Like many Christian celebrities, Carrie Underwood is happy to speak out against the Bible.
Following in a star-studded line that includes Miley Cyrus, Katy Perry, Beyonce and Justin Bieber, country music mega-star Carrie Underwood, who professes to be a Christian, spoke out in support of gay marriage and called the idea that homosexuality is a sin in the Bible “hate”. Underwood also said that it is her Christian faith that led her to this conclusion as she and her husband, pro hockey pleyer Mike Fisher, attend a “gay-friendly” church that does not view homosexuality as a sin. Once again, Hollywood has proven that just because someone claims to be a Christian, makes a song about Jesus or wears a cross (or five diamond studded cross, in some cases) does not make them a Bible-believing Christian. Underwood’s interview not only shows she is not in line with the Bible, it appears she does not know much about Christianity at all.
In advance of her tour of the UK, Underwood sat down for an interview with the UK Independent. When the subject of gay marriage came up, Underwood made her feelings clear:
“As a married person myself, I don’t know what it’s like to be told I can’t marry somebody I love, and want to marry,” she said. “I can’t imagine how that must feel. I definitely think we should all have the right to love, and love publicly, the people that we want to love.”
She said, however, that her liberal attitude towards same-sex marriage comes because of her Christian values, rather than in spite of them. Though raised a Baptist, a church that tends to oppose homosexuality, Underwood and her husband Mike Fisher, a professional ice-hockey player, now worship in a non-denominational congregation.
“Our church is gay friendly,” she said. “Above all, God wanted us to love others. It’s not about setting rules, or [saying] ‘everyone has to be like me’. No. We’re all different. That’s what makes us special. We have to love each other and get on with each other. It’s not up to me to judge anybody.” In the interview, she condemned “people who use the Bible for hate”, adding: “That’s not how I would want myself as a Christian to be represented.” (source)
Notice that Underwood does not even attempt to quote scripture when explaining her position or her “Christian values.” And her statements that are supposedly ‘Christian’ do not have Biblical basis:
“Above all, God wanted us to love others”
Above all, God wants all people to go to Heaven. And that comes through salvation in Jesus Christ who had to come because of our sin. God wants all people to be reconciled to Him and back in His family eternally. But it is our sin that has caused the separation, death and destruction of society today. God who is morally perfect and just, cannot allow sin to be part of his Holy Kingdom. That is why Jesus came to Earth. To die and offer Himself as a sacrifice to atone for the sins of all people. But if we do not acknowledge our sin, then we do not believe in a need for a Savior. So it is not loving to pretend someone the sin of someone in your church is no sin at all. In fact, it is the opposite of loving them in God’s eyes, because it is keeping them from the Gospel. And as a Christian, first and foremost we are to share the Gospel. Jesus said:
For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. – John 6:38-40
“It’s not about setting rules, or [saying] ‘everyone has to be like me’.
God has provided rules for society to operate in a righteous manner. What is Underwood suggesting? Should a 45-year-old man be able to marry a 5-year-old girl? The “rules” that were set were to keep us from sinning and show us how we have fallen short of God’s standards and that we need a Savior. Once one becomes a born again Christian, that person does not have to be good because of fear of going to hell, but obeys God because of love for God and His holy law. Christians should want to follow the rules. Psalm 1 says:
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away. Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
Christians should not tell other people to “be like me!” We as Christians are all sinners too. The only difference is that we have a Savior. And that is who everyone is to be like. Christianity is about letting go of one’s old self and “putting on the mind of Christ” – that is being like Jesus in the way He lived, which was in obedience to God’s laws. Jesus said: “If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me (Matthew 16:24). All Christians will face challenges of personal sins in their lives. And the task is to yield to the Spirit of God in them and deny those sinful desires. Whether one is gay or straight, the challenge is the same. Being a Christian is not about us – it’s all about Jesus Christ.
Does Carrie Underwood really want to give Jesus control?
“We have to love each other and get on with each other. It’s not up to me to judge anybody.”
The Bible: I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. — Romans 12:1-2
I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. — Galatians 1:6-10
The Bible is clear that the world is corrupted and sinful. Jesus Christ defined marriage saying “And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.” So it is no surprise that the world has gone against Godly instruction. Christians are indeed supposed to be loving but are not to “fit in” with the corrupted, God-rejecting ways of society. By trying to remove parts of the Bible she does not agree with, Underwood is completely conforming to the world and choosing it over trusting in God and His truth. And beyond that she is “reshaping” God to fit her own feelings, which is idolatry. This is yet another sign of the age of Apostasy and the rise of the false church that has abandoned the Bible for person-centered ideas and feelings.
This is not being pointed out to attack Underwood. It is being done for 2 reasons: 1) to explain to those who are not familiar with the Bible what the Word of God actually states and 2) to serve as a sincere warning to all Christians that the division in the church between those who adhere to the Bible and those that follows their own ways and calls it Christianity is increasing. If we can ignore one sin, why not ignore more? This type of New Age Christianity opens the door for a faith where Jesus Christ Himself is no longer necessary to get to Heaven (something many ‘contemporary churches’ now preach). Do not be deceived. These types of churches are leading people to damnation.
Jesus prophesied that there would be a massive false church in the end times:
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. –Matthew 7:21-27
Pray for Underwood and her husband to turn back to the Bible and not a Christianity and a Jesus of their own creation. There is never an excuse for Christians to hate anyone. We are to always operate in a spirit of compassion and love for all people. But that should not come at the cost of abandoning the basic foundations of the faith.
Underwood is correct one point: Jesus did not command Christians to go out into the world to be the “moral police”, fight political referendums or to “judge every body.” The Bible is clear: we have all already been judged and found guilty. The Christians job is to preach the Gospel, which is the good news that despite our sin, God in His love for us has provided a way to forgiveness. And it just takes faith to receive it. And when one trusts and believes God to have faith in His Word, they can truly let Jesus take the wheel.
Just another example of a celebrity who doesn’t have enough strength to stand up against political correctness! How sad that someone would want man’s acceptance more than God’s. I would rather not have the fame and money, than to give up my beliefs and principles!
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I think that what you are saying is disrespectful and that as a christian myself i believe that same -sex relationship should be allowed and that does not mean i am giving up my beliefs and principles and she does have the strength to stand up for political correctness even if you don,t think so. in the bible it also says that you should not judge others so i think you should publicly apologize for your stupid worthless comment!:(
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I call troll.
Michael(Quote)
Amy Anderson being the troll I mean, just to clarify. How can you ignore Jesus when he quotes Genesis in Matthew 19:4-5 (KJV)? If the Bible as you say says not to judge others, didn’t you just judge Sparrow? How many judgments do you make a day? Don’t you judge what to wear, who to associate with and what to eat? Did Jesus say not to judge at all? Think it over.
Michael(Quote)
We are not to judge others as God gets to do that, but we do have to use good judgement daily so in a way we are judging. We still can’t decide if someone in a sinner or not. It is our view as we don’t know their hearts or life. We can love the gay person but still not love the sin. The bible clearly tells us no man lay with another man and no woman lay with another woman. Plus, if it wern’t for men and woman, there would be no children for gays to raise. So maybe, God had a plan and thats why I believe marriage is for men and women . Not to hate anyone, but not to discredit Gods law and his word, which is the holy bible. The bottom line, we all get to find out someday if we were living the way he wanted us to. I believe Carrie Underwood is a good prson and loving, at the same time doesn’t want to believe Gods word or choose what she wants to believe or not believe. It is now the same as it was when written. Gods laws don’t change to laws to suit the whim of people.
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“We still can’t decide if someone in a sinner or not. It is our view as we don’t know their hearts or life. ”
Yes we can decide if someone is a sinner because the Bible tells us that we ALL are sinners.
Romans 3:23King James Version (KJV)
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
1 John 1:8-10 NIV
8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.
Anthony(Quote)
There is a huge difference between making a judgement and pronouncing the punishment for that wrong doing. People believe that as a Christian we are to have no discernable ability whatsoever and it’s not judging when God in His word has already said what is right and wrong and homosexuality is wrong, I didn’t say it God says it and I make no qualms about agreeing with God on this issue as well as any other issue that He says we ought not to be doing. Wide is the road that leads to destruction and many are following one another down it but narrow is the road that leads to life everlasting and peace for eternity with Christ. If your house is on fire you bet I’ll tell you to get out so you can live, if that hurts your feelings to hear the truth of a matter so you can live, I don’t know what else to say to you beside examine your own heart for one day each of us will give an account before God and if you are ashamed of Jesus in this adulterous generation He will be ashamed of you before Father God and His angels. Jesus Christ is the only way to eternal life, good works won’t get you there for our works apart from Christ are nothing but filthy rags, salvation is in Christ alone and through Calvary, get your heart right with Him and ask HIm to change what needs changed in you, to repent means to change ones direction.
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Lynda Davidson@
Are u a christian at all or claim to be one,because your comments are so unchristianlike,God’s word is to reprove is of sin and correct our errors,dont stand on God’s way to avoid being crushed.
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I hate to say it, but these days, when someone makes a claim of being Christian – especially a celebrity or an entertainer – you almost have to just turn a deaf ear to them, and pay them no attention, because it is inevitable that eventually they are going to do or say something that will prove that they are anything but a true Christian.
Not to be facetious or speak out of turn, but since Carrie’s doing all this “homosexuality is great” talk, and calls herself a Christian, I wonder how she’d feel if her husband were to suddenly confess to her that he is homosexual himself. I’m not saying that he is because I don’t know the man, but I’d be willing to bet, that for Carrie, homosexuality wouldn’t be as great as she’s claiming it is. She’d probably be on the first train smoking to divorce court.
B&E, I like how you said this here:
“But it is our sin that has caused the separation, death and destruction of society today. God who is morally perfect and just, cannot allow sin to be part of his Holy Kingdom…”
This is what people really don’t understand! Plain and simple. For the life of them, they cannot grasp the truth that unrighteousness and wickedness and sin are not going to be allowed into the Kingdom of God. They absolutely REF– USE to understand and accept this! They really do believe that they should be allowed into the Kingdom of God anyway, regardless of their present sinful state, so they set about searching for (other) ways to get there – except through the only true way: the Lord Jesus Christ. But Christ has already said that no man comes unto the Father except through Him, and to come through Him, we must confess and repent of our sins and turn from our wickedness. This is the part Satan hates because the Lord Jesus Christ is a hinderance to him getting into the Kingdom of God. The gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ is never going to change – no matter how much Satan deceives people and they fall for his deceptions, no matter how many so called Christian celebrities jump on the bandwagon and pat people on their backs for their sins. And when the truth of God the Father is laid out for them to see it, they throw tantrums because they can’t stand the truth because it’s not what they want to hear. SMH!
God bless you, B&E!
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@BeginningAndEnd.Thank’s for posting this.I’m not surprised by Carrie Underwood supporting the Abomination that is homosexuality.She’s just following the lead of most entertainers that claim to be Christians.Yet,oddly enough these celebrities that identify themselves as being a Christian,their views on things like homosexuality,abortion and Jesus Christ being the only way to get to heaven,doesn’t seem to line up with what the word of God saids on these issues.
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I am a 25 year old gay Christian. I do not practice sex. I do have a partner, but we do not have sex or believe in gay marriage. It’s been a struggle all my life, and for you to sit there from your self righteous pedastle and judge me so hatefully really ticks me off. You have no idea what it’s like being born gay, yet refusing to have sex for Christ. So go somewhere else with your hate!
Jeff(Quote)
Great to hear from you Jeff! At least you recognize the sin and are repenting of that sin and turning to Christ. Praise the Lord for that!!
However you are taking everything way to personal and out of context. If you read it carefully this is not about homosexuals in general, but rather the actual sin of homosexuality. Love the sinner hate the sin remember.
Jw said “Carrie Underwood supporting the Abomination that is homosexuality.” He didn’t say the abomination that is homosexuals. Homosexuals are not an abomination, just their sin and any other sin for that matter. God Bless
Peter(Quote)
I am a Christian woman. Married to a man. Please direct me to any verse in the bible spoken by Christ Jesus speaking about homosexuality. It takes only seconds, thanks to the internet, for me or anyone to search the bible and find out that Jesus said; He said that rich people should pay more than the poor in taxes, that rich people have a hard time getting into heaven, that you should love your neighbor, that you should not judge other people’s sins, andhe said you should give all your stuff to the poor. However, not once did Jesus say a thing about gay people. So, when you smugly judge Carrie Underwood or homosexuality, think about what Jesus actually said and think about how happy he is going to be with your actions. If Brittany Spears can get married to a guy for 5 hours and Christians can get divorced multiple times (a sin as big as homosexuality) then we have no right to single out gay people. From what I’ve read in the bible, homosexuality is no more of a sin than eating shrimp, wearing cotton poly blends, or picking up sticks on Saturday. Most people are not aware, have forgotten or do not know it was Christians (specifically Southern Baptists) 150 years ago that argued FOR slavery, using the bible to justify slavery or that so called Christians were fighting against desegregation and that was was only 50 years ago. In another 50 years theologians and the world will probably be condeming us for what bad Christians we were.
Kim(Quote)
Hi Kim,
Thank you very much for your comments and questions. I would be glad to answer them to the best of my ability:
1. Where does Jesus Speak about Homosexuality? — The first thing we should understand as Christians is that Jesus is God. This is a fundamental part of the faith and I am going to write assuming we agree on this. So if we share this belief then finding where Jesus speaks on homosexuality is easy:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: – 2 Timothy 3:16.
All of the Bible was inspired by God, meaning God directed the authors or spake to them directly to inform them of what to write to make the Holy Scriptures. The Bible is not a collection of opinions or philosophies. It is the Word of God. As such, Jesus is the author of all of the Bible. The authors were just instrument to record His Word. The book of John confirms this when it states: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. (John 1:1-3). Jesus is literally called The Word of God. We see this again at His Second Coming in Revelation. So the Word of The Lord is embodied in Jesus.
Jesus confirms all of the Old Testament Scriptures on homosexuality when He said: “I and my Father are one.” (John 10:30). This was one of the many times Jesus affirmed that there is no difference between Him and the God of the Old Testament. He said “if you have seen me, you have seen the Father.” So there should be no attempt to distinguish Jesus from God The Father for a Christian. Jesus clearly states that He identifies 100% with every aspect of God. That would mean God’s clear statements on homosexuality being a sin a well.
And finally, we have Jesus actually defining marriage: “And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? 6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.” — Matthew 19:3-6 Jesus, quoting Genesis, clearly defines marriage as between a man and a woman, forever. Did He say “gay marriage is a sin”? No. But that does not change the fact that He defines marriage as between a man and a woman. So in every way, Jesus indeed advocated traditional, Biblical marriage.
2) Brittney Spears and Christians who divorce — Brittney and those Christians are in sin as well. No question about it. I agree with you 100%. Marriage is supposed to be forever. And I don’t think any Christian would look at a “5-minute marriage” then divorce and not think there was something wrong with it. This site is not giving Christians a pass. Interestingly, it’s actually Underwood’s church that is giving a pass and ignoring God’s Word.
3) Eating shrimp, fabrics, etc. — Have you looked at the passages that mention these things? I wonder. Because by studying them we can see that they pertain to the ancient Israelite nation and their laws which were to specifically keep them separate and holy from the pagan, Nephilim led, false angel worshiping nations that surrounded them. This is why there are prohibitions about how one cuts their hair or mixing animal fur and with plant fabrics. As Gentiles we are under a moral law that God has written in our hearts. This is explained in Romans 2:
For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;). – Romans 2:14-15.
So even if a Christian does not know the Mosaic laws, they are still guilty in God’s eyes because He has written laws for us on our hearts. Hence it being called a “conscience” which means “with knowledge.” We have innate knowledge of good and evil. And in the prior chapter, the Bible states that homosexuality, even in the New testament is still a sin:
“Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.” — Romans 1:22-27
So if these terms and verses bother you, then the issue is with God, not with Christians. Carrie Underwood’s church has chosen to reject God’s Word in certain parts that they do not approve of. That is a lack of faith in God! This is why this issue is so serious. We are saved by our faith. If we do not believe God, we do not have faith. Churches that make these decisions to pick and choose parts of the Bible are teaching a false Gospel and leading people to Hell. This is the danger of the false churches that are ever increasing today.
4) Do not judge – By my count, in your post you judged Brittney Spears, Southern Baptists, Christians who divorce and the Bible itself for prohibiting shellfish. See how hard it is to not judge when we are discussing moral matters? It is inherent. Not to mention as Christians we are supposed to judge. Jesus said: “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.” We are to judge in accordance with God’s Word. And that’s what this all comes down to – whether we are willing to believe all of God’s Bible or just certain parts. This is a very important question as the church becomes more infiltrated with false doctrine and heresy. We are to seek the “whole counsel of God” and not eliminate parts of the Bible. Yet Carrie Underwood has done just that. I write this not to judge but to just share the Biblical basis for the thoughts in the article. God bless you.
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AMEN!
Dee(Quote)
Hello Jeff. I appreciate the fact that you choose to abstain for CHRIST. But the Truth has to be spelt out completely. As a Christian, you have to understand that homosexuality is an abomination and GOD canNOT make anyone gay. Homosexuality is a sin (just as lying, stealing, hatred, murder etc are), and sins are influenced by demons. Which was made possible by the fall of man. But JESUS is here to release you from that bondage of sin. (I am a living testimony. From addictions. I am now free). JESUS is always the same. This (homosexuality) is one of the reasons Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed. But in contemporary times, it’s the individual that would be destroyed (in hell). So you need to re-dedicate your life to CHRIST. Break any generational curse that might have influenced this, and renounce those demons influencing your mind/emotions, all in the name of JESUS. Command them to lose their grips in the name of JESUS, and cast them out in the name of JESUS. Invite the HOLYSPIRIT to dwell and take charge of your entire being. I pray for a total deliverance for you in JESUS’ Name, Amen. I love you, and JESUS Loves and wants you to be free (that’s why HE died). Shalom.
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Read Romans 1: 26-32 The word is so clear for those who really want to serve Him in spirit and truth!! Nowadays people want serve God the way they want to, the way that they think is easiest for them. God didn’t say that this rode was going to be easy that’s why he said deny yourself take up your cross and follow me. It’s time we stand in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But sad to say many are saying we will not walk therein. Church we need to intercede for these people, for this world, The trumpet is soon to sound and God is coming soon!!!!!! Amen
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Read Romans 1: 26-32 The word is so clear for those who really want to serve Him in spirit and truth!! Nowadays people want serve God the way they want to, the way that they think is easiest for them. God didn’t say that this road was going to be easy that’s why he said deny yourself take up your cross and follow me. It’s time we stand in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But sad to say many are saying we will not walk therein. Church we need to intercede for these people, for this world, The trumpet is soon to sound and God is coming soon!!!!!! Amen
Evelyn(Quote)
Jess please check out http://www.purepassion.us
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Jeff,
We are all born sinners. It just manifests itself in different ways. Jesus laid his life down for His sheep so that they may be freed from the bondage of sin. If you find yourself struggling, I recommend you take some time a reread Romans 6. Sometimes, I find myself needed a reminder of these things to continue on in the war on the flesh by which is only conducted through the Spirit. Prayers for you my friend.
Anthony.
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I agree 100% with Carrie and am glad she said what she did. I do not think Jesus would send someone to Hell just for falling in love with someone of the same gender because Jesus is love so condemning someone for having love makes no sense.
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Beloved, if you have a Bible, I encourage you to read what the Word of God says in the book of Romans Chapter 1:24-27, especially vs. 26 and 27. Verse 26 specifically speaks about women having “vile affections” (sexual lusts) towards one another, and verse 27 speaks specifically concerning men doing the same. This is the Word of God concerning homosexuality.
Perhaps you are confusing Jesus Christ’s admonition in John 13:34-35, which speaks solely of brotherly love, with the homosexual lusts spoken of in the book of Romans. Do not be confused; the Lord Jesus Christ was not commanding men and women to love one another in a homosexual way. Homosexuality has already been judged to be a sin and an abomination before the sight of God. Carrie Underwood saying that it is not a sin does not change the Word of God.
You Need Schooling(Quote)
I think it is sad Carrie supports this issue, but just because she supports gay marriage does not mean she is not saved or does not have her own personal relationship with Jesus Christ. You can’t judge Carrie for that. It’s like pointing the finger at someone and not seeing the sin in your own life. Santification is a life long process. If Carrie is calling on the neame of the Jesus that makes her just as much a Christian and a part of the Kingdom as anyone else that calls upon the name of the Lord.
Hopefully, the Holy Spirit will convict her and show her the error in her ways.
Peter(Quote)
Hi Peter – Thanks very much for your comments. I actually respectfully disagree with you on this point. Underwood has stated that she does not believe homosexuality is a sin and attends a church that expressly states homosexuality is not a sin and God just wants us to love people over anything else. So how can someone be saved from something that they do not even view as a sin? One does not ask forgiveness if you don’t think you did something wrong. That is worshiping another God and preaching a different Gospel. The Bible takes this very seriously.
“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.” — Galatians 1:6-10
I quoted that verse in the article for that specific reason. The time has come for Christians to take a stand against the false, heretic Christianity that is cropping up all over the world. Jesus Christ The Lord made it clear that just calling on His name does not mean He knows you. If you put faith and simply believe in the Jesus of the Bible, who He really is, then of course you have eternal life. But if you change the Bible, change who Jesus is and change the Gospel, what faith are you practicing? Beloved, I only speak so strongly because I have compassion for those who are being misled by false teachers and apostate pastors who have let the world guide their faith rather than the Word.
When Aaron and some of the Israelites made the Golden calf, who did they worship with it? God. And was God pleased? No. He was angry because they ignored His “rules” and made a graven image to worship. And 3,000 people died that day. We are to worship and see God on His terms, not our own. I would appreciate hearing your thoughts on this because I think this is becoming a major issue in the church today. God bless.
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I agree her church should be teaching correct doctrine especially from the pulpit. But Carrie as an individual does not earn her salvation by the doctrine she believes in. Salvation comes from faith in Jesus Christ and his finished work on the cross.
Who are we to judge who is Christian and who is not. (Matthew 7: 1,2) “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.”
Carrie may have some flaws in her doctrine, but there is no one who is perfect or has everything together. Scripture is clear that if she has called upon the name of the Lord she is saved. To say Carrie is a “Christian” in a sarcastic way is just finger pointing and extremely unappealing especially to the lost.
The Gospel is faith in Jesus Christ and his work on the cross. When you start telling people they have to support this and support that and believe in this and that, and do this and that, it just perverts the SIMPLE Gospel message of the cross.
Yes sound doctrine should be taught, but we are not saved by any kind of works. It’s a very fine line. As I said earlier, sanctification is a life long process. It is this process where God cleans up your doctrine and lifestyle, but salvation has already been given to you the moment you believe.
You should correct your article.
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Yes, the simple Gospel is believing that Jesus Christ died for your sins and was raised on the third day. Absolutely. But that is not all the Bible has to say about salvation. We have to reconcile that verse with other things Jesus said. And if Jesus says, there will be people who say to Him “Lord, Lord!”, meaning they acknowledge Him as The Lord and He says to them “I never knew you” then there is more to the idea of salvation that we need to understand, lest we have a contradiction (of which the Bible has none). So it is our job as Christians to reconcile these verses and rightly divide the Word of Truth.
So it seems from Scripture that the reason why some people who call on the name of Jesus will not be saved is that they are not calling on the Jesus of the Bible. This is where the verses from Galatians inform our understanding.
“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”
Notice Paul writes of “another Gospel.” So people can believe in a false Gospel. Paul explains this point more in 2 Corinthians 11:
“3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. 4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.”
Again, we see the mention of “another Gospel” but this time there is also “another Jesus” and “another Spirit.” So we know, Biblically, that there is a different Jesus being preached then the one of the BIble. And Paul compares it Satan’s deception of Eve. How did Satan deceive her? By subtly changing the Word of God and say his way was the way to “never die.” And that is precisely what is taking place today. The Word of God is being perverted and changed and people are being told “you’ll still go to Heaven!” if they believe in a ‘different Jesus.’
So if you believe in that Jesus, where is going to take you? If you believe a false Gospel, will that get you salvation? If you preach that the rules of the Bible on sin no longer matter and do no apply any more, is that preaching the real Gospel? What if Underwood said “all people of all faiths go to Heaven.”? Is she still believing in Biblical salvation?
Again, this site is not a “gotcha” website. It is not here to catch professing celebrity Christians in sin and try to “prove them false.” But when a person says they are a Christian, sits down for an interview to specifically discuss their faith and then says things that are completely contrary to the Bible, I believe it is fair to analyze and discuss it. The False church of Laodicea is on the march and growing every day. The last thing I would ever want is for someone spend their life believing in Jesus only to hear “I never knew you.” We should take that passage as a warning. There are people who want to be Christians who are learning a false Christianity that Jesus will not acknowledge. So we should urgently look into this to bring the true Gospel and the true Jesus Christ to people so that no one has to ever hear those frightening words.
Oh and finally, the title of the article was not sarcasm. It was very seriously questioning what kind of Christian faith was Underwood preaching. Hence the points in the article. I hope that clears up my perspective and thanks again for your comments. It is important that we in the body of Christ can go to Scripture and discuss these things to make sure we are all in right understanding of The Word. I agree, we are never all going to get every point in the Bible right or agree on everything. God bless.
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Actually, there is nothing else other than the simple Gospel when it comes to salvation. That is what makes it simple. You are adding works into the equation and making it complex. (The gay marriage support thing.)
The LORD Lord verse you are referring to are people who wear Christianity as a name tag or a way to get some kind of worldly gain. Also, that verse is referring to false prophets or false pastors or false teachers. But how are we to really know who has had the true born again experience and who hasn’t. You are judging Carrie when the Bible clearly says not to do. Carrie may be using the Christian thing as a name tag or she may not be, but that is between her and the Lord and is not for you to judge or me.
If Carrie truly is a Christian she more than likely won’t always support gay marriage because the Holy Spirit will convict her as he sanctifies her throughout her life. As I have said earlier, sanctification is a lifelong process. The moment we believe we are pretty much useless and completely ignorant of and kind of truth about gay marriage, etc. . But guess what? We are saved because we bowed our knee and called upon Jesus. That is the simple Gospel and all that is required for salvation.
We will all stand before Jesus and be judged, but salvation will have already been taken care of. Instead, this judgement will be based on works and the rewards or lack thereof we will receive.
A man on his deathbed calls upon Jesus, he is saved and he may have never read one Scripture about gay marriage.
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Thanks again for getting back to me. With all due respect I think you are seriously mischaracterizing my position. If you look at my last comment to you, I did not mention gay marriage at all. This is not about gay marriage. It is about idolatry. It is about creating a God and a Jesus of your own design, and not accord with the Bible. Underwood used the gay marriage question to explain her views on God and His “rules” which she feels that to God, are no longer important. So my question to you is, is it okay for someone to completely misunderstand God and still be saved? What if someone says that Jesus is “one of many ways to Heaven”? Is that believing in the Jesus of the Bible? What about Oprah, who says Jesus had the “Christ Consciousness” that other great Masters and teachers have had through history? Is that good enough to be a born again believer? That is the point I am making because I am trying to warn people from believing in a false Gospel or “another Jesus.” I look forward to your response. God bless.
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Here is what I am saying. I agree Carrie is definitely in error. But your article has a judgmental vibe to it. I just believe it should be rewritten or rephrased in a way as to question the authenticity of her faith rather than judging it as apostate basically.
You use a verse from Galations in your article which going with the vibe of your article is out of context. The verse talks about a different Gospel. What is the Gospel? It is grace through faith not of works. This is the context of Paul’s letter as well as this verse. Paul’s biggest frustration was people with a religious mindset who add works to the equation which leads to bondage and essentially is a “different Gospel.” Chapter 5 of Galations is all about “freedom in Christ.” And when you add works into the equation it takes away people’s freedom and puts them into bondage.
If Carrie has to be worried about her view on homosexually, then what else does she have to worry about? What other rule? Santification is a lifelong process.
Now I agree with your other articles on the Prosperity Gospel. I believe when it’s coming from the pulpit it should be judged harshly.
So when you ask “is it okay for someone to completely misunderstand God and still be saved?” As hard as it might be to take I would say according to Scripture yes. Think about a life long atheist making a deathbed confession. How well can that person really know God or the Bible? That person stepped out in faith and because of it will be saved.
Christ Consciousness, many ways to heaven, gay marriage and all that garbage, if a person is truly converted should be weeded out through santification throughout that person’s life.
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I think I gonna have to go with Peter on this one. Views on gay marrioage etc. are a ‘moot point’ for the immature Christian or biblical illiterate.
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@Peter. Once again thanks for getting back to me.
“You use a verse from Galations in your article which going with the vibe of your article is out of context. The verse talks about a different Gospel. What is the Gospel? It is grace through faith not of works. This is the context of Paul’s letter as well as this verse. ”
No, it’s actually not the context of the verse I quoted. I will post it again:
“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”
The specific issue that church was dealing with at that time were Judaizers. This is very true. however, the verse I quote says if any man preach ANY OTHER GOSPEL, let him be accursed. That is a prescriptive verse for all Christians. Underwood is clearly preaching a different Gospel.
I then provided the passage that warns against listening to anyone who preaches a different Gospel or a “different Jesus” which again supports my point.
“Christ Consciousness, many ways to heaven, gay marriage and all that garbage, if a person is truly converted should be weeded out through santification throughout that person’s life.”
Ok, so I obviously disagree. But I have to ask at this point, where is your Scripture to support this? It sounds like a lot of feelings and opinions, but what sayeth the Scripture? Please show me where in the Bible this principle ever plays out. That you can believe Jesus is one of many ways. You can believe Jesus was just a man who happened to receive the Christ Consciousness for a few years and you are saved? I assume you also believe that Mormons, who believe that Jesus was born as a product of intimate relations between God and His wife, and is also a brother of Satan, are saved as well??
Why was God mad at the Israelites when they made the golden calf? They made it to worship him! They celebrated with it on a feast day to the Lord. So why was God so wrought that 3,000 people had to be murdered by their fellow Israelites? Look at the book of Jeremiah, where he screams at the nation for its idolatry. What is an idol? Just fashioning a god that suits your own desires and wants. The main sin that brought the destruction of the nation of Israel was its idolatry. Beloved, I just don’t see where the Bible supports your thoughts that any version of Jesus is okay with God. Thanks again and God bless.
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I can’t reply anymore at the bottom so I’ll reply to this one.
You obviously don’t believe in sactification. It’s funny, the more and more we talk, the more and more I believe this issue boils down to how you view salvation. And I think this is why we are not agreeing on this subject.
After talking with you for several posts now I think it’s obvious you are free will. (Arminianism)
And I obviously am a Calvinist. I believe salvation is a one time event. I believe real birth is symbolic of the spiritual birth. Meaning you can’t go back and be unborn spiritually or physically. I have studied each one at great length and I believe in the Calvinist approach to salvation strictly because I believe it is the only approach that keeps the Gospel pure and not about works.
Where free will teaches you can basically come and go in and out of the faith. One minute you saved, next minute you not, next day your saved, next minute your not. So you have to ask yourself what do you have to do to be saved according to the free will approach?
This is probably why we aren’t agreeing here.
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Wow. I honestly had no idea that you were a Calvinist or that was where you were going with this. Well I can assure you that I am not a Calvinist nor an Arminian. I do no subscribe to man-made philosophies. I just stick with the Bible.
And the point I am making, you seem to keep evading. Where is your Biblical support, from actual Scripture that supports the notion that someone can believe in a “Jesus” who is nothing like the one of the Bible and still be saved? If you are worshiping a god that is not the Jesus revealed in Scripture, it’s an idol. Hence my example of the golden calf. The Israelites were treating it as God but it was still idolatry. So just show me the scripture that supports your belief that any notion of Jesus, (i.e., the Mormons who say God had a wife and their child from physical union was Jesus. Oh and their other child was Satan) can still lead to salvation. Because everything in Scripture that I see would call that “Jesus” an idol and that Gospel, “another Gospel.”
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There was only one Jesus that died on a cross for sinners. This is the Jesus Carrie worships although with faulty doctrine. I am sure you understand that not all Christians have the knowledge of Scripture you and I have, but that makes us no better than them.
The requirements for salvation according to the Scriptures is faith Jesus died on a cross, shed His blood to atone for your sins. Nothing else. Grace alone, through faith alone. The Gospel has nothing to do with gay marriage. Carries not preaching a different Jesus, but rather a different doctrine. ( A faulty one)
When I say sanctification is a lifelong process this is what I am referring to if you are not understanding what I am saying. It is the gradual weeding out of sin/faulty doctrine etc As we grow in grace, transforming us to be more like Jesus.
“But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.” (2 Corinthians 3:18)
And this occurs in a process of daily spiritual renewal. “And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:” (Colossians 3:10)
Even Paul himself said he was being sanctified even as he ministered to others. Paul claimed that he had not reached perfection, but that he “pressed on” to attain everything Christ desired for him.
“Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.” (Philippians 3:12)
The reason I keep bringing up salvation is because you yourself are going against the Scriptures and judging Carrie by implying she lacks salvation when in reality she may just lack some knowledge of the Scriptures. She may lack some maturity in the faith. Although she believes in the same soul saving Gospel of the Cross that you and I believe in. You and I would be very arrogant if we were to act like WE have all the correct doctrine. We try to have the correct doctrine.
Thank God we are not saved by our doctrine though. We were saved the moment we believed in Christ’s finished work on the Cross to atone for our sins. Now can you honestly tell me you know for a fact Carrie hasn’t had that moment with Christ?
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I see now, that you are just not going to answer the questions I’m asking you so this discussion is not becoming that fruitful.
“There was only one Jesus that died on a cross for sinners. This is the Jesus Carrie worships although with faulty doctrine.”
Where is your scripture for this? I have no doubt that Ms. underwood believes in “Jesus.” But she is preaching a different Jesus and a different Gospel. That is my point.
And in fact, the Bible says the exact opposite about your idea that there is “only one Jesus”:
“4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.” (Matthew 24).
So once again, we see the Bible confirming that there are false Christs in society that will deceive people. We have Jesus saying there are people who call Him “Lord” who He has never known. And of course the Antichrist will be the ultimate deceiver who many will believe is Jesus Christ. Yet you believe that if someone believes Jesus is a man who had the Christ Consciousness, they are saved. Or if they believe in the Jesus who is brothers with Satan they are saved. But I don’t see any scripture that supports that. In fact, most of the Old Testament is preaching against that exact thing: it’s call idolatry.
Thanks for sharing your views. God bless.
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I answered your questions, however your interpretation about the Gospel message is faulty. You seem to believe that people have to be perfect and understand Scripture the way that you understand it to be saved which completely contradicts what Scripture says.
“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.” (1 John: 8)
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesian 2: 8,9)
Christ Consciousnes, Mormon theology is waaaaay over the top. This stuff corrupts the simple Gospel message as well as alot of the key tenets of Christianity. So much so that you can’t even call it a Christian denomination, but rather a cult. In this case this would definitely be considered a “different Gospel.” Mormonism is also a Gospel of works.
I asked you a question as well. My question was can you honestly tell me you know for a fact Carrie hasn’t had that moment with Christ when she believed in him as atonement for her sins?
Also according to your interpretation of the Gospel a baby Christian is probably not saved because they more than likely have a faulty interpretation of who Jesus is.
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Lol. When you’re very talkative (and I am referring to myself), people don’t often put words in your mouth. But you seem to keep doing that to me! lol. I say “it’s not about gay marriage” and then you write that I’m saying it’s all about gay marriage. I say that we are saved by grace and you say “you believe in salvation by works.” Once again, we are just 2 ships passing in the night. I am not sure if this is the only page on the site that you have been on, but this site is by far and away a promoter of salvation by grace, not works. See here for more information:
https://beginningandend.com/how-to-get-to-heaven/
All I am talking about is idolatry. I have provided the verses and examples so we have to just agree to disagree. I don’t believe in the Jesus of Mormonism, the Jesus of the New Age and certainly not the ultimate False Jesus. They are all idols. They are all vanity. And this site is dedicated to helping others avoiding that deception. You seem to be fully in support of Oprah’s Jesus, Theosophy’s Jesus and any other “Jesus” as long as works are not attached. So we will just have to agree to disagree on here.
But I do hope you look at the salvation page and see that I completely agree with you, 100%, that we are not saved by works, but by our faith in Jesus. I know many people, and maybe Carrie Underwood too (she did not say this in the article), have had a “moment” with Jesus. The only issue I was trying is which Jesus is it. But we can just agree to disagree. Thanks again for your willingness to have good, friendly discourse on serious spiritual issues. God bless and I look forward to discussing Calvinism with you some time should an article provide the opportunity.
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Yea, you were talking about idolatry and I was talking about salvation.
Yes I believe Mormonism and all that New Age junk is idolatry as well and Carrie is definitely bordering on it in my opinion.
The only reason I had originally brought up salvation is because I believe that when people are brought into a relationship with God that guarantees their salvation. You could call it eternal security or once saved always saved. Obviously, it has to be the God of the Bible.
I believe it is possible Carrie could have originally believed in the real Jesus and later on bought into this fake one. (idolatry you are talking about) But for me I still believe she is saved, If she believed in the real Jesus first, which is where I think we don’t agree. You seem to be an all or nothing kinda guy.
I think what you are saying is that if Carrie is in idolatry now she has probably always been, so you would probably label her as unsaved. I am not trying to put words in your mouth here, but just trying to understand where you are coming from.
Now if you want me to give you Scripture for why I believe in once saved always saved I can, but that is probably beside the point. Or, if your tired of talking with me and want to go back to creating content, then by all means. It was a good discussion. At least this post will have lots of comments and probably give it some good SEO strength on Google. lol
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@BeginningAndEnd. Amen,to your response to Peter.Very well said.
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I absolutely agree. Media brain washing propaganda. If u criticize homosexuals behavior its hate speech nowadays. When everyone in the biz is gay entertainers gay or not must at least look the other way
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I am going to post my comment from my view,being a mother of 2. Daughter 14 and son 9. Again this is my opinion and not meant to offend anyone else views. When someone of clout or is in the public’s eye have come forth they have to be careful of what they say in or out of the press spotlight. This opens the door for others who are not informed about the Bible and followers of Christ to believe that this is ok. Teenagers use excuses like Underwood’s to justify being gay in the church. Yes we all know that everyone is not in Christ as we all should be but this is just another stamp of approval from the heterosexual to the homosexuals that we should just live in love no matter who or what it is. A peer of my daughter’s ask her how do you know you’re not gay if you haven’t tried it, you might like it. I told my child that God warns us against that kind of stuff and not to dabble with it. Sounds like how do you know if you will like killing people if you never tried it. Like you said B&E Gods laws are in place to keep us close to God. Our kids are groomed by people who double speak. The Same God who said that that we should all love one another is the same God who said homosexuality is a sin. They are only doing this bc God has not physically came down out of heaven and stopped them… and again the Bible says you will know them by their fruit. If this is not Underwood’s true fruit then she over proved herself faith bc she then lied in the public’s eye to her fans.
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@jameccia: You’re absolutely right. Carrie’s views are her business, and they’re between her and God. Honestly, if she believes that Jesus Christ is her savior, she will be forgiven for her errors in judgement. BUT, she is seen my many young, impressionable fans as an IDOL, and many of her followers will hang on her every word. If she promotes gay rights and claims it’s not a sin, how many of her fans will follow suit?? As a Christian celebrity, she has a responsibility to promote the right message, and this simply isn’t right. I personally don’t hate homosexuals. In fact, I’ve had friends who are gay, but that doesn’t mean I agree with their lifestyle. I think there are many reasons why people are attracted to the same gender, many of which I’ll never understand, but I DO believe that we weren’t created for this and it certainly doesn’t please God. The Bible specifically states this!
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@ Aaron C I definitely have to agree with what you are saying in your comment. I have a couple of gay friends as well as a family member who is gay.
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Hey Contend,
Again, what I am saying is not about gay marriage. It is about saying Jesus Christ is someone completely different from whom the Bible is. Or saying God the Father is someone different from whom Scripture reveals. Can we then believe any type of Gospel as long as the name “Jesus” is attached to it??
Ironically, your screen name is taken from a verse that goes to this very issue:
Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. — Jude 1:3
Notice Jude says we are to fight for the faith that was “once given” meaning the original Gospel as given by the Apostles and Jesus Christ. How do you read that verse? God bless.
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” But if we do not acknowledge our sin, then we do not believe in a need for a Savior.”
This is all there is to the matter! Satan’s biggest ploy is not to make people feel guilty over every little thing, it is to remove the word “sin” from the Christian’s vocabulary. Denying that behaviours constitute sin denies the very need for John 3:16
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I was dismayed when Underwood felt the need to make her thoughts on this subject public for the same reasons many have expressed here. The Bible is very clear on homosexuality and if she and her husband truely sit at home at night studying the scriptures as she claims, I can only pray she will achieve a far better understanding on the subject. Growing up in theatre, I have had numerous gay friends who I loved with all of my heart. But not once did I condone their lifestyle as I believe it is a life of sin. I simply loved them and prayed for them as God commanded. I loved the sinner, not the sin, and they loved and respected me as well. And while dismayed at Underwood’s words, I cannot say I was surprised…but it wouldn’t be the first time a celebrity that has claimed to be Christian, but bends the word of God to suit the purpose of fame. Oprah Winfrey is another example that comes to mind. I will pray for these people.
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Amen.
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BandE I just wanna say The Most High bless you brother/sister.I have been truly blessed by your articles(BTW I’m new)you make it so simple for me to understand the Scriptures thank you.Peace in Christ
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This homosexual deal is becoming very big, especially in churches. Did anyone follow the whole United Methodist Conference deal a few months ago? A lot of churches are buying into the homosexuality issue. And then almost every TV show these days features at least one homosexual. It’s being shoved down the throats of Americans so much that it’s becoming the norm. I’ve been hosting a Bible study at my house every week for 18-30 year olds. I believe that is such a vital age for a Biblical worldview. We recently did an apologetics study. Each week, we would ask a question and would come back the next week with to hear each person’s answer. A few weeks ago, I asked, “You have a friend. He says he’s a Christian and he honestly wants to know why you think homosexuality is a sin.” We had several good answers and they all pointed to the unavoidable answer that the Bible declares homosexuality as a sin. I have to wonder if some churches even read the Bible! Now, with that being said, I do think Christians have messed up at times tackling this issue. Sometimes we single out just the sin of homosexuality above all other sins. Sometimes we try to clean the sinner up before they are saved. We try to fix the homosexual issue before they give their lives to Jesus. I think this is backwards. The same power that conquered the grave is the same power that can rescue a sinner from their sinful grave. Homosexuality is a strange thing to most of us…but I think it should be. I think it’s pretty obvious that it goes against our design. But, we don’t hate homosexuals at all. We shouldn’t hate anyone. My belief is that whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. We don’t make the choice of who gets to be saved. I think some people just get so lost on the “hate” issue that they blind themselves to the truth and reject the gospel. Don’t believe the lie that you are born that way. There is no valid science behind that. The world wants homosexuals to believe that they are stuck. There is no other option. You were just born that way. Embrace it. How is that loving??? Christians say that there’s a way out!! The same with all other sins. Praise God that He made a way for us!
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That was a powerful statement and very Biblical. Our faith should always show our respect for God’s law and the love we have for all people. Thank you for your comments. God bless.
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So you have people in your church that were gay but have been saved and are now straight, did i read that right? And there is no valid science proving they are born that way…you are bringing science into a conversation dealing with religion? Really?
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to me I don’t really care what gays do, if they want to get married or not.
let them do what they want.
Romans 1:26
let them do what they want…in the end they condemn themselves.
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Hey Xino,
This article is not about the political issue of gay marriage. The focus is what does the Bible say compared to Carrie Underwood’s doctrines. The governments of the world will choose to do what they see fit. The church is to proclaim the Gospel and stand for God’s truth. So in short, I understand your point. God bless.
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She’s not a Christian, if she believes in gay marriage. The way she dresses lately isn’t very modest, as per the bible’s instructions, either.
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Ya’ll need to quit stating that carrie is not Christian as you don’t know where her heart is with Him so shut up and keep your opinions to yourselves. “Anyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved” Carrie is a great artist and I am sick and tired of every dang person on the internet slamming her because she isn’t perfect. Get over yourselves and realize that YOU SIN TOOO DUMMYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you want I would be more than happy to let you slip into a world where your perfect and sinless but I am too kind and considerate to let someone slip into that world. READ YOUR FREAKEN BIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will get argumentative with people who don’t know their butt from a hole in the ground and yes I am a Christian. I am a southern baptist too. so shut up and quit judging people who you have no clue what their personal life consists of.
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@Peter are you saying that Judas Iscariot is in heaven?? The Bible says “Anyone who puts his hand to the plough and looks back is not worthy of the Kingdom of Heaven”. Please do not be deceived. If you have been saved and you still have an unconfessed and unforgiven sin, if you die or the Rapture takes place, I’m sorry to say, but you would not make heaven. Grace is the ability to say no to sin, and be 100% holy. Remember, the Kingdom of GOD is Holy, and GOD is HOLY, Perfect, and Just. 1Peter 1:14& 15 : “As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to your for as HE which has called you is Holy, be ye Holy in all manner of conduct”. The Bible also says: “Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? GOD Forbid!”. Beloved, please accept the Grace available Now, before it’s too late.
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*”As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to your former lusts in your ignorance, but as HE which as called you is Holy, be ye Holy in all manner of conduct”*
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*”As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to your former lusts in your ignorance, but as HE which has called you is Holy, be you Holy in all manner of conduct”*
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I have to question Anyone that thinks if a gay person stays on the course of denying who they are, that their homosexuality will go away. Have none of you had a really close friend that was gay? I watched as my friend tried to be straight, tried to not disappoint his Christian family, tried to act as “straight” as he possibly could, and in turn he lived a miserable life. I don’t understand what you think, do you think if they date women that one day they will develop feelings for a woman and get married? Elaborate what you think a gay person should do, if praying doesn’t “change” them. My mother is a devout Christian, but even she will say that there is a possibility that they are born that way.
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Accepting a GAY in church is like accepting a prostitute Adulteress.
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Peter,
Personal Sanctification is a life long process no doubt. But to say that this process takes years(she claims years as a believer) for a believer to recognize that homosexuality is a sin is just SILLY. All it takes is reading the correct bible translation to see it is a SIN. You are saying that an example of personal sanctification is someone who does’nt think murder is a sin and years later the Holy Spirit reveals to the believer it is a sin. Get a backbone and call it the way it is. She is not saved and goes to a church that worships a FALSE Jesus. Great Article Beginning and End!
Steven(Quote)
Steven, you’re right. Years ago I believed that there was nothing wrong with gay marriage, and I considered myself Christian at the time. One day I sat down with the Bible and read Romans 1:26-27. I read it a second time. Then I read it a third time. I put my Bible down and said to myself, ok, God really does NOT approve of homosexual activity! That was enough to clear up my erroneous thinking that God would give a ‘pass’ on that kind of behavior.
Todd(Quote)
Thanks to you all for discussions that help inform a fairly new believer, as myself. If i may first, commend B&E for such refined discernment. I best use Scripture, huh! I love Ephesians 4:19-23. (I am trying to correctly type this on a smartphone, so bear with.) And this version is not perfect, but a wonderful ‘draft’ version, HRV, or Hebraic Roots Version, all caps for my ease: “THEY HAVE CUT OFF THEIR HOPE AND THEY HAVE SURRENDERED THEIR NEFESH TO PERVERSION AND TO THE WORK OF ALL UNCLEANNESS IN THEIR GREEDINESS.” This follows Paul tenderly warning us how important sticking with the right teaching is! Now here is his beautiful, humble, apostlistic authority for his stark statement (judgement really, as a parent warning a child); v. 20-21: “BUT YOU DID NOT THUS LEARN THE MESSIAH, IF TRULY YOU HAVE HEARD HIM, AND BY HIM YOU HAVE LEARNED, AS TRUTH IS IN YESHUA.”
It is not a matter of judging any gay person, or Carrie. What B&E helps with is to turn readers back to Truth alone. If Carrie or some preacher is taking Scripture lightly, or to their own greedy ends — RUN.
Second point, and last: homosexuality, orgies, murder, killing babies; all is of sin and the devil, but so is failure to provide for orphans and widows. Only obedience makes me charitable and chaste, powered only by Faith in the Person of Christ, actually His gift of Faith. He makes a sick dying world & church hate to hear His Truth, the gospel. We are His salt and light, so let’s not lose our savor. We compromise due to the FALSE gospel of Tolerance. In the name of tolerance your ears will dull to the truth. But, our LORD can liven us to love even our enemies, so why not hate homosexuality, even as our Beloved Father and Creator of all does! Shalom.
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Holly(Quote)
If homosexuality was natural & perfectly fine like these sell out artist’s would have us believe,wonder why they’re with the opposite sex?smh
niki34(Quote)
Beginningandend – First and foremost, I am so happy I found this site. Overjoyed may be a better term; lately I’ve been seeing the spiritual side to world events and just events going on in my daily life and recently I’ve been seeing how much of an influence Satan has in this world. He is even in the church! Impact church (or whatever name it is in Joplin, MO) is an example. I see cd covers, movies, artists, celebrities…..and all I think of is how mislead people are by them (and Satan). However, to the case at point: Carrie Underwood.
I think this is a case where (and I hope) Carrie is spiritually immature about homosexuality. It is true that Satan’s agenda is to normalize sin in mainstream culture and media (and he has), and his greatest feat would be to include it in the church. I once had a long debate with a college friend on Facebook about the sin of homosexuality….and I don’t think I did a good job of showing love. I was too quick to attack and point out the sin of homosexuality and I believe I may have turned my friend off from Christianity due to my hardline approach. Homosexuality and homosexuals is a very difficult topic for the church; the scripture regarding sexual sin is very damning, but for many Christians I think it is tough to take the mindset where 1.homosexuality is a sin but 2.the homosexual we should love, especially when Christ’s command was to Love the Lord your God, and love others as yourself. Jesus’s life was characterized by loving acts, and God’s greatest act of love to the world was providing us Jesus. And in today’s culture, saying you believe homosexuality is a sin is considered hate speech….and that’s not how many Christians want to be portrayed. Its an inaccurate portrayal, but I understand how many are timid to share their beliefs that homosexuality is, simply put, sin. Many will even claim you are born gay, and that only fuels the fire for normalcy of homosexuality.
However, to your point….Carrie finds herself in no man’s land because she is claiming to be a Christian – a follower of Christ, the son of God, and THE WORD – yet she is unable to swallow the fact that homosexuality is a sin. We are to love homosexuals, but we cannot deny that sin is sin. I don’t dobut that Carrie believes in Jesus Christ, and to the individual you intellectually argued with by the name of PETER – I agree it really is not our place to argue if she is written in the lamb’s book of life. Obviously, she doesn’t understand the full severity of the scriptures in regards to homosexual sin. But there has to be a loving way to try and correct the believer. If she truly is a believer, the holy spirit will convict her, and she will change her mind (and we should PRAY for her! Think its easy to be a Christian in regular daily life? Being a celebrity makes it only that much harder to be a true cross-carrying Christian. We should not attack her, but show her love. We should rebuke her, but in love). If she is not…..then Peter is wrong and you are right: she serves a God that tailors to her…..a God that gave us Jesus, but is okay with homosexuality….not the Sovereign LORD of the Holy Bible.
Thanks again so much for this site, for what you represent, and for all the articles. I can’t stop reading! Please keep them coming!!!
LoveConquers(Quote)
There’s nothing better than the word of God that reveals what is right and what is wrong. In Leviticus 18:22-24 says Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you. There are many like Carrie Underwood decieved by the lies of the enemy but it is up to the church to intercede for them that they may come to the true understanding of the word of God. Pray that God opens their eyes, heart, and mind to the true holiness of God! We serve an unstoppable God who can do anything!!!
Evelyn(Quote)
Amen Evelyn.
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So Carrie, you are saying that sex before marriage is no longer a sin? As a Christian you are wrong. It doesn’t matter whether you are gay , lesbian or straight, Sex before marriage is a sin in God’s eyes.
David Hatfield(Quote)
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It just occurred to me when reading this or rather I would like to say the Holy Spirit, Jesus mentioned in the last days that there would be many false teachers and media being one of the major ways to communicate I believe satan is using these very people like Underwood and others to steer young people away from God. Look at the Kardashian’s church, they have a church but look at their lifestyles. I understand we are not to judge others but . . .
L(Quote)
its obvious she dose not know a thing of the bible i almost puked when i read what she said she is no chritian i will never watch her on sunday night football or listen to any of her music again she is either ignoant of the bibble or caved under presure she may not care what i think but god will be her judge
ken lauderback(Quote)
Thank you so much for printing the truth of Jesus while providing a forum to discuss struggles, misconceptions of the gospel and concerns. Jesus Christ is pure truth , follow Him !
Patricia(Quote)
My wife and I are both for same sex marriages , if you love the person with all your heart and want to spend the rest of your life with them than go for it.My wife has gotten into lots debates with Christian”s about her beliefs and what she says , even priests , and she has always left them speechless. She always says this and I”m with her 100% , “GOD didn’t write the bible , MEN did so what makes them the higher good and tell us what to believe “. Sorry this might offend some people but that is what we believe
grow up(Quote)
I’m just really blessed that she can actually spell unlike your ignorant –. Lmao. Rock on Carrie Underwood!!!
Jakkkkeeeee(Quote)
I realize this article is old and that no one probably still reads these comments but I came across this page while working on a paper so I thought I might as well voice my opinion. 2nd Corinthians 6:9-10 says that those who practice homosexuality will not inherit the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God that is spoken here, is, I believe, the kingdom in Heaven as well as the Kingdom Jesus brought with Him to earth. A person who practices homosexuality and doesn’t repent is living in sin just as an adulterer is. If they don’t repent then they cant participate in the kingdom that Jesus brought with him (Making disciples and sharing the Gospel) as well as Heaven. I do believe that Homosexuality is a sin that people struggle with just as lust is. However, we are not stuck in homosexuality. In Christ we are not struggling to be free, in Christ we are free to struggle. With Christ we have the power to withstand homosexual tendencies just as we fight any other sin by seeking Christ and falling at His feet.
David Marks(Quote)
GOD LOVES the homosexual enough to die for their sins which includes a homosexual lifestyle. He loves them enough to want them to repent of their sins and accept Jesus as their Lord and Savor. Carrie is deceived and lacks the Biblical knowledge which is the Final Authority on any issue, not the world’s views Read this article for the truth about what God says on the subject..
DIANE ESTES(Quote)
SO A GAY PERSON CAN’T GET IN TO HEAVEN, BUT A CHRISTIAN WHO IS ON THEIR 4TH OR 5TH MARRIAGE GO TO HEAVEN , i see a contradiction here , i would like to hear a answer from you on this one….O.K.
daniel keene(Quote)
Carrie didn’t always believe this way. I think now that she has become a celebrity she has lost sight of God’s word and is becoming the minority where the world has influenced her to believe Satan’s lies. I’m not gonna sit here and say she’s not a Christian and isn’t saved. Only God knows her heart, not us. I just pray that she and her husband will get away from the non-denominational church and back to her Baptist roots. I pray they will continue to read scripture everyday and God will show them that THAT church is not the teachings of God and his word. Satan is deceiving them and many others with the non-denominational churches growing in our country. This is all mentioned in Revelation how churches will fall in the end and I believe we are seeing this first-hand. It’s a very scary world we live in where leaders are taking God out of the Country and turning it into a Third World Country where God and Jesus are forbidden. I just hope Jesus comes before this gets worse. I pray for Carrie and her husband (as well as many others) who are being deceived by Satan will turn away from things not of Jesus Christ.
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