Eternal life comes from Jesus Christ, not “the gods.”
On November 11, 2011, the Greek mythology, sword-fighting epic, “Immortals” hit theaters. The movie tells the tale of an ancient Greek peasant named Theseus who leads an army to defend humanity from the attack of the Titans, gods of ancient Greece bent on wiping out humans. In Greek mythology the character Theseus, is most known from a story called ‘Theseus and the Minotaur’. While “Immortals” uses the character Theseus and his backstory, the plot of the film is completely different from the ancient myth. From the three theatrical trailers and numerous clips that have been released, the movie has a number of concepts that seem to be a spin on Bible scripture, the Nephilim, end-time prophecy and the role and career of the Antichrist.
The ancient battle between God and angels
The Immortals Trailer
As was the case with the movie “Legion” a film which also took its concepts from Bible prophecy and scripture and distorted it to make the fallen angels, the heroes and saviors of humanity, the Biblical concepts in ‘Immortals’ have also been altered to put fallen, evil angels in a positive light.
From the opening seconds, we see the dilemma the world is facing as the screen reads: “When Heaven can’t defend us.” The idea that God is not going to be a player in the ultimate salvation of humanity or is an enemy of humanity, is promoted in many movies (such as ‘Legion’, which we covered in a prior article, for example).
“A man chosen by the gods.” Who are the “gods” in the Bible? They are the fallen angels who in ancient times, were permitted dominion over the nations of the Earth and masqueraded as “gods.” The Bible references this era in Deuteronomy 32:
“Remember the days of old, consider the years of many generations: ask your father, and he will show you; your elders, and they will tell you. When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel. For the LORD’S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.” (Deuteronomy 32:7-9).
While the King James Version describes the division of the gentile nations as according to “the number of the children of Israel,” the Septuagint (the oldest form of the Old Testament still in existence today) has the verse differently: “When the Most High divided the nations, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the nations according to the number of the angels of God.” It was a group of angels who were given authority over the nations of the world and God, the true God, started his nation, Israel from one man, Abraham. This is why the next verse distinguishes that Israel is “God’s portion.” The nation of Israel, was literally the portion of the Earth from which God would bring forth His way of salvation of humanity who had fallen into sin and under the deception Satan of the fallen angels. God was allowing humanity a choice. Thus occult practices and paganism spread across the world, while the nation of Israel brought the light of God’s law to unbelievers.
This interpretation is further confirmed when God warned the ancient Israelites against the worship of false idols: “And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, even all the host of heaven [angels], shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.” (Deuteronomy 4:19).
“And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan.”
The Heavenly host were divided unto all nations as a part of God’s Divine plan for humanity and angels alike. And they abused this authority to present themselves falsely to humankind as gods.
The Bible is clear. The God of the Bible, who created the universe, is the only true God. The Bible uses the term “gods” many times to reference the fallen angels, created beings, who were and still deceive humanity into believing they are gods:
10 But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation. 11Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. (Jeremiah 10)
Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods. (Galatians 4:8)
So the Bible readily acknowledges “the gods” aside from the True God of the Bible. Why? Because the Biblical account is clear that the supposed “gods” of paganism were the fallen, rebellious angels. As the scriptures say, “5For all the gods of the nations are idols: but the LORD made the heavens. “ (Psalm 96). The word “idols” refers to the vain, emptiness of the false gods. The Septuagint refers to them as demons. Thus any “war of the gods” from a Biblical perspective was the war of good angels who serve God and want humanity to enter heaven and evil angels, who serve Satan and want to bring humanity into damnation. We see such a war in the book of Revelation:
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael [a holy archangel of God] and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (Revelation 12)
So there will be a war that will result in Satan and his angels being cast out of Heaven and sent to Earth. What is important to remember is that the war taking place is for the souls of humanity. Unfortunately humans have the least amount of information on this subject as we cannot view or perceive the spiritual world. This is why understanding God’s Word, the Biblical account of angelic and human interaction and the warnings about spirits are so important.
The “Gods of the Pit”
Theseus battles a hybrid Titan.The second set of “gods” who came to Earth and interacted with humanity were the evil angels who took human wives and had offspring as described in Genesis 6:
6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
For more details on these angels and their offspring, please see our article on the Nephilim. What is relevant is that this co-mingling did take place according to the Bible. The purpose of these relations was to corrupt the human gene pool and prevent the birth of the eventual Messiah who God prophesied would be born of a woman and eventually destroy Satan. In Greek mythology, the character of Theseus (the lead hero in the movie) was the offspring of a human woman and the Greek god Poseidon. So the protagonist of the Immortals film is a Nephilim.
The angels who carried out these acts were punished for these illicit relations with human women:
1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. (Jude)
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; (2 Peter Chapter 2)
Both of these passages confirm that the angels who sinned during the days of Noah were cast into confinement in hell. The word in Greek for “hell” in the passage from 2 Peter is “tartarus”.
The sinning angels are presently imprisoned there but will be released during the end times Great Tribulation, the prophesied final 7 years of the Earth before the Second Coming of Jesus Christ:
Revelation 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. 2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. 3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. 4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. 5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. 7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men. 8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions. 9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. 10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.
These supernatural, evil warriors will be unleashed (this author believes by Satan) on the Earth as part of the wrath of God on the unbelieving world during the Great Tribulation. And their King, who resides in the pit with them will be the Beast spirit that will inhabit the Antichrist. The angels that were once imprisoned will have a time to return to earth and bring violence to humanity once again. And this also ties in with the Immortals movie
“Even the Gods Need a Hero”
Trailer 2
Again just from the opening seconds we see the Biblical references abound. The war in Heaven of angelic beings taking place at some point before humanity is in line with the Bible as we see Satan for the first time in Genesis as an already evil, fallen angel. The “victors” proclaiming themselves gods is a distortion of what the Bible states, where the defeated, fallen angels masqueraded as gods. There is also a reference to the “losing angels” being imprisoned in “Mt. Tartarus” and as stated above, the place of imprisonment of the angels who sinned with human women in the book of 2 Peter is literally named tartarus. The movie is falling directly in line with the Word of God.
This image in the trailer is followed by a shot of the god Zeus falling like a star to the Earth (in similarity to Revelation 9, when the angel falls and opens tartarus to release the imprisoned evil angels). The Biblical allusions abound.
Hyperion, the villain in the film (who happens to wear a helmet that gives him 2 horns on his head like a devil-type character), is seeking to free the imprisoned evil warrior heavenly beings from Mt. Tartarus to wage war on humanity. This distorts the Biblical prophecy that those imprisoned angels will be used at a time that God determines to be freed as part of the punishment of the unbelieving world. In the film, the hero is not God Almighty and His righteous angels (the “good gods” in the film, unable to interfere in the conflict, are relegated to the sideline), but a man, Theseus endowed with supernatural power who is a Nephilim himself. He leads humanity to save themselves from doom.
In the Bible, the Antichrist, is a man who will come to be a false messiah to humanity and will be endowed with supernatural power, military ability and knowledge. He will be perceived as humanity’s savior, but in fact will be the “seed of the serpent” who will betray humanity and lead them into destruction, death and worship of himself and Satan: “Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.” (2 Thessalonians 2:9). For the false gods of this age, the Antichrist is the awaited hero they are waiting for who will restore them to prominence while helping destroy the souls of humanity.
Interestingly, the trailer says that the hero chosen by the gods “will unite us.” This is precisely what the Antichrist will achieve through a one world system of government, religion and economy (for more on this one world order, see here). He will seek to lead humanity into believing that we can save ourselves and bring ourselves into a New Age. And thus there would be no need for God. Except the Antichrist’s ultimate goal will be to proclaim himself God and force the world to worship him under penalty of death. In the movie, the villain Hyperion’s main goal is to become “immortal” and be godlike. He fails in this but Theseus, does indeed become a god at the end of the film. A final scene shows Theseus in the heavens fighting alongside hundreds of other gods. While on Earth statues are made in honor of him. Similarly, Revelation 13 details the ‘image of the Beast’, a statue or figure of the Antichrist that people of the Earth will be required to worship.
The Sibylline Oracle
The Sibylline Oracle.
More clues that the film is taking a Gnostic spin on Biblical concepts is evidenced by the character Phaedra, the female lead and love interest of the hero Theseus who is a “Sibylline oracle” (as stated in the film’s official synopsis). The Sibyls, were thought to be prophetesses in ancient Greek and Roman culture, and were infamous for uttering their prophecies in frenzied incantations. A collection of books called the Sibylline Oracles, named for their supposed prophecies, not only references the God of the Bible, it also discusses Christ, the Garden Of Eden, Noah, the flood, titans and a number of Bible verses mixed in with Greek, Roman and Jewish mythology. With respect to the judgment of evil angels, the Oracles (which were written in approximately the 7th century AD), almost takes from Bible scripture verbatim:
And deathless angels of the immortal God,
Who ever is, shall bind with lasting bonds
In chains of flaming fire and from above.
Like the Sibylline Oracles, the Immortals film borrows liberally from Biblical concepts and changes them around to suit its purposes. But the main issue remains: do not be deceived by these big budget presentations of spirituality and history. There is one supreme being who will save the world and humanity: Jesus Christ. The book of Hebrews states that God: “..Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high: 4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.. 8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.” (Hebrews 1)
Jesus created all beings and is the express image of God Almighty. He is greater than angels and the angels themselves are commanded to worship Him. He is even called “God” by God the Father. Whether it is modern-day or the end times, Jesus Christ is not on the sidelines or refusing to extend His power. He does this every day by providing salvation and forgiveness to those who believe in Him. And His message of salvation will continue into the end times, when the evil angels from above and below return. Jesus will restore order to this fallen world, defeat the Antichrist, all of the evil, fallen angels and give eternal life to all of those who believe in Him.
Another interesting (raised by one of our readers) was that the Sybilene Oracle in the movie is also wearing red. In our article on Lady Gaga’s Judas video (which can be found here), we detailed the use of the “Lady in Red” in Gnostic or Illuminati-themed movies and entertainment and explained this character appears repeatedly in different storylines. Each time the Lady in Red serves as a temptress or prostitute, who lures the hero into fornication or evil.
The Lady in Red has two other roles:
- To seduce those who are good into a new way of thinking that is against the established God and order of the world.
- To provide a pathway for her followers to obtain godhood and “liberation.”
In the film, the Oracle recruits and persuades Theseus to start the entire mission and war that leads to his godhood while at the same time, seducing him into fornication with her. She also becomes pregnant with his son, who from the final scene in the movie clearly seems to be a half-human, half-god hybrid, who possesses supernatural powers to see into the spiritual realm.
Is Zeus in the Bible?
Zeus and “the gods.”
In the film, Zeus is the good God who selects Theseus to lead the defense of humanity against Hyperion. Interestingly, there appears to be a subtle reference to Zeus in the book of Revelation (note that the book of Revelation was the last book of the Bible to be written in approximately 96 AD). In this book, John records what he heard from Jesus Christ directly. Jesus issues seven letters to Christian churches across the Middle East and writes one to the church in Pergamos:
12And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he [Jesus] which hath the sharp sword with two edges; 13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan’s seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.
“Satan’s seat” has been interpreted by many scholars to be a direct reference to the Pergamom Altar, a massive structure built in Pergamos, Greece in the 2nd Century BC as a tribute to the god Zeus. In the passage above, Jesus is identifying Zeus as Satan and the altar in Pergamos was his chief base of operation.
The Altar, which was made to resemble a throne, was built by Eumenes II, a ruler in the Seleucid empire. It is interesting to note that Eumenes II appointed Antiochus Epiphanes to rule over the Jews in Judea at that same time. Antiochus Epiphanes is infamous for the original “abomination of desolation” in which he entered the Holy Temple of Jerusalem and offered a pig as a sacrifice in honor of Zeus. This was one of the most disrespectful, satanic acts ever committed in the nation of Israel (the subsequent rescue of the temple during the Maccabean revolt and its ritual cleansing for 8 days is celebrated each year by Jewish people with the Holiday of Hanukkah). Jesus prophesied that a similar act of blasphemy against God will be performed by the Antichrist in the temple during the end times Great Tribulation. Not only will the antichrist enter the temple of God, he will declare that he is god and demand worship from the world. The Bible says he: “Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. ” (2 Thessalonians 2:4)
In 1881, German archeologists excavated the altar and purchased it from the then-ruling Ottoman Empire. To this day, it has been reconstructed and kept in the Berlin Museum. Adolph Hitler (who unbeknownst to many, was a black magic occultist) once in power decades later, was obsessed with the altar. He even had a reconstruction of the Altar built to use as the basis of the design for the Zeppelintribüne, the giant stage from which he delivered many of his speeches and led rallies.
Another interesting feature of the altar is a the Gigantomachy frieze, a 371-foot long sculptural frieze, that runs along the base of the altar, depicting the war of Zeus, with an army of half-human giants, fighting against his father and the older gods. The Biblical parallels are again apparent as Satan has used the Nephilim giants in the war against his father and the creator of all angels and humanity, The Lord God of the Bible. The frieze even depicts the giants as being part-serpent, hinting at their evil ancestry and purpose. So again, we can see that far from ignoring the gods of antiquity, the Bible identifies them for their true nature and warns sternly against worshiping or even interacting with them.
Ancient sculptures of the gods fighting with giants.
The Release Date
The movie has heavily promoted its release date of “11/11/11” (for more on the occult significance of this date see here). Interestingly, in the Bible the number 11 is a number associated with the Antichrist. In Daniel’s vision of the final world kingdom before the Second Coming of Christ, a group of 10 Kings or rulers control the governments of the world. They are represented as horns on a giant beast. And then an 11th horn rises up in their place. That 11th horn is the Antichrist:
After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. (Daniel 7:7-8)
This vision is explained in the book of Revelation when the Apostle John sees the same beast:
And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns… And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. (Revelation 17)
The horns are the 10 end times rulers who will be heading governments prior to the arrival of the Antichrist, who will be the 11th “king.”
In the occult, the number 11 holds the same traits. In “The Occult Power of Numbers” by W. Wynn Westcott, says this with respect to numbers: ‘Numbers are a key to the ancient views of cosmogony … spiritually as well as physically … to the evolution of the present human race; all systems of religious mysticism are based upon numerals. The sacredness of numbers …” Westcott goes on to describe the number 11 as “so 11 is the essence of all that is sinful, harmful, and imperfect.” (p. 100).
The True Final Battle of The Gods
There is indeed going to be one more battle among the angelic realm and God – the battle of Armageddon. The Bible prophesies that the Antichrist will gather armies from among the nations of the world to wage war against Jesus Christ Himself. It will be the last ditch effort of “the gods” to hold onto the power that they were temporarily granted from God. But their time will be up. And they will all be defeated quickly.
“11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he [Jesus] that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. …. 19And I saw the beast [the Antichrist], and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth..” (Revelation 19)
The Battle of Armageddon is not much of a battle at all. At Jesus’ appearance the armies of Satan will be wiped out. Jesus Christ, His believers and His good, Holy Angels will then re-establish peace and righteousness on Earth. This is the true, Biblical outcome of the war of the gods.
Conclusion
While cloaked in Greek mythology, the Immortals film seems to be much more of a tale that puts its own spin on the war between God and His Holy Angels and Satan and his army of demons right out of the Bible. Except they leave out the crucial points: that God created the angels and Jesus Christ will return at His Second Coming with His Holy Angels to defeat Satan, the Antichrist and all of their armies. As entertainment fills the void of spirituality for many people today, it can be a powerful tool to influence society into many false spiritual beliefs. The increasing fascination with the occult, angels, contacting spirits and Gnosticism is a direct result of the big-budget movies, books and music of the past decade. Christians should take heed to the increasing numbers of films that, like the Gnostic Gospels or the DaVinci code, seek to deceive about basic Biblical ideas and concepts. Know the truth and share it. The preparation of humanity to welcome the return of “the gods” is underway. It is time to start preparing the world to welcome Jesus Christ, the true hero and Savior, instead.
I think beginningandend did a great job! explaining the real mean of The Immortals the movie,but i don’t agree what was said about the Nephlim (giants) The phrase “son of God” is used of faithful followers of God (Deut.14:1,32:2 Lk 3:38 Romans 8:14 Gal 3:26. It is used of faithful angles but not wicked angles (Job 1:6,2:1,38:7 Dan 3: 25. Therefore the expession wouldn’t be applicable to rebellious angles as some have suggested in connection with Jube1:6, and note the context of Genesis Chapter 6, man was wicked not angle(Gen 6:5)
Seth originated the spiritual seed of God (Gen 4:25-26) thus his descendants would have been called the “son of God”. Abraham is a descendent of Seth througth who Christains are called “son of God ” (Gal 3: 26-29) The son of God ,therefore in Gen 6:4) were the descendent of Seth
Athough there is not a record in scripture at some point, God had apparently commanded that the spiritual seed (descendants) be ketp pure (Gen 6:2,4,9) This would have been similar to the practice of the patriarchs (Gen 34) and God’s command to Israel ( Ex 23:32-33;34:16). The Nephilim is the resulting offspring of the sons of God s (Seth decendants) sinful intermarriages with the sons of men (Gen 6:4).www.biblestudyguide.org
Hey Vonnie. Thanks for the kind words It’s much appreciated. Regarding the “sons of God” being descendants of Seth, this is a good, valid objection. I would recommend you check out the article on the Nephilim, where I go more in depth on the my reasons for believing the sons of God are angelic beings and see what you think.
well, i don’t tend to post but I feel obligated. beginning and end, you have little knowledge apart from your own beliefs, this argument need not go any further than the fact that greek mithology preceeds christianity by hundreds of years, now if that is a reason to dismiss its relevance the new testament should be too. See the new testament and all accounts of Jesus [edited] were committed to parchment close to one hundred years after the fat, no one that wrote about Jesus ever met him…or Zeus for that matter. In fact I post a challenge, give me 5 non related events from humanity’s past and I will prove to you I can explain them using any sacred text from any religion in a way that makes total sense and with proof! I have spent my life studying religion and I am an ordained baptist minister, and now a devout atheist. I read these sites to learn but this one oozes of ignorance, self indulgment and narcissism. Please educate yourself completely in other religions before making uneducated analogies and false statements. And to set the record straight, you are all atheists like me, I just believe in one less god, the most recent one…or do you believe in zeus, apollo, hera, gaia, sheba, krishna, mithra, poseidon, venus, hades, etc, etc, etc. Didn’t think so. and one more thing, I read here somewhere in the comments that there is proof of jebus’ excistence… Where? There is not one single shred of proof that Jesus was a real man, much less a messiah, but there are thousands of historical writings that show that jebus was a character in all civilizations, under names such as, jesus, mithra, horus, dyonesus, odin, krishna, etc. BTW, all of these writings precede your old and new testament by hundreds even thousands of years, the bible is plagiarism. Again I offer my undivided attention and challenge any pro god scholar, prove me wrong!
Hi Dr. O,
Thanks so much for your response. I have actually been working on some articles just on the topics you bring up, so I wholeheartedly accept your challenge. I will provide an article on the site that addresses the question of Jesus’ existence, plagiarism, Jesus being a riff on other gods, etc. So I hope you return to read it because I would love to know your thoughts. I am also going to be starting a new section on the site for Atheists and skeptics where you can enter questions like these, so be on the look out for that as well. I look forward to continuing our discussion. God bless.
i am glad and look forward to spilling the truth cup on the last supper table
You think that just because you have studied you know everything. You are all puffed up in your pride. Trying to proof eachother wrong, so what, then what. There will never be an end, you will just keeping going trying to proof eachother wrong. Yeah you may be an atheist, but that don’t matter, you know why? because you are not an atheist, you believe in something otherwise what the freak are you doing writing things in here if you don’t believe in God.
Hi Dr. O,
Well, as promised here is the article on the Gospel account of Jesus Christ NOT being a copy of Horus, Mithras or other pagan gods. I hope you enjoy it.
https://beginningandend.com/jesus-copy-horus-mithras-dionysis-pagan-gods/
Every once in a while, some self-proclaimed intellectual comes along and regurgitates the old mithra canard.
They claim to have done the research that disproves Christianity and yet fail to realise this has been raised and disproven numerous times throughout the years.
Beginning and End has silenced this one, but if Jesus tarries His return, another will take his place…
Vonnie, you are incorrect, in both Genesis 6 and Job chapter one the Hebrew word describing the Son’s of God is Bene Elohim, literally Son’s of God, nowhere in all of the holy Bible are these words EVER used to describe mankind in any way, research it for yourself. It wasn’t men that Satan went to stand before God with, it was angelic beings, official title in hebrew, ‘Bene Elohim’ Son’s of God. That line of Seth was just a theology that came about later because many in the church couldn’t accept that what had transpired before the flood(and after mind you) was actually the intermingling of angelic beings and humans. Research it in as many languages as you can, why would the Holy Spirit make a difference between Son’s of God, and daughters of men. Why did the Holy Spirit make mention in Gen 6:9 that NOAH was perfect in his generations, the Hebrew here is speaking directly to his humanity, not Noah’s spiritual seed. So what, the so called line of Seth men went and grabbed daughters of who, Cain? and their offspring produced giants and men of renown? The spiritual seed line went and involved themselves with the fallen human side? So who would have been left? Where do you think the Annakim, the Rephaim, the ancestors of Goliath and his brothers came from? Was Goliath not an actual Giant, but just big man? If you really need some proof, research fully the Jewish Kabbalah and what it has to say about who these Jewish mystics conjure up and what their history is.
Hope this helps, have fun in your research.
Firstly, great article! The idea that the Pagan gods of Old are actually fallen angels has intrigued me ever since I read John Milton’s Paradise Lost, in which Lucifer’s lieutenants become the false gods of the majority of mankind.
The main reason for my comment however, is that I was wondering if you are aware of the “Lady in Red” motif that appears quite often in Hollywood and the Mass Media? I noticed that you put the picture of “Phaedra” up, the fortune teller/mystic/oracle from the film, and it immediately struck me that she is clad in a beautiful red dress! In Occultic circles, the Lady in Red is a symbol of forbidden knowledge, she represents the seduction to the “dark arts” and to giving into temptation and sin. there is a great article about her at:
http://www.holyghostinthemachine.com/page/lady-gagas-judas-spreading?xg_source=activity
Anyways, I just figured I’d pass that information along!
Hi Citizen,
Thank you very much for your comments. I am really glad you enjoyed the article.
Ironically, I wrote that Lady Gaga article you provided a link to (whoever runs that site did not put the link to my site or its name at the beginning of the article, it’s only at the bottom). You can find it here. So yes, I am very familiar with the Lady in Red theme in these movies, especially when they take a Gnostic-like spin on the Bible. And when I saw the Sybillene Oracle in Immortals, that also came to mind! Glad to see that I was not the only one thinking that. I may add a section to the Immortals article referencing that. Thanks again and God bless.
Hi Beginning and End,
There were two more images that I caught in the movie that you might be interested in referencing.
At one point when the four oracles are praying, they are praying upon a black and white checkered floor which is used in Freemasonry today and comes from Egyptian mystery religions.
The other image I noticed, was at one point when Hyperion is in his base of operations, he’s standing in front of a wall that has a large upside down cross-shaped hole in it which is blatantly satanic.
Beginning and end, I think this is such a great article and analysis of this movie. I knew right from the start just looking at the movie title and release date what its message was going to be about–the antichrist and yet another ploy to win over more souls for Satan. I appreciate your in depth look at the Nephilim and have always wondered about the true meaning of that. I can certainly understand that many pieces of information have been deliberately left out of the Bible obviously because God wanted it that way, and in mankind’s quest for knowledge, some knowledge is forbidden knowledge we are better off not knowing. As in the example of Adam & Eve once they ate of the fruit of the forbidden tree, they immediately had knowledge of their nakedness whereas they were happy as larks beforehand. All of a sudden they were stripped of the cloak of ignorance is bliss, in my opinion, so nakedness would be a good analogy…..I am also wondering about all this DNA nonsense the world has been introduced to in recent years, including artificial insemination, invitro, test tube babies, cloning, genetic modification of plants, animals and humans, and the like. This makes me wonder too if in fact this cross breeding (obviously not of God, so it has to be of Satan) is yet another method by which Satan will infiltrate the human line and create a type of serpent seed line. We see trace of this in the beliefs of Freemasonry and Illuminati coming from the line of Cain, etc. This is all so overwhelming, I only pray that God intervenes soon. Humans are so stupid and naive, and I truly believe that Christ called Himself the Good Shepherd and us His sheep knowing full well that we are inclined to temptation. I will read your take on the Nephilim. Thanks for such a great article. I will pass this on to many to keep their families away from this movie. Anyone not seriously versed in end times prophecy and Biblical knowledge will definitely be swayed by this, which is the whole purpose of this trash excuse for entertainment.
Hi AnnMarie,
Thanks so much for your commends. I think you are on to something with regards to the modern day DNA experimentation and research that takes place today. After all when it comes to Genome sequencing etc., the work is really trying to create and manipulate life — again usurping the role of God. For more on this, check out this article on human animal hybrids.
https://beginningandend.com/uk-labs-150-human-animal-hybrids/
God bless.
Great, article! God bless you! I’ve done some research also, I’ve recently read an article that stated there is two groups of fallen angels that are constantly at war. A little confused, Watchers are the so called aliens that make appearances in ufos correct? I’ve seen on you tube NASA videos of ufos shooting at each. Not sure if youtube should count as valid,but it kind of confirmed the article I’ve read. Do you have any knowledge of this? Sorry no references.
Hey BMOCAREFUL,
I have seen those UFO videos and it’s hard to say or know what is exactly true or not when it comes to alien sightings and footage such as that on youtube. But there are definitely many members of the Air Force and NASA who have now come on camera to speak about UFO encounters and that I do think is reliable. At the end of the day, it is this author’s belief that all of these encounters are with inter-dimensional beings, as in the spirit world. The Watchers are a term for angelic beings that is used in Daniel Chapter 4. However, other groups use the term “watchers” as well to refer to alien life, spirit guides etc.
For more on the alien/demonic connection, see here:
https://beginningandend.com/abcs-v-season-2-alien-deception-continues-2/
This article sucks! you compare biblical worldview with greek methology and mish mash all the contents! why cant you just get some popcorn and enjoy the movie rather than interpret according to your narrowheaded minds!
Benita, you are way off base. If anything compares the Bible to Greek & Roman mythology it is THE MOVIE. If you are into theology and world religions, you will understand all false religions are almost exactly the same, and that the “players” or “false gods” just have different names. Every culture puts a little something else into the mix. It is still all false. This movie, to those who study theology, spins a web of just a spoon full of sugar helps the medicine (or poison) go down, in the most delightful way. You will see how they make the antichrist look like the Messiah, which is exactly what the Bible tells us will happen in the end days, which we are living in right now. Do not just eat your popcorn and enjoy the movie, that what they are counting on…..you washing it down with a little “kool-aid”, just like the Obummers do.
that movie sucked a–!!!!
Everything about this article is true. A movie release means the end of the world is just around the corner.
This is the age of Heros and standing up for what is right and going against the wave of evil. Not only in the world but also to have the virtue of a hero in our daily life and making good decisions. Heroic decisions of good morals and judgment for the greater good!
Wow nice job this just reinforces my belife that all those pagan gods of old were really fallen angels and their offspring were nephilim giants just like when god gets angry in the bible for ppl worshipping the so called queen of heaven aka hera the greek pagan fallen angel who struts around as a god.
Thanks for the great article. Talking about wierd things in the world today and patterns from Greek mythology: I find in interesting that the 12th and final labor of Hercules includes the release of Theseus from Hades. This is interesting because some people believe that the events starting with the fall of the twin towers on 9/11 and ending with the fall of Libya during operation “Odyssey Dawn” (think birthplace of athena) mirrored the 11th labor. I just thought that if there was some merit to the theory we would soon be seeing events that call the mind the 12th labor and here you have it. So on 11/11/11 we see Theseus released again, this time onto the big screen. I wish I could just watch this, relax and eat some popcorn, but with the Middle East probably getting ready to erupt in war (descend into “h”) thanks to the machinations of certain crazies, I just can’t since “h” would be where Hercules went on his 12th labor and appears to unfortunately be where certain deranged minds want the whole world to go. And yes, this movie appears to be yet another way to accomplish the mass patterning of the minds of the masses for the arrival of the antichrist. The plots and spells of the ancient pagan priests continue. Fortunately God Almighty is still in control and His praying church is here in this world, but for how much longer will HE hold the evil back before HE allows the church age to end and begins HIS work of reuniting Israel to Himself?
Janet,
I wonder if this 12th and final labor parallels or equates to Ahmadinejad’s pronouncing of the coming of the Islamic 12th Imam. Muslims believe that all this slaughter and bloodshed of infidels (that would be us Christians) will enhance the coming of the 12th Imam sooner. Their 12th Imam is our equivalent of the antichrist…..I have also done a lot of research on the Muslims building that mosque at Ground Zero in NYC. It is interesting to note that they call this “al-Geruhah” which means “the portal.” My question is, the portal to what, hell? The portal by which the antichrist will unleash hell on earth? There is Christian prophecy which states that there will again be a 3 days of darkness on the earth just like there was in the Old Testament. In the end days, during these 3 days of darkness, every devil and demon from hell will be unleased onto the earth. The people of God are to stay indoors, windows & doors covered and shut, praying and keeping themselves pure. There will be no power, no light, no heat, no modern convenience. The only source of light will be blessed candles which can only be lit by a person of pure heart. It appears this will probably happen soon. All the signs are coming fast. And Obama is moving at warp speed to corrupt society more quickly. He has very little time left. This country is on the road to perdition the way Satan wants it. Obama and his minions are hastening the false prophet & Satan’s arrival. We need to be prepared as Christ said, and always watch and heed the signs…..God bless all His people.
Obama and his minions are hastening the false prophet & Satan’s arrival. We need to be prepared as Christ said, and always watch and heed the signs…..God bless all His people.
it’s funny you should mention that my dear lol
In Luke 10:18 Jesus states, “I beheld Satan as Lightning fall from Heaven.”
the hebrew word for lightning is Baraq
and Bama means heavenly or sky
and Hussein is diminutive of Hassan which means handsome or good looking
so his full name Barack Hussein Obama would translate fully as “Beautiful heavenly lightning” but then again Barack was a soldier featured in Judges 4:6 who assisted the prophetess Deborah to win a battle despite insurmountable odds.
it does give food for thought but it could all just be coincidence.
Fantastic review, it is incredible the pace at which spread these devilish doctrines through the media, a precursor to the event itself.
Hello Beginning and End,
Great work on this article! I thought I might add another nugget
about the release date that I’m sure you have already noticed,
but just in case.
If you add up the three 11s it equals 33 which is a big time occult
number especially in Freemasonry. I constantly see that number
in all this propaganda Satan is using.
Do you have any thoughts?
Hey Peter — Thanks for the kind words. And as far as the number 33, I think you make an excellent point. 33 is indeed a widely revered and respected number in the occult mysteries. It is a degree of mastery in Freemasonry. It is also seen as a master number for divination. Manly P. Hall called 33 a “sacred number” and basically one of the keys to understanding Pythagorean and Kabbalistic mysteries. Jerusalem, Israel also happens to sit on the 33rd parallel on a map, along with Roswell New Mexico. And then in the Bible, there is also significance as Jesus died at 33 years, King David ruled in Jerusalem for 33 years and other examples.
So in short, you make a great observation! Thanks for pointing that out.
loser point of view i guess….it just a movie, can you dont spoil the fun?
i believe Jesus, but Zeus is a myth that human created…thats all.
go get a life please!
Thx for sharing this with us, i saw the movie and was so shocked!
Didn’t see that coming…
I marked one thing during the movie too..
The virgins with the oracle were killed in ‘the beast’. The beast is some kind of ox , don’t know the English word. They fight it for fun in Spain. However, they were burnt to death within that beast and the smoke of their burning flesh came out of his nose. It was not a living animal it was made. It maded me think of the passage in the bible where Moses came off the mountain with the words of god , his commands , but Israel made themselves other gods. They made THIS animal. Remarkable, right?
I have to admire you for putting so much time and thought into your opinion, but I will now respectfully disagree. Being both a Christian and a scholar of ancient history, I can affirm that there are many, many more parallels in Greek and Hebrew cultures than you seem to realize, and they are independent of one another. While this movie did not follow the mythology line of Theseus all that closely, it certainly was not purposefully pulling things from Christian mythology. As for the number 11 being significant…that’s a bunch of nonsense. 11/11/11 is just an awesome number because all 6 digits won’t be the same like that again in our lifetimes. I think you’re reading too much into everything.
I also take offense at you saying that all “false” gods and religions are the same while excluding Christianity from it. It’s not fair to make generalizations like that. What you can say is that the Judaeo-Christian God is different from other gods because he was not the embodiment of some natural phenomenon. You shouldn’t dismiss other cultures without knowing what they’re about. It gives Christians a bad name. I knew a very sweet and intelligent woman who was married to a minister and was very involved in her church who believed in the Greek gods because, as she would say, “Athena is wisdom.” The gods were not so much the Christian God pluralized, but embodiments of whatever they represented.
Thank you for your comment it was an eye opener for me being a born again christian. After watching. That movie it left a bittersweet taste in my mouth. I just know that I want to read my bible because I’m in the dark about the fallen angels and other symbols in the movie. But what struck me the most about hthis movie is fact that people ought to believe in a higher being jus like the saying that goes if you don’t believe in something you will fall for anything. I was amazed when Zeus dnt kill his daughter just like he killed the other guy that was a hyprocritcal move. I was also confused with the role of his daughter and the protagonist because I thought he was portrayed like he was Jesus but I think they took that whole thing of the Da Vinci code of Jesus having had sexual intercourse with Mary Magadalene. But I’m not sure whether they had a son like in the movie Immortals. On the other hand the role of the Oracle the virgin in the red dress when she had sex with the protagonist my heart sunk because her purity helped them by her being able to get vision. I thought after she had sex she would get distorted images and that her visions would mislead them. But I wanted to knw where she was during the war I thought that the guy who was portrayed as Satan would battle with the protagonist so he does nt rape her. But I’m glad the director did nt take that angle because would have become a typical love story. But all in all the movie kept me on my toes as it has made me believe in God more because I actually loved it when zeus came down and told the protagonist that the battle is no longer his and its like in 2Chronicles 20 :19 where God tells king that the battle is not his but its the Lord. In same token I understood why zeus killed that other angel because he believed in the protagonist because he was equipped with all the skills to fight in that battle. So it reinforced the power we possess as human beings and how God trust that we can go through anything and still come out as being strong.
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Thank you for your comment it was an eye opener for me being a born again christian. After watching. That movie it left a bittersweet taste in my mouth. I just know that I want to read my bible because I’m in the dark about the fallen angels and other symbols in the movie. But what struck me the most about hthis movie is fact that people ought to believe in a higher being jus like the saying that goes if you don’t believe in something you will fall for anything. I was amazed when Zeus dnt kill his daughter just like he killed the other guy that was a hyprocritcal move. I was also confused with the role of his daughter and the protagonist because I thought he was portrayed like he was Jesus but I think they took that whole thing of the Da Vinci code of Jesus having had sexual intercourse with Mary Magadalene. But I’m not sure whether they had a son like in the movie Immortals. On the other hand the role of the Oracle the virgin in the red dress when she had sex with the protagonist my heart sunk because her purity helped them by her being able to get vision. I thought after she had sex she would get distorted images and that her visions would mislead them. But I wanted to knw where she was during the war I thought that the guy who was portrayed as Satan would battle with the protagonist so he does nt rape her. But I’m glad that goodness prevailed over evil.
As a student (and professor of) Classical history and mythology, you know absolutely nothing about what you are ranting. The Gods and Titans are directly from Greek mythology, as is Theseus and the Minotaur. The movie was garbage, but the characters are in no way ‘Satan,’ which by the way, is originally a Hebrew angel, not your Devil figure. He was not ‘fallen,’ that’s a Christian myth. Your labeling of Greek myth as a ‘false religion’ belies your ignorance and hypocrisy. Every religion is true to those who worship it and false to everyone else. Your Christianity is as false, as Jesus in no way portrayed himself as ‘God.’ But instead of studying religion for what it is, you study what you want to BELIEVE. Personal belief and history do not generally coincide. Read the Old Testament without interpolating Christian myths. And read Greek mythology if you want an opinion on it. If you have no knowledge on the subject, keep your mouth shut.
So what is your point? Are you vouching for atheism?
J if you are such a scholar, then you would be fully aware that in all four Holy Bible gospels Jesus most definitively states that HE is the Son of God and that He is God, anyone who had read the Gospel of John would see that he CLEARLY stated this. YOUR statement shows that you haven’t taken the time to read the source itself before making an absent minded comment. Nothing personal, but if this is the apex of your study and scholarship you might want to consider another line of work. It seems you are repeating someone else’s bad scholarship and making it your own opinion. You really should take your own advice and not comment about something you obviously haven’t ever read. This makes you very hypocritical, opinionated, but clearly making uneducated, unstudied and un-referenced non factual statements. Satan is simply a title, for your information, this covering angel who rebelled against the LORD is named Lucifer, the name of Satan is in reference to what he does before the LORD, he accuses, therefore he receives the title of Satan, which is ACC– USER. I would really like to hear you back up your statement of ‘Personal belief and history do not generally coincide’. That is THE most generalized ridiculous statement I have ever heard a person make especially one who calls themselves a student and professor of ‘Classical’ history and mythology. EVERY Greek author wrote with a personal bent on their writings, every historian does. They wrote it from THEIR view, just like most history is written. Does this make it always completely accurate and correct, no, not at all, but that is how it is done non the less. You just expressed YOUR personal views about the subject, so what, every one else isn’t entitled to theirs? You need to go find somewhere else to be silly.
this movie is about greek myth ok I saw only some trailers but for me as an interested one to movies about greek mythology,after reading reviews and seeing trailers i understood that this movie does not worth to see since of its shallow understanding of other cultures,races and beliefs and the myth itself
this movie is absolutely misusing a myth to humiliate holy symbols, numbers of other cultures.
Wtf are you insane? this about the greek gods not the book of lies. you people make me wish i was never born….
uhh, this movie is about greek myth, not the bible!! and in case you failed history at school, the greeks pre date jebus. the ancient greeks and their mythology are around several hundred years before your precious ‘son of god’ is thought to have lived, and long before he was even a thought in his cheating mother’s eye. and by the way, there is no evidence from jebus’ own lifetime to attest his existence. the first time he is mentioned, is several hundred years after he is thought to be born!
if anything is taking from stories, the christian elements you are recognising in this movie are obviously greek myths and legends, that christianity has ‘borrowed’ and integrated into their culture.
grow up and educate yourselves you bible thumping weirdo’s.
You obviously have no clue what you are saying. Speaking of history, to say Jesus didn’t exist is like saying Alexander the Great didn’t exist. There is more historical proof for Jesus and the Bible than ever before. Your claim might have been able to hold it’s weight hundreds of years ago, but in 2011 the argument whether Jesus really existed or not is a “moot point.” You are telling us to educate ourselves, but based on your claims I think it is obvious you need to do some studying yourself. Go study the works of Josephus and that should give you a little better grip on reality.
Jesus did exist, but he was not a ” God.” He was made a ” GOd” by COnstantine.
Blasphemy !
I just watched Immortals this afternoon with my mythology students.We’re Christians.The last scene reminded me of the Battle of Armaggedon in the book of Revelation.This thought was confirmed in your article.There are some significant statements said in the film which are significant. “All truths are God’s truths.” This is what I learned from my master of divinity .course.So I believe God can use this “secular” movie to speak to us as a warning, reminder, exhortation and other important spiritual and practical matters.
I strongly disagree with everything your saying. You are cutting and pasting bible quotes without looking at the entire picture. The bible is is greek mythology and is all metaphorical. The Bible was transformed into myths after the nicene Creed. Yeah, Immortals have some biblical aspects in it; because the bible is made up of a bunch of myths.
Dude, you obviously have no clue what you are talking about. Whoever feeds you this information is badly misleading you.
Great article!
I sat through this movie and all I could think about was how it was such a clear and obvious allegory for what is about to come over this earth. I was very happy to see that I wasn’t the only one who saw through the false Nephilim Alien Gospel preached in this movie.
Dont let any of the naysayers bother you, keep up your work of educating people! Not everyone has the eyes to see the truth behind this paradigm shift we are about to go through. I mourn for our world, and the suffering we will see. Im glad there are still believers in Jesus Christ speaking the truth.
But on another note, what an amazing time to be alive! To see the ancient prophesies come to pass! I dont wish ill on anyone, but seeing history in the making is truly remarkable.
Amen and Amen! Thanks for the comment.
Well I saw the movie and read this article mostly in skips since I didn’t feel like reading it all. And sincerely, I think you might be looking too much into something that is not there. I believe they just wanted to make a good movie with special effects, they failed with the story though.
I agree there might be some biblical references in there but people add stuff from other stories, twisted in their own form, all the time.
Also, I’ve been thinking about the end of the world for a while now, and I came to a simple conclusion: This event has been expected since the day the prophecy was ever created. Literally, during war, turmoil or oppression people believe the end of the world is coming because they can’t comprehend loosing the perfect little world they built around them. War and chaos destroy your world when it lingers in the air and you can’t help but feel some biblical ending approaching. So, my thoughts about this is that it’s probably not going to happen any time soon. Maybe it will some day, or maybe its purpose was to convince us to be patient and wait for an end that would never come instead of trying to end the world ourselves.
Lastly, God’s plan. Are we sure he has a plan? If we are supposed to have free will, then why is there a plan? If our lives were supposed to be free then why must there be guidelines that we must absolutely follow? This might just be the sleep talking in me, but how can we be free and at the same time chained to destiny or fate that it’s all part of the plan?
My answer to that is that WE(the people, our ancestors) are the ones that created the term ‘plan’ in order to help feel relief for all the pain and suffering of our lives. Because whether we believe it or not, life is hard and it was a lot harder back then. People hungered and suffered from diseases, innocent people were homeless and women treated like possessions, so naturally they wondered “why?”. Why did they have to suffer while others lived in luxury, why the pain, why the suffering, they were basically too impatient and most people act very violently and hateful when they give to despair. So, the priests they confessed to invented the term ‘plan’, more specifically ‘God’s plan’ for every person and promised them that their suffering was justified and rewards would come to them in the end, the purpose? To give people more faith and patience, to not act in despair, it works so well. You feel like you just got a glimpse into your future, like watching a trailer for a movie and can’t wait to see how it all turns out.
God maybe just created us to live freely according to our own lives and wishes but we got so mixed up in all these ideas that we lost track of what was really important, and only believe what we want to see not what it is.
Hi,
I just stumbled on your website. Great stuff!! I’m not that educated in any of this bible theology stuff so I basically have to reluctantly take you at your word for most of it until I find support from other scholars or my own study (no offense). You seem pretty well educated so I guess i’m not THAT hesitant to lend these words some credence.
Anyway, on to the reason for my post. Regarding the purpose of the fallen angels having relations with the daughters of men, you mentioned above and on the more detailed post about Nephilim that, “…[t]he purpose of these relations was to corrupt the human gene pool and prevent the birth of the eventual Messiah who God prophesied would be born of a woman and eventually destroy Satan.” This is a really interesting idea that makes a lot of sense given Satan’s track record BUT I feel like you need to support this with scripture, especially since saying this about Satan without support from scripture kind of makes it seem like you are claiming to know the plans of celestial beings. knowledge which, unless expressed through the word of God, is beyond your knowing it and would therefore (I think) qualify as “vain babblings” as discussed in 2 Timothy 2.
Also, I know this goes on the Nephilim post but i don’t want to comment twice, could you explain more about how Genesis 3:15 talks about the relationship between the fallen angels and mankind? because I feel like you were onto something but didn’t quite get there, or maybe I just completely missed it. Either way, I would really appreciate a further explanation of this. Thanks!
Leon
Try reading the Bible instead of reading about the Bible and I guarantee that you will find out just how wrong you are. Try these scriptures (well before Constantine) for example:
http://www.thewhyman.jesusanswers.com/custom2.html
While a fervent Evangelical Christian….this movie is not cloaked in Greek Mythology. It “IS” Greek Mythology. You just spun it in a way you could use it which is nice but not really the truth. What you are saying is that the Bible “parallels” Greek Mythology…well that may not be exactly what you said but that’s how it will be taken to some. Just my cup of tea. Nice article otherwise.
i wount write a thesis on the picture immortals i will just say it is the best movie i have ever seen,i would like to see the 2nd go back and see how the gods and immortals fought their battle and how they got enslaved,then the 3rd the son fighting to save man again,could be for me up their with the best pictures hollywood has made [my opinion] cant wait but i dont evan know if their is going to be more evan after the end of 1st i would like to see a prequal 1st then the last 1 thanks
i think immortals is prob the best picture iv’e seen,i would like the second to be a prequal to show us the how the gods defeted the titans and caged them,then the 3rd where the son saw his visions and it looked epic and that could rap 1 of the truley greatest trilogy’s ever made judging on the 1st
thank you for making this picture and god speed on making i hope another 2.
THE REAL QUESTION EVERYONE SHOuD BE ASKING IS WHERE DID IT ALL BEGIN, for why are concerned about he future of our existence when we no one knows or asked about the true begginning.
We must learn to walk before we run.
The truth can only be revealed once the source is located?
I’m amazed, I have to admit. Rarely do I encounter a blog that’s both educative and interesting,
and let me tell you, you’ve hit the nail on the head. The issue is something not enough people are speaking intelligently about. I am very happy that I came across this during my hunt for something relating to this.
We cannot compare Christian beliefs and ancient greek beliefs. I watch this movie for entertainment not to be assessed. LOL.
On my own assumption, olympus gods might just be immortals with exceptional powers but they are not the real god. I also cannot say that these olympus gods are actually fallen angels and no one knows for certain. There is a lot of things we don’t know about spiritual world because it’s vast and dangerous to actually touch it.
Hi The Terrible,
Well there is nothing wrong with watching a movie for entertainment. There is no requirement to read this article with the movie. I believe that was your own choice, right? lol.
In all seriousness, this article is sharing the Bible’s perspective on this entire history. The main Greek god is mentioned in Scripture so it’s not as if Christianity ignores the ancient Greek pantheon. It in fact explains it quite clearly. It is up to you to decide if you want to believe the Bible or not. You acknowledged the existence of the spiritual world and it’s dangers. That is very astute of you. So I would only encourage you to study the Bible with an open mind and heart and see that it answers these issues and the most pressing problem all of humanity is facing: that we are all sinners and we are all going to die. Rather than teach people that through certain steps or rituals we can turn ourselves into “immortals”, Christianity tells the truth: we are not gods. We are in fact rotten, vile sinners (this author definitely included) who rightly deserve hell for the thousands of times we have chosen to willingly violate God’s Holy law in thought, word or deed. And there is nothing we can do about it. Which is why God had to provide the solution. Which He did, by sending Jesus Christ, The Son of God, God in the flesh, to die for us and take the punishment for our sins on the cross.
This is the message of the Bible. This is how we receive immortality. Through faith in Jesus. And this article wants to clear up much of the spiritual confusion in the world and point people to the one way to receive eternal life. The Bible is clear: “whosoever shall call upon the name of The Lord shall be saved.” I hope you consider God’s offer.
How to Get To Heavem
https://beginningandend.com/how-to-get-to-heaven/
Hi love the article.
I couldnt help but to notice one thing about Dr Os comment, and that was he said that no one that ever wrote about christ ever met him. This confuses me because what were the disciples then. They actually walked, talked, worshiped with the lord. How do you figure that no one ever met him, to me this makes no sense and i think a man of knowlage as your self is in fact mis lead in some way. For you to once be a minister and now an unbeliever also puzzles me, but that is a different argument for another day. as for begining and end liked the article, it does get one thinking about things good job
I like how you put things beginning and end.. and Mike good job of putting it to dr. O is it.. people that refute the bible it have issues with its validity are allowed their opinions but the thing is not to allow them to dissuade you from what you feel as real and relevant to you.as many can argue this and that and in the end we must come to terms with what does one really know other than what had been passed down thru the ages.. but as prior would try to invalidate the bible and what is in it is like saying Israel didn’t exist time never existed pilot and the others never existed etc.. let’s be real good can you say that?? I for one believe.. and God bless you all on your own journey to understanding.. but until the end you will have those trying to turn you away from the righteous path and true living God as had been predicted and prophesied.. look at the world we live in today the madness the wars the ignorance the hate and malice the sexual deviance and the removal of God from every facet.. to have humanity fall into a never ending decaying of behavior and morals…as many are turned and lead away for various of reasons many i believe because of not wanting to be held accountable for their own wants and actions as a child tries to escape punishment for misdeeds and rebellion against authority or parental guidance so has man…
Once again GOD bless you all on your journey..
It’s funny how people use the bible to justify everything from explaining the pagan beliefs that came long before Christianity was invented to why they should commit murder. Reality is ancient peoples invented religion to explain a world they did not understand. Clinging to those beliefs now just indicates a lack of education and/or common sense.
Hi Martin,
Thanks for your comments. I wanted to respond to one point you made:
Where is your evidence to support this claim? -B&E