicate, or do whatever evil sins that you do. Satan cannot make you sin. He only provides the means to do it. But it’s your choice. So for all your protest, you seem quite comfortable with the arrangement.
Conversely, God will not force you to believe. It is also your choice to reject God and His Word. Where you are wrong is saying that you have to “do good” to go to Heaven. That is incorrect. You only have to believe – it takes no action on your part. It takes no good deed, pilgrimage or ritual. Satan always wants payment because he does not love anyone. He operates like a harlot – who you have to pay to receive something from. God gives us to us even though we do not deserve it. Even though we deserve eternal hellfire for our sins, God chose to forgive us freely by sending Jesus to die for us. Jesus did not come to Earth and say “I’m the Master, bow before me.” He took on human form, was humble and served humanity. He lowered Himself helped people, preaching to show people the way to Eternal life, which is through Him. And yes, many rejected Him. And now you are doing the same. Why? Because you want to be free? Of course not. Because by that logic, you would not follow any rules. Whether it be from the police, school, your boss, paying taxes or any of the numerous requirement society imposes on us. You submit to those so clearly, being a slave is not the real issue. The real issue is YOUR SIN. You do not want to acknowledge it or give it up. This is what Jesus made clear:
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You know you are in sin and you do not want to be held accountable. So the idea of one day being judge by God is repulsive to you. This is why you are trying to justify watching a sick, vile show like AHS, which is clearly promoting Satan and the occult. And I know this well because I was once the exact same way. Loving the darkness and hating the light which is God’s Word. But that attitude is a deception of the Devil. It’s merely a trick to get us to reject The Lord and any chance of forgiveness and eternal life. The Bible says God is “not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.” Do not let pride and hard-heartedness get in the way. Read the Bible, pray to God. Ask for understanding and His mercy to know His Word. And believe upon The Lord Jesus Christ.
As I said before, your description was right in many ways. And I am glad you are aware that your soul is at stake. I hope and pray that you do not lose it.
How To Get to Heaven
https://beginningandend.com/how-to-get-to-heaven/
Beginning and End(Quote)
1. Entertainment is meant to entertain me. I dont listen to Beyonce and expect her to sing a song that has so deep spirtual meaning. So thats what this show does is to entertain not educate becuase marie and lalaurie historical facts have liberties taken with them.
2. The ratings are there for a reason M stands for mature and at 17 years of age certain depictions of crime a person to should have the mental compatcity to understand the mental & physical of the various crimes that are usually depicted in tvs or films with this rating or the r rating. A child cant understand that a person has a mental or some sort of history of past abuse that would cause them to commit a crime.
3. Sin is defined as to miss the mark or in or to violate Gods will. So what exactly is gods will? also im not a christian nor do I consider myself a sinner. Everyone has faults & I am by no means perfect. Actually no one is perfect and this whole sin concept is very effy. Like what are considered sins? I know there are the 7 deadly sins
4. I do not defend satan or the occult but I do have a mind of my own and read things for myself because when research anything one has to be careful of personal bias influencing their work. Satan is the opposite of god – the idea of good and evil which exist in all cultures and religions. The names are the only thing that is different. As for the occult lots of it is evil and half of it is not. What I have learned about the occult and any religion itself is that it isnt evil what makes it evil is the people who used it for their own greed and personal gain. Example the great witch hunts of europe that would be an example of mankind using god to justify the killing of innocent men and women burning them at the stake and for what to place the fear of god into those who did not believe or those who were of a different faith. I’ve known people who were of the occult and were good hearted people with good morals more than ive seen the average christian. I have friends from all religious faith and my christian friends arent perfect but there are open-minded and do not judge people because they to have made mistakes
ChildofRa(Quote)
HI ChildofRa,
Thanks again for your response. I will stick with the numbered order we have going on:
1. Beyonce is not glorifying violence or singing about her desire to molest her own children in graphic detail. Now if she was doing that and you said you loved that kind of music, then your analogy would apply. I am simply stating that AHS is a sick, vile show and is using those types of scenes to excited you and seduce you to watching more. That is a far cry from the Bible’s historical record of violence.
2. You did not answer my question. If you think 17 is an appropriate age to watch molestation scenes, then I will just have to respectfully disagree with you. And I would caution you to think about what you’re saying. AHS Coven went out of its way to “move the bar” on gore, perversion and deviance. All in the name of watching some cool watches have adventures. And for the love of the overall story, millions are willing to have their consciences seared by the extreme violence and perversion of the show.
3. And here is where the rubber truly hits the road in our discussion. I outlines clear sins from the BIble and made the presumptive but obvious assertion that you have committed them. And notice your response. Rather than take responsibility and be accountable for the sins you have willingly chosen to commit, you try to morph this into a debate about “what is the definition of sin?” This is the pride of sinful humanity. You know you are a sinner and in order to evade guilt, you try to glory in the loophole you have found to clear your conscience. All of this is a vain effort. I don’t have to define sin. You know you are a liar. You know you have stolen. You know you have blasphemed God’s name and harbored all manner of evil thoughts. All this done thousands upon thousands of times in your life. But do you see how hard it is to admit it? This is why I posted Jesus’ Words that men hate the light and prefer the darkness. Because we all want to hide our sin. But in your heart you know the truth. And this is why you reject God and suppress the truth, lest you feel the rightful shame about your sins.
4. Please do not get into stereotyping. There are belief systems and cultures which do not have a concept of “God and the Devil.” There are religions that don’t acknowledge evil. But all this is besides the point. Notice that you close by talking about “judging people.” Again, this is the root of the problem here. You want to sin, but don’t want anyone to judge you for it. I am not here to judge you. I am here to proclaim to you that God has judged you. Bringing up “witch hunts” and other faiths are all attempts to further suppress the truth. You are trying to assert that you know more than this God of the Bible and somehow indict and judge Him, rather than have yourself be judged. I would submit this is the height of human arrogance. This is the result of our fallen, sinful nature which is naturally inclined against God. Hence our slavery to sin.
Until you are willing to address your own sin. And your own depravity. And your own evil ways, your heart will not be open to God’s Word. Other religions may let you overlook it – Christianity does not. And Jesus Christ gave His life so you could live. Rather than judge God and all Christians, why not give His Word and a chance and get to know Him with an open mind?
Beginning and End(Quote)
1. Beyonce may not talk about violence but she does talk about sex which in itself in 5he manner she speaks of is lust but thats for another topic.
2. At 17 years of age one should be mentally mature enough to handle the truth about the world. Whether its good or bad but this current generation is so sugar coated about real tradgedies that its ridiculous.
3. I always take for responsibility for my actions hence im not perfect. Everyone at some point in their life has lied – im not the only one. As for the other sins you have list that would be a no for me.
4. Im not stereotyping but stating what I have observed and read on my own. Also how is bring up historical facts about how mankind has twisted religion for its own selfish needs supressing truth. God cqn judge me all he wants and I will gladly take the route my soul is destined to go.
ChildofRa(Quote)
Lmao oh your god… oh your god. You christians have nothing better to do with your lives, do you?
atheist(Quote)
Spot on , Bro! 😉
J Smith(Quote)
…..just REPEL yourself, it’s simply a form of entertainment. As for children watching this, blame it on the household, or COMMUNICATE with them so that they know the severity of the context. Entertainment isn’t always going to be about your beliefs, that’s why we have the option to CHOOSE what we want to watch.
Dee(Quote)
Once upon a time I would have watched this show and loved to get the creeps. But after becoming a Christian I have slowly moved away. It took years to wean myself off the addiction of horror and terror. Today it makes me sick to,watch anything violent. I have seen the first 3 seasons of Homeland, but season .4 is impossible to watch. After 3 episodes I finally gave up and told God to take away whatever remaining desire I have for worldly tv shows. The filthy language, blasphemy and twisted characters are inspired by satan I am sure.
I am convinced the Holy Spirit finds most mainstream tv shows utterly repugnant because there is nothing Godly about them. There is nothing in them that will make you a better person. If someone is claiming to,love God but spends hours watching this filth, they lie. I know because the Holy Spirit made me realise this and stop. This kind of stuff fills you with darkness.
Now I watch shows like Masterpiece classics, of graceful people centuries ago who went to church and didn’t use the F word every 2 seconds. I never feel the conviction of God after watching shows like The Paradise or Jane Austen series. They teach us good manners and social graces.
I still slip up – the urge to,watch Homeland is still there, but I am firm. No more. I will not be a victim of someone’s perverted imagination.
Sujata(Quote)
Hi Sujata,
I praise God for your testimony. It is all a testmanet to the Spirit of God working in you as you grow in the knowledge of The Lord. The feelings you have towards once-favorite forms of entertainment are something I can definitely relate to as I was once immersed in ultra-violent entertainment myself (especially in my choice of music). And now songs once I loved I cannot even bear listening to. This was not an automatic change. It took place as I grew closer to The Lord Jesus Christ in prayer, Bible study and ministry in a Bible-believing church. We have to simply give God space in our lives and let His power work in us. I have prayed for you that you will continue to seek entertainment that is not blasphemous or sin-honoring and that God increases your faith and discernment. You (and I) will slip up, err and sin, but God’s Spirit will be there to bring us back to The Lord in sorrowful repentance over that sin. God bless you abundantly.
Beginning and End(Quote)
Well I wouldn’t have my witchcraft any other way than satanic. You simple minds, lol. Always so terrified even of a little TV show. So simple minded that you can’t think for yourselves and believe that you can get sucked into the darkside just by watching. The only tomfoolery I fear is your weak minds. You are all a joke.
James Llamozas(Quote)
First of all, this show doesn’t air at prime time, it airs at 10 pm. Kids should be in bed by that time. If not, it’s up to the parents to use discretion for what they allow their children to view. There is a very clear disclaimer at the start of the show, and after every commercial break.
Secondly, this is a horror show. Hence American HORROR Story. It is designed to be scary and violent. And,judging from the content of your bible, christians shouldn’t be complaning about extreme violence. Considering all of the horror stories which are described throughout the bible. Like children being ripped apart by a bear for disobeying their parents. Or, women being stoned to death for rape. And, these are the things your bible promotes. Slavery is ok, beating your wife is ok, raping women is ok, since it is the fault of the woman and not the rapist. Just don’t question the Lord.
It’s pretty narcissistic of you to insult all witches, and accuse them all of being evil devil worshipers, when that is the furthest from the truth. Real witches are peaceful, respectful people. They worship nature, not the “devil.” Every pagan I personally know doesn’t even believe in devils.
I will end with this. If the so called illuminati really does exist, they are nothing more than extremely wealthy and powerful people. Also, if they exist, what makes you so sure they don’t control the most dangerous thing of all, religions?
Shirley(Quote)
You all need to grow up. This show highlights terrible things true but that is the point of the show it does not promote the things that happen in it. It shows you how terrible some people are as it says, “all monsters are human” that’s very true. Just because horrible things happen in it does not mean that they are say “why don’t you go out and worship the devil, or why don’t you go sacrifice a chicken for the voodoo queen.” People take things way too literally and for their sake I hope they twist the words of shows like this on purpose because if not they really some of the most ignorant people I have ever met. Saying a show like this promotes murder or satanic worship is a farce. In conclusion, if your mind is so easily swayed into doing the things you see on tv like seeing two female girls perform a satanic ritual or occult ritual you probably don’t need to be watching tv or speaking with anyone because an idiot like you will be manipulated and tricked many times in life.
Rayce(Quote)
People need to realize that it is 2014.
Rayce(Quote)
Being Gay is not a choice and saying that Jessica Lange and Ryan Murphy are evil makes this article look even more ridiculous. I am Gay and a Christian. What about the bible verse that says “Thou shalt not judge” that one gets skipped over a lot apparently. If you believe what this article says whoever you may be you are very weak minded.
Rayce(Quote)
I agree with Rayce….. A sin is a sin not saying being gay is a sin but so is murder so a murder and a gay person are gonna be looked at the same
HollieBerry(Quote)
These comments are almost as entertaining as watching the show itself. Until reading this, I never fully understood to what extent some people rely on an archaic book to do their thinking for them. Thank God (pun intended) that you people are a dying breed, because the last time fanatic Christians had control over the population, humanity was forced into the Dark Ages.
Shannon(Quote)
—- you.
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angela(Quote)
i am very interested in voodo and witchcraft and i do believe in the holy bible
angela(Quote)
Who are you to say what is mocking and what is not…this is not the burning times anymore we have freedom of religion. We don’t go door to door trying to make you change your faith and sell you religion nor do we have mega churches that do not pay taxes nor do we have priest in our religions commuting heinous crimes. Do you see us with websites saying that your religion is wrong come join us. Your adults I think you can tell what is fiction and what is not..well I hope so we don’t want you to think the death star is real and the light and dark from Star Wars. And thank the gods you people are not allowed to travel in mobs with torches and pitch forks anymore
bornwitch(Quote)
As I read some of these comments all I can do is shake my head. All the so called Christians passing judgment on others for watching a television show. Really??? Sorry my fellow Christians but I’m going to burst your holier than thou bubble. Now take a good look at yourselves and think. How many of you pay taxes. Those taxes that you pay support the war machine. Have you ever seen the innocent children that are blown to bits by those bombs you pay for. You are supporting evil satanic activity in the highest degree. When you sit down with a full belly and watch your Christian television shows on your huge high def screen with over priced cable service think about all the people in the world that are starving to death. Do you think God approves? And what was that about casting the first stone? But wait!! You’re saved. Right? So every thing is OK. You better think twice. God doesn’t care about that Christian label that you put on yourself. It goes much deeper than that.
Mike(Quote)
This article does nothing but makes me so happy we have freedom of religion for those of us who are smart enough to know Christianity/the bible is a myth. Madison (Emma Roberts) flipped the bus because most of those boys drugged and raped her. They recorded it, and would not have been punished for it. I’d have done the same thing.
Stop pushing your bull crap religion on people by writing against a show that is imaginative and well written. It’s called American HORROR Story, it’s pretty obvious what it’s about. Don’t like it? Don’t watch it; simple as that.
Crap like this is exactly why I’ve been pushed far away from this religion. Science for the win.
Calley(Quote)
Science for the win? Hmm, “science” still cannot give a factual account for the origin of life or of the universe. “Pseudo-science”, as I like to refer to it, is quite LONG in theories of origins (which so happen to violate other well established scientific laws – 1st and 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, just for starters) , but extremely SHORT on any viable explanation for a true causality of this universe and for life itself. Of course, if one doesn’t fancy the current theories of origins, no worries, as they’ll almost certainly have morphed into something quite different and maybe even unrecognizable, by today’s standards, within a decade or so. With over five decades of this thing called life under my belt, I have personally witnessed the fickle and dynamic nature of the most “up-to-date science” over and over, firsthand. Sorry, but it takes far more faith to believe in man’s constantly changing “edjumacated guess” theories, in regards to origins, than it does to just accept God’s unchanging Word!
David R(Quote)
Mike, you are one of the few on here I can agree with. People like some of the ones here are a big part of the reason I turned away from Christianity, and now I don’t believe. But you? You have my utmost respect for the way you handled this.
Calley(Quote)
You obviously have no clue about how science works. Of course it always changes. It has to change. When new evidence of something is presented, you have to go back to the drawing board and start over. And just because science hasn’t yet discovered the exact origins of the universe and life, that does not automatically prove that there is a god. And also, where exactly is the evidence that God exists? And by evidence, I mean not the bible. A fictional book doesn’t prove anything. If that were the case, then marvel comics would be the evidence for the existence of spiderman. I mean scientific, peer reviewed evidence for a god?
Ruby(Quote)
So is stating that “everything came from nothing, with absolutely no definable cause” real science? Is that also nothing more than a mere “fairy tale”, since there is absolutely NO way to substantiate that? You have your pseudo-science “fairy tale” and I have my belief in what God told us.
But please do tell, if you found a smart phone smack dab in the middle of the Sahara Desert, would it be more logical to assume that it just came about by totally “random and unguided naturalistic processes” or to assume that there must have been a presence of intelligence (like humans) at some time in the past, even though you may not have personally witnessed (other) humans actually being there? It has been said that you could take a single strand of DNA from every single life form that now exist on earth, and that ever HAS existed on earth, and ALL of this DNA would handily fit inside of a teaspoon, with room to spare! So since we observe the building block of life, DNA, to be far more complex and information dense, by several orders of magnitude, than the most state of the art computer chips of 2015, is it not also logical to assume an Intelligent Designer behind it, whether or not you fancy the account of God in Genesis, even though you may not have any perceivable interaction with this said Designer via your five senses?
David R(Quote)
I do believe in the existence of the illuminati. I don’t, however, believe that it is anything more than extremely rich and powerful humans. I don’t believe there is anything supernatural about it. And in fact, I think religion of all things, is the most controlled by them. What better way to get people to do what you want, then to distribute different “holy” books, and make people believe in fairy tales? Out of everything else, I am most skeptical of religions.
Ruby(Quote)
But, you see, the difference between the big bang and “god” is that, the big bang has mounds of scientific data to support it. You haven’t answered my question either, where is the data in support of “god?” Did god come from nothing? Looks like you haven’t thought that one through.
Ruby(Quote)
I don’t think you understand what the big bang theory is. Here’s a link so you can familiarize yourself with it. It involves math and physics, so it is indeed real science. Just because you don’t understand it doesn’t make it wrong. But, the neat thing about science is that it’s verifiable, so you can easily see the data for yourself. You can’t say that about your God hypothesis.
http://m.space.com/25126-big-bang-theory.html
Ruby(Quote)
And,you are also describing evolution in your comment there. That is true about DNA, and there is data relating to that as well. And, again, I will state that just because science doesn’t currently have the technology to know the exact origins of life and the universe,that does not prove the existence of any god. Science currently knows all of what it can know, and once there is evidence to advance our knowledge, theories will be updated. You see, science us nothing more than a tool that we use to understand the natural world. There is nothing supernatural about it. And that is why it is science, and not ‘pseudoscience.’ Pseudoscience relates to things that do not currently have sufficient evidence to support it. Things like paranormal research, despite individuals trying to put together data, if it isn’t peer reviewed, with actual data using the scientific method, it isn’t real science. Hence “supernatural” and not natural. You can go ahead and do a Google search, and see if I’m right. If you find any actual evidence in support of anything supernatural, then by all means, post it here.
Ruby(Quote)
well as for me i believe there is a heaven an a hell and on halloween the dead walks among the living
angela(Quote)
I BELIVE IN HEAVEN AN HELL AND ON HALLOWEEN THE DEAD WALKS AMONG THE LIVING
angela(Quote)
I meant to quote the comment from David, and not my own. I didn’t have time to read and comment about the whole comment all at once. It’s a busy Monday morning, my apologies.
Ruby(Quote)
David, what you are describing is evolution. There is plenty of scientific data on the big bang as well as evolution. It is not hard to find this data. The big bang is science, it involves math and physics. If you had a strong enough telescope, you could see the remnants of it with your own eyes. Nobody has made the claim that the big bang came from nothing. It came from a very hot and dense point. There is plenty of available information on it, I certainly don’t feel like explaining it all to you. Do a Google search and familiarize yourself. And also, you keep mentioning ‘pseudoscience’ which the big bang is not. The big bang has gone through the scientific method, which is why it is called a theory. A theory in science is not the same as what most people consider what a theory is.
The definition of scientific theory is
“A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.”
I’d like to add that gravity is also a scientific theory. You obviously know that it exists. I suggest you learn what science is, and understand that it is a tool, and not a belief. Pseudo-science, by the way, relates to things that do not have sufficient scientific evidence, and cannot be considered science. Everything science MUST go through the scientific method. The big bang, and evolution have. Just because you don’t understand it doesn’t mean it isn’t science.
Ruby(Quote)
So, just who, pray tell, was around 13.7 billion years ago to “verify” this Big Bang as a factual event? I’d sure like to meet such an individual. Oh yea, that would be GOD, wouldn’t it? I HAVE already met Him and have invited Him into my life as Lord and Savior and He’s not so much with a “billions of years old universe”. Just saying. But even if we assume the Big bang as credible, then where did that epitome of matter and energy, the “very hot dense point” come from? The very well established Second Law of Thermodynamics states that matter and energy can neither be created, nor destroyed, so the Big Bang still falls woefully short of explaining the origin of this “very hot and dense” prototype of matter and energy! Also, how do we know that the laws of physics that we observe today have been perfectly salient for “13.7 billion years” just because they have appear to be for the last few centuries? That, in itself, is a mighty BIG assumption (with absolutely no way to verify minus a time machine) and there are just WAY too many ASSUMPTIONS involved in the secular theories of origins for there to be ANY degree of certainty that these theories are a valid explanation of how “we got here” anymore than anyone’s purely fabricated imagination. And, at the end of the day, there is still that nagging question of “So where did THAT (“very hot and dense point, or whatever) come from”?
I do NOT deny “evolution”, in the MICRO scale. As a prime example, there are literally hundreds of different breeds of domesticated dogs and cats, and they are all either in the canine or feline family, respectively, but there is NO evidence to suggest that these two separate groups of animals ever shared a common ancestor (MACRO-evolution), only a common Creator! A favorite ruse of the evolutionary biologists is to point to examples of MICRO-evolution, which is readily observable, and try to use that as evidence for MACRO-evolution, for which there is NO observational evidence! Of course, the average citizen John Q Public is not science/biology savvy enough to catch the semantics gymnastics that the secular biologists engage in to prop up their false macro-evolution theory, so that is how the secularists are able to pass off their false ideologies as “settled science”.
Gravity is a theory whose overwhelming evidence is readily observable and REPEATABLE. This is NOT the case for any of the main stream scientific theories for origins and it is really an “apples to oranges” comparison to try to equate the “theory” of gravity with the evolutionary theories of universal and biological origins.
Try hard as you want, you just cannot get away from the fact that there had to be a “creation” at some point in the past and by the very definition of the word “creation”, there absolutely must also have been a “CREATOR” as well!
David R(Quote)
I have a very simple question to you. Who, or what created the “creator?” Did he simply come from nothing? And if so, how is that possible, and WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE? Hard evidence dude, not the bible, and not a “feeling.” Hard, scientific evidence, using the scientific method. Answer my question, please. I’m sure you’re avoiding it, because there’s no answer to that, is there?
Ruby(Quote)
Wow! Was all of your philosophically atheistic “tough talk” supposed to scare me off? LOL. I’ll tell you what, sweetie – I’ll address your new questions, but first, I have a few questions of my own for you. Ready? Ok, let’s go!
First off, what ever gave you the impression that it was my “Christian duty” to try convince you that “there is a God”? I must have missed that memo, LOL. I can, however, offer you a reasonable and succinct explanation of why the vast majority of you and your fellow atheists declare that they do not believe in a “God”. It should be obvious to most any unbiased and neutral observer of average intelligence that the atheistic viewpoint is based more upon what the self-proclaimed atheists’ DESIRE or WISH (of no God) to be true than upon objective REALITY! Most atheist (and I would guess that you would fall into this category) are also self-proclaimed hedonists and realize that their self-centered choice of a carnal appetite driven lifestyle does not comport too well with Judeo-Christian moral codes and values and therefore, they must sooth their innermost conscience by vehemently denying any form of ACCOUNTABILITY to a morally superior Being. (Of course, the concept of morality itself is totally asinine, when viewed through the lens of a godless vacuum). Atheists are simply applying the mantra of Joseph Goebbels to their own mindset – “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.” If you choose to sooth your conscience by “deceiving yourself”, that’s your business and I have no control over what you choose to believe (or not believe). However, as with any other choice, there are also accompanying consequences that result from your choice and although you CAN control your choice, you CANNOT control the resultant consequences of your choice once you have made and acted upon your choice. I personally find the “consequences” of ignoring, or disbelieving in God, to be FAR too high, in light of the alternative! BUT if you are SO absolutely convinced that there is no consequential “God” to mess up all of your hedonistic “fun”, then why are you trolling in Christian based blog spots, trying to pick arguments with Christian believers, whom you are fully aware share an ideology that is diametrically opposed to your own? That’s not so “live and let live, now is it? Are you trying to convince TRUE Christians that “there is no God” (VERY hard to do), or are you just trying to convince YOURSELF of the same (NOT hard to do)??? Some true soul-searching for the TRUE source of your “atheism” would be in line.
But let’s dig a little further shall we? Am I to assume that ANY concept that you cannot grasp via your personal understanding is automatically discarded by you as “non-existent”? Are you a strict philosophical materialist – one who believes that there is absolutely NOTHING beyond the observable physical universe? If that is so, that would actually paint your worldview as quite shortsighted, even from a secular scientific viewpoint. So do you believe in the possible existence of other/alternate universes? If you accept this as a “possibility”, then you have violated your own philosophical “rule”. Do you accept the reality of consciousness, information, or logic? Sorry, but that does not conform to materialism, either, as even though these are concepts that are universally accepted as factual and reality based, there is absolutely NO physical dimension to them. Do you believe that even a small minority percentage of paranormal activity may have some basis in fact? While I would personally probably call BS on >90% of the “sightings” of UFOs, ghosts, big foot, ect., the sheer volume of the remaining <10% that appear to be very well documented, often by very credible and multiple witnesses, renders the total dismissal of the possible factual basis of all of these "events" rather inane. No, I cannot explain the more credible reports of paranormal activity, but I also do not totally dismiss their possible reality by default, either.
Are you still with me? If you knew anything about the teachings of the Bible, you would also know that the attributes of God do NOT, at all, render Him vulnerable to be "placed under the microscope" of human understanding and scrutiny. First of all, God is a Spirit (John 4:24), He is timeless (Hebrews 13:8, John 8:58), He is sinless or omnibenevolent (II Corinthians 5:21), and omnipotent (Rev 19:6). Since time itself is a part of the observable physical universe and God transcends all aspects of His creation, that means that God has no beginning. No, I cannot grasp that with my understanding, either, but that's irrelevant. There are many, many things that I cannot understand or explain, but that does not make these things non-existent by default.
In closing, where you go from here in your quest for "truth" is totally up to you. Like I said, it is NOT my job to "convince" you of God's existence. However, you should consider the fact that you were born with a "moral compass" and in a world of a godless existence and "molecules-to-man" evolution, this renders the existence of a moral compass rather ludicrous. Think about that.
David R(Quote)
And also, you don’t seem to understand that science can measure how long ago a cosmic event happened, through math and physics. As I said, a strong enough telescope can see where the big bang happened. Of course they don’t have all the answers yet. They don’t have the technology yet. They’re not going to make up answers just to satisfy beliefs. Science is only a tool. And, I personally don’t care what anyone’s beliefs are, so long as they don’t try forcing it on me. Believe what you want, I seriously DON’T care. But, you’re not going to convince me that any god exists. I was raised by christians, and they couldn’t convince me. You won’t either.
Ruby(Quote)
And yet, the “strong enough” telescope, as you describe it, like the Hubble variety, strangely shows no “Big Bang”. I’ve attached a link to some multiple images courtesy of the Hubble telescope. “I” cannot find anything in any of those images that reminisce of the so-called “Big Bang”. But please, review them yourself and inform us as to the ones that offer undeniable “proof” of the Big Bang:
http://hubblesite.org/gallery/album/the_universe/hubble_ultra_deep_field/
David R(Quote)
You know what? I’m done arguing with you about this. I don’t care if you want to hold on to primitive beliefs. The only reason I found this lame article, is because I watch American Horror Story, and still do. It’s a great show, and I’m adult enough to distinguish real life from fiction. In all forms.
Ruby(Quote)
Ah, run away, like a poor, scared little atheist, when compelled to actually think for yourself instead of being spoonfed what to think by your Marxist masters of politically correct thought. Sorry to upset your little hedonistic comfort zone, but you’d better hope that your that ideology is CORRECT when the grim reaper comes looking for you. Good luck with that (CA– USE YOU’RE GONNA NEED IT)! Bye now.
David R(Quote)
Oh haha, actually no, I’m not running away. I responded twice more after the comment you replied to, in response to your hubble link. I also don’t give in to Christian guilt. When I die, my body will just rot in the ground, and I won’t have the consciousness to know anything. Because I’ll be dead. My brain will no longer have the functions to process anything. But nice try. Have fun with your fairy tale afterlife.
Ruby(Quote)
I actually wrote a moderate lengthed response to your question about “Where did the creator come from?” that B&E is still in the process of “moderating”, so you probably haven’t had a chance to review it yet. Standby for it to finally get moderated and released, if you’re really interested in my response. Otherwise, ciao.
PS: I hate to break it to you, but a humanly fabricated diagram of a bell-shaped time frame of the universe hardly qualifies as a photo image of the “Big Bang”.
David R(Quote)
I actually said several times that the only reason I am here, is because I styled upon it in a Google search for american horror story. And, since I read the hogwash, and had a look in the comments, to see you bash actual science, and claiming it to be pseudoscience, I felt compelled (as a science enthusiast) to correct you. I actually haven’t applied the label “atheist” in describing myself, but if we are to be technical, I guess that I am one. I don’t believe in a god. And whether or not that personally offends you, I really don’t care.
If it weren’t for science, humans would not have the advantage to do, or have, most modern things. The exploration of space, is of particular interest to me. I think at this point, since our conversation has gone no where, it would be best to put an end to it. Agree to disagree. At least that is what I will be doing. I have unsubsidized to any further responses. Responding to this comment is not necessary.
I would like to add, that I have not once attempted to tell anyone not to believe what they want. In fact, I know I said that I don’t care. When people force it on to others, by making blogs on popular television, so that it shows up in Google searches, and then accusing people to be “evil” for watching it, and bashing other religions (paganism) is sort of forcing your religion on others. By the way, I respect pagans.
Well, that’s all from me. I suspect you will reply with your usual rubbish, but I won’t be notified, so it doesn’t matter.
Bye now!
Ruby(Quote)
Just to correct my own *autocorrect* mistakes in my own post.
*stumbled* (not syled)
*unsubscribed* (not unsubsidized)
Ruby(Quote)
And, there you go. It wasn’t hard to find. Believe it or not, I don’t care. Maybe there’s an image of “god” there that I’m not seeing? Take what you want from it. Bye now.
http://m.space.com/13219-photos-big-bang-early-universe-history.html
Ruby(Quote)
And, I’m sorry, but just one more. From the link you provided, I found a full explanation on the photos you were having trouble with. You just have to click around to find stuff. That’s ok, I’llama link it. Here you go, you just have to read a bit.
http://hubblesite.org/hubble_discoveries/breakthroughs/cosmology
Ruby(Quote)
But thank you for entertaining me with the comparison of the universe with a cell phone. I got a good laugh out of that.
Ruby(Quote)
After reading this article I sincerely f eel compelled to answer: re: the lone “Christian” on this program, Mrs. Ramsey, not only did she abuse her child, but she used the bible to do it. She also killed her husband.. that doesn’t sound very Christian to me. She killed her husband because she was angry that he was leaving her.
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To start off I am a Christian and have a bit to say about this article. I have watched the show, probably to your disappointment. If you are strong in your faith and mind (like me), how can a show like this harm you. You fundamentalists try and hide yourself away from anything you feel is against God. In a world like this, you simply cannot do that. When you watch a horror movie or a show like this, some magical process doesn’t happen that makes you want to join the occult or turn away from God. It doesn’t work like that. If after watching Coven, you feel the need to harm people, then there is a problem. After watching it I haven’t turned from Christ or stopped going to Church. Neither have I bought books on witchcraft or tried casting spells. You fundamentalists use the same arguments about other things such as Harry Potter. You mention children at the beginning of the post, but this show isn’t designed for kids. It is a show for adults and if kids are watching it, its probably due to parents having no control over what their young children watch. It has an 18 rating here in the UK and probably a similar sort of one in the US.
First off you mention about the bus that got flipped. The way you talk, you make out like the people on there were innocents murdered at the hands of some witch. What you fail to mention is that those guys committed a really nasty act. Sexually assaulting the woman and trying to film it.
Secondly you refer to Joan Ramsey as being the lone Christian character in the show. She isn’t. If you had bothered to watch the show properly, you would know that she has a son who is also a Christian. The way Joan behaves to other human beings including her own family is absolutely disgusting. Showing no love for other fellow sinners, abusing her son, murdering and killing her own son and husband. Yet you never find faults with her.
I also never see you once condemn the actions of Misty’s family who burn her because of who she is. Is it the witches that are evil I wonder, or are there worse people in the show who have nothing to do with witchcraft.
Finally the Bible does condemn sorcery, taking part in it that does. It doesn’t say not to read about it or watch tv about it. Reading/watching something is not the same thing as taking part in it. If you simply do not like a show like AHS or anything else for the matter, do not watch it.
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Hi Hannah,
Thanks for your comments. I would like respond to the best of my ability. I will just put your words in quotes.
The Bible says that faith comes from reading the Bible: “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” (Romans 10:17). Do you spend more time in a given week studying the Bible or watching your favorite TV shows? I ask this question because you seem to be implying that the Bible does not command Christians to avoid satanic influence:
How do you interpret this Scriptures? The Bible tells us repeatedly not to have “fellowship” with the wickedness of this world. Fellowship means companionship or spending time. AHS Coven is the probably the most satanic show ever made on television. It is blatant promotion of the “unfruitful works of darkness.”
And I disagree that in this world we just can’t avoid sin-filled entertainment. I am sure there are lots of sinful entertainment that you know about but do not participate in, watch, enjoy, etc. So you do self-regulate based on what you find objectionable. The point this article is making is that our own personal feelings should not be the standard – God’s Word should be.
33 Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners. 34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame. – 1 Corinthians 15:33-34.
The Bible refutes your points. The Bible says that evil communications do indeed corrupt us. By your logic, a Christian could go to x-rated clubs every night, watch all manners of violent deviant entertainment and listen to the most vile, profanity-laced music and it would have no effect. Of course it would. We are still in our sinful flesh that seeks to sin constantly. Placing ourselves in the midst of temptation is letting out flesh lead us. And exposing ourselves to satanic-promoting entertainment of course corrupts us. This show graphically depicts child molestation, a woman who drains blood from her slaves (including the blood of babies) to then brush on her face as makeup. It promotes all manner of witchcraft and blasphemes God. And yet you are upset that a Christian would take offense to this. Consider that in light of the Scriptures above.
Verse 34 also raises a very important point. In your comments I saw no mention of the influence this show would have on the unsaved. Many, many people who are into the occult say they were first inspired and intrigued through a movie or TV show (like Harry Potter). To think these programs do not entice or spark curiosity is in accurate, with all due respect. The bible tells us otherwise.
Other posters have mentioned the fact that several of the young men on the bus assaulted the young woman before she used satanic witchcraft to kill them and everyone else in the vehicle. I am aware of that. The purpose of this article was not to review the moral decisions of its respective characters. Its purpose was to expose the extreme satanic nature of the show overall. As for your last paragraph, I would like to share a passage from Acts chapter 19 that again, I believe, shows that your reasoning is not line with Biblical doctrine:
In this passage, Paul spent years preaching in a city where many people would not believe. And once an exorcism went awry and a demon acknowledged Paul, the people of Ephesus realized he truly was an Apostle of God. And they started to believe all the preaching and disputing he was doing as he daily defended the Word of God. So what was holding them back? They were steeped in the occult. And what did they do with their books on witchcraft, sorcery etc.? They burned them. The Bible concludes the account by saying the Word of God “grew mightily and prevailed” right after this.
Are you debating and disputing for the kingdom of God or for the things of this world? You started your comment by citing that you were strong in the faith. Them what do you think about the people of Ephesus burning any books related to witchcraft? Was their faith strong or were they crazed fundamentalists. Where does your position as you have stated it, place you in this account?
My sincere hope and prayer is that you not take my word as guidance but look at the passages I quoted here and go to The Lord in prayer. Let the Bible be the final authority in this discussion. This ministry has never said Christians should not watch or enjoy secular entertainment. These things have to be considered on an individual basis. But a show like Coven, which so goes out of its way to promote satanic behavior to the extreme, (and was created by a director who has previously blasphemed The Lord in his other shows), I feel Christians have every right to “reprove” it as the Bible commands.
I welcome any further comments or questions you may have. God bless. -B&E
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America Horror Story is one of my favorite shows of all time it’s fantastically portrayed by amazing actors and actresses. I love the empowering message it sends. I don’t think this article is accurate as many of The negative comments are actually about the story’s antagonists not the protagonists. However I hadn’t heard they were going to remake charmed that’s awesome!
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