Is Jesus The Angel of The Lord? Does Jesus Christ Appear In The Old Testament? What Was Jesus Doing During Old Testament Times?- A Biblical Study
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. – Jesus Christ, John 5:39.
When Jesus Christ made the statement above, the “scriptures” at the time consisted solely of the Old Testament. And it raises a question that is often asked in the church – where is Jesus Christ in The Old Testament? Was Jesus sitting in Heaven just observing the world during the time of the Old Testament or was He actively interacting with humanity and appearing all throughout the Scriptures? This article will show that Jesus Christ indeed appears throughout the Old Testament and that the concept of God existing in more than one person was well-understood in ancient Jewish culture. And the mysterious Angel of The Lord, featured in the Old Testament, is indeed the Savior, Jesus Christ.
The Testimony of Jesus Christ Himself
No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. – John 1:18.
Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father. – John 6:46.
These two verses alone provide compelling Biblical evidence that Jesus Christ physically appears in the Old Testament. In both verses above The Lord Jesus Christ quite clearly states that no man has ever seen God The Father except for Him. Thus it would automatically follow that any physical appearance by God in the Old Testament was not God the Father and thus was The Son, Jesus Himself. But this study will look at many examples to provide further proof of this.
Abraham Meets God Before the Judgment of Sodom and Gomorrah
Genesis 18 is an amazing chapter of Scripture. Abraham, the father of what would become the children of Israel, and heir to the promise that his lineage would bring forth the Messiah, met The Lord in person. Prior to this point, Abraham had audible conversations with God, who spoke to the patriarch from Heaven. But in chapter 18, God literally shows up at Abraham’s doorstep:
And the LORD appeared unto [Abraham] in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; And [Abraham] lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground, And said, My LORD, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:
Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree: And I will fetch a morsel of bread, and comfort ye your hearts; after that ye shall pass on: for therefore are ye come to your servant. And they said, So do, as thou hast said. And Abraham hastened into the tent unto Sarah, and said, Make ready quickly three measures of fine meal, knead it, and make cakes upon the hearth. And Abraham ran unto the herd, and fetch a calf tender and good, and gave it unto a young man; and he hasted to dress it. And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat. – Genesis 18:1-8.
In verse 3, when Abraham used the phrase “My LORD”, the Hebrew term is Adonnai, which is a title only used for God. So the Bible is clear that not only did Abraham see and speak to God and the two angelic beings present with Him, he ate with them and had his servants clean their feet. So how can we be sure this was God The Son? In addition Jesus’ own testimony that “no man hath seen the Father..” we can also look to the description of Jesus in Scripture. Colossians 2 says of Jesus: “For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.” Jesus is the physical form of the triune God.
Hebrews 1 says:
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high: – Hebrews 1:1-3.
God the Father on other hand, is a Spirit: “God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.“ (John 4:24).
Now contrast that description of God the Father with Jesus’ own description of spirits in general. The Lord Jesus Christ gives an explanation in Luke 24 after His resurrection:
And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet. And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat? And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. And he took it, and did eat before them. – Luke 24:36-43.
Jacob’s Dream of The Divine Ladder
In Genesis 28, Jacob, the grandson of Abraham and father of the twelve tribes Israel, had a dream in which the promise of the Messianic blessing was given to him directly from God:
And [Jacob] dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it. And, behold, the LORD stood above it, and said, I am the LORD God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed; And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed. And, behold, I am with thee, and will keep thee in all places whither thou goest, and will bring thee again into this land; for I will not leave thee, until I have done that which I have spoken to thee of.
And Jacob awaked out of his sleep, and he said, Surely the LORD is in this place; and I knew it not. And he was afraid, and said, How dreadful is this place! this is none other but the house of God, and this is the gate of heaven. And Jacob rose up early in the morning, and took the stone that he had put for his pillows, and set it up for a pillar, and poured oil upon the top of it. And he called the name of that place Bethel: but the name of that city was called Luz at the first. – Genesis 28:12-19.
In verse 13, the Bible states that it was “the LORD” who appeared and when God speaks, the text reads “I am the Lord God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest..” The term “Lord God” is YHWH, or Jehovah which is often referred to as the proper title of God. Again it is clear that Jacob was speaking directly with God. But in chapter 31 of Genesis, Jacob encounters “the Angel of God” and is given a very interesting revelation through a second dream:
And the angel of God spake unto me in a dream, saying, Jacob: And I said, Here am I. And he said, Lift up now thine eyes, and see, all the rams which leap upon the cattle are ringstraked, speckled, and grisled: for I have seen all that Laban doeth unto thee. I am the God of Bethel, where thou anointedst the pillar, and where thou vowedst a vow unto me: now arise, get thee out from this land, and return unto the land of thy kindred.- Genesis 31:11-13.
This is the first appearance of this “Angel” in Scripture. And notice how He introduces Himself to Jacob. The Angel says that He was the same God who appeared to Jacob in the dream of the ladder. The Angel’s words confirms that it is God, or one with God.
Moses At The Burning Bush
In Exodus chapter 3, Moses encounters God in a burning bush. This bush was burning with supernatural fire that did not consume the branches and bark of the bush while it burned. It was here that Moses received his mission to be the leader of the Israelites as God would judge their Egyptian slave masters with a series of plagues. And this passage leaves no doubt that the Angel of the Lord is indeed God:
Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb. And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed. And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt. And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I. And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground. Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God. – Exodus 3:1-6.
Once the bush had caught Moses’ attention, the Angel identifies Himself as “the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” Notice this is the same introduction that the Angel used with Jacob, except only naming Abraham and Isaac. And all through this passage, the Bible identifies the Angel of the Lord as God. Again, Scripture confirms that rather than being a normal angel, the Angel of The Lord is indeed God.
In Exodus 13, God had just completed His final punishment on the Egyptians at the first Passover. Pharaoh, now defeated, let the Israelites leave Egypt. In the wilderness, God led the Israelites on their journey to the Promised Land: “And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night: He took not away the pillar of the cloud by day, nor the pillar of fire by night, from before the people.” (Exodus 13:21-22).
God provided a literal cloud pillar (the cloud used throughout Exodus to conceal His Presence from the Israelites – reinforcing that God the Father is not to be viewed by anyone but the Son) during daytime to lead the Israelites. In Exodus 14, Pharaoh, in his final attempt to slaughter the children of Israel, reneged on his promise of freedom and brought the full force of his army to the wildness in order to attack the Israelites:
And Moses said unto the people, Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the LORD, which he will shew to you to day: for the Egyptians whom ye have seen to day, ye shall see them again no more for ever. The LORD shall fight for you, and ye shall hold your peace. And the LORD said unto Moses, Wherefore criest thou unto me? speak unto the children of Israel, that they go forward… And the Egyptians shall know that I am the LORD, when I have gotten me honour upon Pharaoh, upon his chariots, and upon his horsemen. And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them: And it came between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel; and it was a cloud and darkness to them, but it gave light by night to these: so that the one came not near the other all the night. – Exodus 14:13-20.
Both the Angel of God and God in the pillar of the cloud, moved from their position in front of the entire Israelite nation to behind them to provide a defense against the encroaching Egyptian army. So not only is the Angel of the Lord identified as God, He and God the Father both appear and operate at the same time. This passage shows the Old Testament distinction between God The Father and The Son.
In Exodus 23, God The Father specifically refers to the Angel:
Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared. Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him. But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries. – Exodus 23:20-22.
Notice the Angel has God’s “name in him.” This is a confirmation that this Angel is no lower ranking being, but is Divine Himself (in fact “the Name” is even a title for God in Scripture and Hebrew culture in general). This is further confirmed when God warns the Israelites that if they do not obey the voice of this Angel and provoke Him, “he will not pardon your transgressions.” So this Angel has full authority to forgive sin. From Scripture, Jesus Christ, during His Earthly ministry, not only forgave sins, but was criticized for ‘trying to be God’ when He did so:
And when [Jesus] saw their faith, he said unto him, Man, thy sins are forgiven thee. And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone? – Luke 5:20-21.
So it was well known in Jewish culture that only God had the power to forgive sins and in their opposition to Jesus, the Pharisees called Him a blasphemer because He dares to proclaim a man forgiven. Just as during His appearances as the Angel of The Lord, Jesus can forgive sin, because He is God.
Joshua And The Captain Of The Host
And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries? And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant? And the captain of the LORD’s host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so. – Joshua 5:13-15.
In this passage, the “Captain of the host of the Lord” gives Joshua the same command the Angel of God gave to Moses at the burning bush – to remove his shoes because he was standing on holy ground. The Captain also received Joshua’s worship -something normal angels repeatedly refuse to do throughout Scripture. This was yet another appearance of Christ in The Old Testament.
Book of Judges
The Angel of The Lord gives more confirmation of His Divinity in Judges chapter 2: “And an angel of the LORD came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.” (Judges 2:1). Notice the Angel says that it was He who led the Israelites out of Egypt to the Promised Land and He who made the Mosaic covenant with the Israelites. He is claiming responsibility for the exact same great works that are clearly attributed to Yahweh in the book of Exodus. How can this be possible? Jesus, in the New Testament provides the explanation:
I and my Father are one. – Jesus Christ, John 10:30.
Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake. – John 14:8-11.
Like Jesus did in the New Testament, the Angel acts with the full authority of God. Because they in essence are the same though different in person. Thus the idea of the Angel of God being God is not polytheism and ancient Jews never considered this belief as being the worship of “many gods.” It was the worship of One God who exists as Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
The Parents of Samson
Samson, the final judge over Israel in the book of Judges, was a child of promise. His mother was unable to bear children but received a prophecy that she would indeed have a child who was to be dedicated to The Lord. In chapter 13, the Angel of God makes another appearance, repeating the instructions initially given to Samson’s mother on how the child should be raised. But up to this point, the two parents thought this Angel was a human “man of God” and not Divine:
And Manoah said unto the angel of the LORD, I pray thee, let us detain thee, until we shall have made ready a kid for thee. And the angel of the LORD said unto Manoah, Though thou detain me, I will not eat of thy bread: and if thou wilt offer a burnt offering, thou must offer it unto the LORD. For Manoah knew not that he was an angel of the LORD. And Manoah said unto the angel of the LORD, What is thy name, that when thy sayings come to pass we may do thee honour?
And the angel of the LORD said unto him, Why askest thou thus after my name, seeing it is secret? So Manoah took a kid with a meat offering, and offered it upon a rock unto the LORD: and the angel did wondrously; and Manoah and his wife looked on. For it came to pass, when the flame went up toward heaven from off the altar, that the angel of the LORD ascended in the flame of the altar. And Manoah and his wife looked on it, and fell on their faces to the ground. But the angel of the LORD did no more appear to Manoah and to his wife. Then Manoah knew that he was an angel of the LORD. And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God. – Judges 13:13-22.
By the end of the encounter, Manoah realized that the “man of God” who entered his home was God Himself.
Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego
Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego were Jewish teens living in the palace of King Nebuchadnezzar during the Babylon captivity of Israel. After refusing to worship a statue of the pagan king, the young men were sentenced to be thrown into a fiery furnace for execution. When they were confrotned about their “crime” the young men boldly proclaimed: “If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king. But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.” (Daniel 3:17-18). In the face of a literal death sentence, the three showed powerful faith in The Lord.
When they were sent to “their deaths” the King was stunned by God’s grace on these three youths:
And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace. Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonished, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king. He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God… Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and have changed the king’s word, and yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God. – Daniel 3:22-28.
The Babylonian King made the first identification of the Angel in the furnace with the three men being “the Son of God.” And thus there is even stronger Biblical confirmation of Jesus’ presence in the Old Testament. And this account also provides a beautiful type and shadow of Christ’s work as Savior, saving all who believe from the flames of Hell and the Lake of Fire.
The Testimony of Isaiah
In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the LORD sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple. Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly. And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory. And the posts of the door moved at the voice of him that cried, and the house was filled with smoke. Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts. – Isaiah 6:1-5.
Isaiah was one of a handful of Biblical prophets who were given a direct vision into the throne room of God. In this passage the prophet describes the majesty and awe-inspiring nature of viewing The Lord. So was Isaiah actually able to see God the Father? Is this who sat on the throne? In the New Testament we get the answer:
Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth. While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them. But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him: That the saying of Esaias [Isaiah] the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed? Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias [Isaiah] said again, He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them. These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and spake of him. – John 12:35-41.
Despite Jesus performing miracles that proved He was the prophesied Messiah of the Old Testament, many did not believe. In John Chapter 12, Jesus was in Bethany eating with Lazarus – the same man Jesus had earlier raised from the dead. And just prior to the passage above, God the Father had just spoken from Heaven to state that He would glorify Jesus. And yet, despite these supernatural confirmations, some still did not believe. Why did they resist? John quotes Isaiah chapter 6 for the answer. God “..blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart…” – these were the words God spoke from the throne in Isaiah 6. But notice John’s conclusion: Isaiah wrote those words when he saw “His glory, and spake of Him.” The “Him” is Jesus Christ. So not only was Jesus at work on Earth as the Angel of God, we also receive confirmation that He sits as God on the throne in Heaven.
From the testimony of Scripture, Lord willing, it is now clear that the Angel of The Lord was indeed Jesus Christ in the Old Testament. Rather than sitting in a reserve role until the New Testament, Christ The Lord was very active in the great plan of salvation that would be fulfilled through Him and achieved by Him. The Bible truly is all about Jesus Christ, from Genesis to Revelation. And understanding this Biblical truth develops a deeper insight into the compassion, care and love The Lord has for all of us. At no time did God ever leave His people abandoned and without hope. And when strong confirmation was needed, the Angel of God, the express of image of God Himself, appeared to reassure, lead and empower. And today, Jesus Christ, now revealed as the Son of God and soon to be revealed in His full glory, makes the same promise to all who believe.
“and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.” – Jesus Christ, Matthew 28:20.
Amen brother! Excellent article. Im really glad you put this article out. I try to tell people exactly what you ended with, that the whole Bible is all about Jesus Christ. I always understood the burning bush that Moses saw to be Jesus Christ. I’ll prove it for those who don’t believe! He confirms this multiple times in the new testament. I’ll start with Exodus 3:14, then move to the NT.
And God answered Moses, I AM THAT I AM. Also he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
Exodus 3:14 1599 Geneva Bible
I am that living bread, which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
John 6:51 1599 Geneva Bible
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am that light of the world: he that followeth me, shall not walk in darkness, but shall have that light of life.
John 8:12 1599 Geneva Bible
And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath, I am from above: ye are of this world, I am not of this world.
John 8:23 1599 Geneva Bible
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily I say unto you, before Abraham was, I am.
John 8:58 1599 Geneva Bible
I am that door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in, and go out, and find pasture.
John 10:9 1599 Geneva Bible
I am that good shepherd: that good shepherd giveth his life for his sheep.
John 10:11 1599 Geneva Bible
Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest, because I said, I am the Son of God?
John 10:36 1599 Geneva Bible
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead yet shall he live.
John 11:25 1599 Geneva Bible
Jesus said unto him, I am that Way, and that Truth, and that Life. No man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 14:6 1599 Geneva Bible
I am that true vine, and my Father is that husbandman.
John 15:1 1599 Geneva Bible
They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus said unto them, I am he. Now Judas also which betrayed him, stood with them.
As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went away backwards, and fell to the ground.
John 18:5-6 1599 Geneva Bible
Then said the high Priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write not, The King of the Jews, but that he said, I am the King of the Jews.
John 19:21 1599 Geneva Bible
And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against pricks.
Acts 9:5 1599 Geneva Bible
Here’s a great quote by a web site called Let us reason ministries that explains exactly what I’m trying to convey.
“The I Am In the Old Testament was whatever man needed. He became, he was his all in all. Jesus in the New Testament uses all the examples to show who He is. He is everything to man and the only way to God.
The most important of all the statements is in John 8:24 after he tells them I am not of this world.
“Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am [He], you will die in your sins.” ( he is not in the original). He is communicating to them he is the same I AM that Moses met at the burning bush which commissioned him.”
God bless you [email protected], as always, may grace, peace and mercy be unto from God our Father and Christ Jesus our Lord!
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me,
And I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish, neither shall any pluck them out of mine hand.
My Father which gave them me, is greater than all, and none is able to take them out of my Father’s hand.
I and my Father are one.
John 10:27-30 1599 Geneva Bible
It’s not “I am that I am”. It’s “I am WHO I am”.
Jesus is not or never was an angle, the bible is very clear about this!
Ter ber says
Excellent-well written article. People need to see God’s scarlet thread throughout the whole bible. I have just finished watching: Trinity on Trial by Pastor Jim Staley from Passionfortruth.com. Where he expounded on the original Hebrew and Armaic on Jesus Christ throughout the Old testament. Mind blowing! Had no idea. This needs to get out to all the Bible believing Pastors! Would love to send you the teaching as a gift, for all the long research and work you do for us on your website. Thanks Therese
Hi [email protected],
Just wanted to add a little bit on the “Angel of the Lord”. I found some more scripture today in Bible study class at Church about the Angel of the Lord. Let’s read!
This poor man cried, and the Lord heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles.
The Angel of the Lord pitched round about them, that fear him, and delivereth them.
Taste ye and see, how gracious the Lord is: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.
Psalms 34:6-8 1599 Geneva Bible
So notice in verse 6, the poor man that cried to the Lord. The Lord heard him and saved him from his troubles. Then immediately afterwards, in verse 7, the “Angel of the Lord” is said to deliver them that fear him, and he is pitched or he encampeths those that fear him. Then in verse 8, David tells us of how gracious the Lord is, and that we are blessed if we trust in him. So what I get out of these three verses, is that the “Angel of the Lord”, and the Lord himself are one and the same. When we pray to the Father, we do it the great name of Jesus. When the poor man cried to the Lord (Father), it was the Angel of the Lord (Jesus Christ), that delivered him. I just thought it was awesome finding this today in scripture while at Church. Especially after just reading this article a few days prior. I love the way God directs us to understand Him. God bless you brother!
I and my Father are one.
John 10:30 1599 Geneva Bible
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
John 8:58 1599 Geneva Bible
Hey B + E I have a question about Moses. Numbers 31:17-18 says, “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.” It seems like Moses is condoning pedophilia and infanticide. Is my interpretation correct? Because if it is, it would seem to contradict Proverbs 6:17, which says that God hates hand that shed innocent blood. Another verse that seems to contradict Proverbs 6:17 is 1 Samuel 15:3: “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.”
The purpose of the Holy war was to eradicate impure elements, whether persons or property, from society. This battle followed on the heels of the idolatrous activity of Baal-peor (Numbers 25) that began with unholy sexual relations and resulted in the deaths of thousands of Israelites. It also set the stage for the instructions in Numbers 33:50-56 for possessing the promised land by driving out the Canaanites and iradicating the sources of idolatry. Critics suggest this holy war mentality was a development among ancient peoples and not in keeping Gods purpose, but these instructions were specific in time and place at the critical point of the founding of the theocracy of Israel, where their survival as the holy community of faith was at stake. Numbers 31 is consistent with the instructions given in other pentateuchal passages, including Deuteronomy 7:5, 24-25, 12:1-12 and 20:16-19 (purging in idolatry) and Deuteronomy 21:10-14 (female captives). But the instructions for Israel in the era of Moses and Joshua have been superseded by the law of Christ and the law of love. God still abhors evil in society, and the people of God should be diligent in opposing every form of evil, but not the extent of conducting a holy war. You really have to read verse 25, it says these people were a plague among the congregation of the Lord. As far as pedophilia goes, you are misinterpreting this verse big time. The ones who were still virgins were still innocent. So when it says keep them for yourselves, it doesn’t mean have sex with them, that’s ridiculous. It means, to keep them alive so they can become Gods people. The people they were eradicating were full of sin, they cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Also the nephilim gene was more than likely among those who were not virgins. A pure human DNA line had to be kept, so that the Messiah could be born. I’m sure B&E could touch on that subject better than I could. I pray this helps Summergirl. May grace, peace and mercy be unto you from God our Father and Christ Jesus our Lord. God bless.
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (KJV)
And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life.
Revelation 21:27 (KJV)
I still don’t get it. I understand what you’re saying but why would God tell Saul to smite the “infant and suckling” if he hates “hands that shed innocent blood”? You didn’t really eliminate the contradiction.
Because they are not innocent. God would not have commanded this if they were innocent, they were indeed impure and idolaters. In fact, that’s why He said to “keep alive for yourselves those who have not layed with men”, because they were still innocent. There is no contradiction there whatsoever with the scripture you keep referencing. Do you think God destroyed innocent people in the flood? I would hope not, the Bible says that “their thoughts were evil continually”, therefore they were not innocent. These people were all idolaters, that were poisoning the Israelites. Do you remember what the first commandment is (Exodus 20:3)? God cannot let His people turn to idolatry, therefore, they had to be wiped out. I don’t know how it get any clearer than that. I pray again that this helps. God bless.
Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Exodus 20:3-6 (KJV)
I think the problem for me is that I consider “infant and suckling” and “every male among the little ones” to refer to babies/children. And it doesn’t seem like babies/children couldn’t be innocent.
John William says
Beginning and End – I’m so happy to see that you’ve come to this conclusion. I recently came this to conclusion as well after taking a class at the Birmingham Bible Institute in Birmingham, Michigan and reading a book entitled “Those Invisible Spirits Called Angels” by scholar Renald E. Showers.
Growing up in church and as a Christian for 28 years, this theory had never been explained to me and I was surprised and very encouraged to learn what I did about the angel of the Lord. It adds a new dimension to the person of Jesus Christ and causes me to appreciate and love him more, if that’s even possible. Also, as humans we should continually thank God for salvation….because salvation was provided to us, and not angels, and the text clearly states that Jesus was the “Angel of the Lord”. Whether he had all or some of the properties of an angel at one point in time in history, I cannot say. But salvation was not granted to angels, yet it was to us. Both angels and humans sinned, but only we have been granted forgiveness and redemption. Praise God.
Does psalm 34:7 refer to Jesus Christ as well?
Yes sir I do believe it does. I referenced it a few comments earlier. When it says “an angel of the Lord”, it’s usually referring to just a regular angel. However, when it says “The Angel of the Lord”, I have found that to be a very special angel who lets people worship Him, which regular angels always refuse. This no doubt is the same angel that came to Moses in the burning bush, and is absolutely Jesus Christ Himself!
This poor man cried, and the Lord heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles.
The angel of the Lord encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them.
O taste and see that the Lord is good: blessed is the man that trusteth in him.
Psalm 34:6-8 (KJV)
“Scripture confirms that rather than being a normal angel, the Angel of The Lord is indeed God.”
Then why word it that way? Instead of saying “The angel of the Lord”, why not just say “God”? Every single word, revised and not, is intended to be there for a purpose.
How were the thousands of Midianite boys (males among the little ones) not innocent? Only the Midianite women led the Israelites to sin-all of the children were innocent. The boys were just as innocent as the girls were. Moses easily could have told the Israelites to spare all of the Midianite children. But why did Moses tell them to kill all of the boys?
I hope nobody is infurring that christ is an angel? because angels do not and cannot receive worship! They have not all authority!
Beginning and End says
“Angel” in Scripture refers to a class of spirit realm being and a title for a messenger or sent person. The “Angel of the Lord” in Scripture does not mean that Christ is an angel or created being. Hebrews 1 goes out of its way to clarify that Jesus is not an angel. And all through Scripture we receive confirmation that Jesus is God and Creator of all things, including the angels who worship Him.
But “Angel of The Lord” is a title for Our Lord before He took on Human form. As shown in the passages in this article, it used interchangeable with “God” in Scripture. If there is a particular part of the article that you find disagreement with, please let me know. I would be happy to explain my position. God bless you abundantly. -B&E
ronald martin daka says
Dear B and E
You believe the doctrine of a triune God – the trinity – and hence the supposition that the “Angel of the Lord” is Jesus Christ. I also read in this posting about “God the Son”. There is no such a scripture which speaks about God the Son. With a lot of due respect – pardon my poor English as it is not my first language – let me share with you a few scriptures.
1. Contrary to the thought above that the angel of the Lord who met Abraham was Jesus in the context of the doctrine of the trinity. The Scripture says, “And the Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre…”. Compare this with what Moses in the Law stated according to Exodus 20:1-3, “I am the Lord thy God…” in singular. He goes on to explain how He is one and alone. Deut 6:4,5
“Hear o Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord…”. Read also Deut 4:35,39; Deut 32:39
This is the same God whom Abraham met in Gen 15:1-7 and gave Abraham the promises. Now in Gen 16,17 and 18 the Lord appeared unto Abraham. The same Lord also appears to Moses in Exodus 3 and introduces Himself,
Vs.2 states, “And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire…”
Vs 4-6 states, “And when the Lord saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush and said, Moses, Moses… I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.”
Vs 7 states, “And the Lord said, I have surely seen the affliction of my people…”
In summary, according to the law (the Torah), God is one. The God of the Hebrews, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel is one and nowhere does the scripture suggest the alien concept of a trinity.
2. The prophets also did not teach of a trinity. The prophets also knew Him as one God. Well to start with Abraham and Moses were prophets. But let us pick others for now.
Elijah the Prophet in 1 Kings 18:21,24,36,39 Elijah addressed Him in exactly the same manner as Moses did in Exodus 3:6,15
Isaiah the prophet saw the Lord seated upon a throne (Is. 6:1-8). This is a similar vision that Ezekiel (Ez 1) and John (Rev 4) saw. Moreover God shows Isaiah the coming of the Messiah (Is. 7:14) “God with us” as was interpreted in Matt. 1:23; Isaiah is also shown that the child to be given has the whole godhead in Him: Is. 9:6-7, “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, the Mighty God, the everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace…”
Please note that Paul had exactly the same light and understanding as Isaiah in Col 1:19. Isaiah further saw God coming and taking up the body of flesh in Is. 35:3-6. When John the Baptist wanted to ascertain the validity of the Ministry of the Lord Jesus, Jesus gave John’s disciples to experience first hand his fulfillment of Is. 35 when in Luke 7:19-23 “…Go your way and tell John what things you have seen and heard…” according to Is.35.
In the New Testament the apostles had the same belief of God as the prophets in the Old Testament. Whether it was John (John 1:1,2,14)…”and the Word was God…And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us…” The testimony of the disciples in John 1:41,45 and they called Him the Son of God. Today the majority in christendom call Him “God the Son”; yet there is not a single Scripture which refers to Christ as God the Son! The full testimony of John shows Christ as God Himself manifested in the flesh (Jesus Christ the Son of God) and that is wherein lies the secret of salvation. John 8:24. Please read prayerfully John 6 to see the discussion between Jesus and the Jews and why they left him despite the miracles performed among them. Peter said, “Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
Perhaps for now let me conclude with Paul. Paul was a Pharisee taught under Gamaliel. He understood the godhead very well from a Jewish perspective as in the OT law and prophets. When he was persecuting the saints he thought he was fighting God’s war. He understood who was in the pillar of fire which Moses saw (the burning bush or the cloud by day and the pillar of fire by night). That is why when he met that Pillar of Fire as he going to Damascus, and a voice came out, “Saul, Saul why are you persecuting me?” He could only answer, “who are you Lord?” The answer came, “I am Jesus whom you are persecuting…” The pharisee who Deut 6:4 and Ex 20:1-3 and knew that the Lord who answers by fire 1 Kings 20, the Lord He is the God. Once he had that revelation he experienced his conversion to Christ. Then he could be baptised.
So the trinity teaching that God is a trinity of three persons is alien to both the old and new testament. God is one. We see Him in Melchizedek, meeting Abraham in the plains of Mamre and seen by Isaiah and so forth. Nowhere in the Scripture do we find the word trinity. The Lord Jesus is the Son of God. He is God manifested in the flesh. That is the Scripture.
May God bless you for creating this site. Stay blessed of the Lord.
Beginning and End says
I have to respectfully disagree with you. As I started the article with one verse, I will share it and pose the same question:
How do you reconcile these very clear statements by The Lord with your beliefs? Or the many examples given in the article? God bless. B&E
terry a says
The Angel of the LORD was merely a theophany, which means it was GOD physically manifesting HIMSELF to humans in order to communicate with HIM. Since No one can see HIM and live, that only means that no one can see HIS true Nature and Glory and Live. All it means is, is that no man can really see the Father as He really is in HIS fully Glorified state. So, GOD had to use what we call Theophanies or physical manifesting HIMSELF in tangible objects and forms. hence the burning bush. The burning Bush was not GOD nor the Angel. The bush was a symbol. It never said God or the Angel was the Bush. It said clearly the Angel appeared basically from the flame in the midst of the bush, then it states that God spoke to Moses out of the midst of the bush. So right then and there, we know the bush wasn’t god or the angel, they both were in the midst of the bush. This was GOD manifesting HIMSELF in a way to conceal HIS Glory and to veil it. It means that it was GOD who spoke from the Bush. Whether we say it’s Jesus or GOD it’s still GOD who is speaking as Exodus states. No one ever said the Angel spoke from the Bush, it said GOD, never did it say the Angel. The Angel never spoke from the Bush. Note, it said GOD spoke to HIM, not the Angel. The Angel was simply a theophany or physical body used by GOD to communicate to conceal HIS glory. This is why it states that No man can see HIM and live, it means HIS glory aka Shekinah aka presence has to be concealed, hence the cloud and the bush. It was still the FATHER. That is why inside of the Ark of the Covenant and temple and tabernacle, when the smoke filled the place, they had to leave. It was GOD physically in Shekinah form or physical form with HIS Glory partially unveiled. The smoke that filled the place was literally GOD’s presence, not the Angel. The Angel was always and always was GOD literally manifesting HIMSELF in a physical vessel or vehicle to communicate to veil His glory. It also showed us that one day HE would send HIS Son Jesus in the flesh to reveal HIS Glory to us unveiled. In other words Jesus when He came in the NT, was actually GOD’s glory unveiled to Man finally. Through HIM we can see GOD now since He finally has a physical Body. Jesus never had a physical body til He came to earth. Before He came to Earth, He like GOD was eternal and everywhere without a body, infinite. Now, since He came to Earth, all of that glorified state HE had before earth is still there, but it’s wrapped up inside of his body. And it also means that HE represents GOD’s presence and divine nature and is GOD in bodily state as the NT teaches us. This is the reason GOD manifested HIMSELF as an angel in the OT. It was not that Jesus was pre-incarnate. It means that GOD was going to one day communicate with man through Jesus, the same way He did in HIS theophanies in the old testament. Since Jesus was and IS God, and Since HE represents the presence and manifestation of the presence of the Father unveiled to us, it’s safe to say that Yes the Angel of the Lord was Jesus. It was not however, a pre-incarnate state of Jesus. That’s an idea passed down from early church fathers and those ideas were rejected. What did paul say in Hebrews about Christ compared to the Angels? So, let’s look at it like this, let’s not say that the Angel was a pre-incarnate Christ ok? We have to remember, that the OT always was a given as something temporary til Christ HIMSELF came down from Heaven to dwell in a body prepared for HIM. The Ceremonial Laws were temporary i.e. sacrifices. and resting on the sabbath. The Eternal Sabbath is Jesus. So just as those were temporary, so were the theophanies GOD used. The idea is to get us to understand that GOD would one day allow us to see HIS glory unveiled through HIS Son Jesus. Jesus is the fullness of the Godhead in bodily form. In other words, Jesus, now having a physical glorified body, is the glory and presence and essence, in bodily unveiled form, and HE is also GOD manifested in bodily form. That’s all you need to really know. This is why Jesus said those who have seen HIM have seen the Father. So, to wrap up my comment. The Angel of GOD was in fact Jesus and God since they are both ONE. But the Angel of GOD was not and never was a pre-incarnate Jesus. It was GOD showing you and me, that since no man can see HIM and live, He had to use physical tangible objects to manifest HIS nature and glory to conceal it, to keep us from being consumed by it. It was a foreshadowing of Jesus coming as the emobidement of that glory and a foreshadowing of Jesus coming as GOD since the Angel of the Lord was literally GOD showing HIMSELF in a veil format. So, that lets you know that Jesus is GOD. HE is GOD unveiled to US and it means we can approach GOD through Jesus. This is why it said the Angel appeared to Moses from the midst of the flame. The bush represented fallen man’s sinful state, the fire represented GOD’s glory aka Shekinah. It comes with judgement, etc. The fact that moses could not approach GOD at first saying he was only holy ground, was letting us know we are not worthy to approach the flame, aka the glory without Jesus in our lives. It was also telling you that Jesus would be used as redemption to keep us from being burned and destroyed. Hence the reason why the flame did not consume the bush of thorns. The bush was merely a bush of thorns. That’s the reason why GOD showed up in a bush as an Angel. Anytime HE showed up as the Angel, it was letting you know HE would one day appear to US in a manifested glorified state aka Jesus. So I am not going to really accept the fact that the Angel was a pre-incarnate state. We can only really understand that it was GOD physically manifesting HIMSELF to conceal HIS glory and to let us know we can not approach HIM and SEE HIM as He really is. We have to understand that the only way to approach HIS glory is through and by Jesus. And that was the purpose of the Angel showing up in Human form. No where else will you see the Angel referenced other than Human form maybe except the cloud and pillar of fire in some cases. The rest of the times, you see the cloud of glory and smoke, which represents GOD’s presence. Please try to study and research a bit. Saying that the Angel was Jesus is not really biblical. Those are teachings passed down by early church leaders. Even the jews don’t accept it. The jews think it was michael. However, as I have said, it was a theophany, GOD literally manifesting HIMSELF and HIS true shekinah glory aka presence, in a veiled format to let us know, we can only come to HIM by means of a mediator aka Jesus. Plain and simple. End of story. People like to say the Angel spoke to Moses from the bush or the bush was god or the angel. Where did it say the Angel spoke to Him from the Bush. It was always GOD. I have never read anywhere where the Angel spoke with Moses. GOD spoke to HIM directly but He had to always be veiled in a physical body or state, which always represented Jesus. God Bless you.
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ronald martin daka says
Dear B and E
I am profoundly sorry for replying so late. I quite appreciate your very mature approach to these discussions. May God bless you for all this. Let me reply to the question based on Scripture. You quoted John 1:18 and John 6:46.
“No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.”
“Not that any man hath seen the the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father”.
But where is the suggestion of a “triune” God here? This same scripture simply shows you the mystery of Godliness – God manifested in the flesh. That is the mystery. That is the primary reason Christ said, John 14:7-11
“If you had known me you should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? He that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, shew us the Father?
10 Believest thou not I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me he doeth the works.
See also John 10:25-38 Jesus speaks about His sheep, “…no man is able to pluck them out of my hand”…”no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand”…”I and my Father are one”. What do you make out such statements from the Lord Himself. If they are three persons it means Christ the Son has hands while God the Father has hands. So in whose hand are the true believers?
I wonder how you justify your doctrine of the trinity. It certainly is not in the Scripture. The appearance of God in the Old Testament in various forms does not make God as Trinity of three persons. To know and understand the truth requires God Himself to reveal it by His Holy Spirit. I do not have reason to attempt to shove what I believe in on any one except on this your forum I can take time to share.
I believe strongly that in the time we living in it is a time of Hosea 6:1,2 and the fulfilment of last week of Daniel in Dan 9 is close at hand. With the reported preparations for the restoration of temple worship in Israel time for the Gentiles is almost over (Rom 11:25). I would be happy to exchange some notes on the interpretation of bible prophecies and the relationship with the God head.
Andrew Dorr says
I am not a bible scholar and I am not going to pretend I know everything. I only know what the holy spirit reveals to me. I am a advent reader of Gods precious word and I never go thirsty amen! I do not usually comment on these things I just read opinions just out of being curious. I think fellow believers really sometimes become very arrogant in our Fathers word and it really pains me to it cause Jesus preaches love
and embrace one another for beloved we are all saved by the blood that was spilled on the cross and none of us can boast about anything that comes close to that event in history that literally disarmed the devil from that point on….Relax God is multi demensional multi changing. He can be who what he wants to be cause he created all things . That is why Jesus said if you have seen me you have seen the Father. Another words he is a spirit. The Bible speaks about in revalations the Angels in heaven are in awe of is presence saying over and over again Holy Holy Holy Holy! Cause he is always revealing somthing new so Angels say Holy cause tbey are in awe of his glory! Our Fatber revealed his love for us thru his Son Jesus to show us and teach us thru his holy spirit which I dont know about your walk but each day it always exciting thru his spirit cause man he loves us so much and Jesus gave his life so we may know what it feels like to have Kingdom grace and freedom here on his beloved creation as it is on Earth as it is in heaven…amen
Excellent article, sorry I found it so far after its publication. It’s a bit of a relief to know that there are others out there who understand the fact that Christ is in reality the archangel Michael, a secret that God’s enemies do not want revealed. Michael is Christ.
Beginning and End says
Jesus Christ is not an angel. He is God. “The Angel of The Lord” is one of the many titles for Jesus Christ in Scripture. The Bible also calls Jesus “David”:
This was written hundreds of years after the death of David. Are we to conclude that Jesus is actually David? No. It is a spiritual title. Just as Jesus is The Prophet, The High Priest, The Lamb, The Seed, The Way, The Door, The Bread and many other spiritual titles which signify His Divinity.
Michael is an archangel appointed to watch over Israel. He is a peer to the other angels who watch over the Gentile world (e.g., the Prince of Persia, the Prince of Greece). He is not Jesus.
Interesting that you seem to disagree with your own article, (“Just as during His appearances as the Angel of The Lord, Jesus can forgive sin”)
For me personally, I don’t need to look to the “letters of Paul” outside the four gospels for insight into the identity of Christ. Nowhere does Jesus say “I am God”. There’s one quote where he says that “I and my Father are the same”, however that’s not the same as saying “I am God” He’s not that arrogant. He also stated that “God is higher than I” and “why do you call me perfect? There is no one perfect other than God”. So no, Jesus, as firstborn son of God, is by definition NOT God. He is his lieutenant, captain, deputy on earth. People should stop placing Jesus too high because it’s a real annoyance and disservice to him. And yes, the Principality *the PRINCE of peace* is Jesus, and the Prince is also described as Michael the archangel. The “two” beings are the same and were divided by his enemies because that’s what the enemy does: divide. On the Day of Judgement, you will learn the truth rather than just speaking as though you know all (like so many followers of man-crafted orthodoxy). You don’t. The King James bible is the closest translation to the original text, however even he altered it to his own earthly desires. Not everything said in the bible today reflects the truth. Much of it has been *revised* by the enemies of God. To deny that is to show severe ignorance or allegiance to the enemy. Read Revelation 22:18 and 19. Do you REALLY think God’s adversaries obeyed the warning?
Beginning and End says
This article was written precisely for you as it refutes your reasoning. Did Isaiah see Michael, the archangel, sitting on the throne of God in Isaiah chapter 6? Of course not. Yet John 12:41 says He saw JESUS CHRIST. It was The Lord Jesus Christ on the throne in Isaiah chapter 6. That passage alone refutes any notion of Jesus not being God.
As for why Jesus said God the Father was higher than Him? The answer is simple – because He Was. Jesus intentionally lowered Himself into the form of a human to die on the cross:
Jesus was made into a lower form than the angels (again showing that He is NOT an angel). This is a basic concept of the Gospel. While He retained His Divine essence, He took on a literal, physical human body. So He hungered. He thirsted. He got tired. Jesus was badly beaten up and killed by human beings. Clearly He was not in His fully glorified Divine state at that time or or all of the aforementioned would have been impossible. Upon His Resurrection, He returned to His glorified state and resumed full divine authority:
ALL power. This was God returned to His Full divine authority in His Divine form.
There is no Scripture that ever, ever makes any reference to the archangel Michael being God. Or being Jesus. This is unfortunately a very erroneous doctrine promoted by heretical groups like the Jehovah’s Witness and Seventh Day Adventists, both of which are wildly unbiblical, non-Christian religious groups. I can only plead with you to avoid the many false doctrines of these groups at all costs.
As for the “letters of Paul” – Paul’s writings were confirmed as Scripture by Peter:
Peter fully endorsed Paul’s epistles as being divinely inspired “Scripture.” So if you believe Peter is wrong here then you are now rejecting Peter’s writings as divinely inspired, meaning you would remove 1 and 2 Peter from the Bible as well as the book of Mark, as Mark was Peter’s scribe.
Additionally, you would have to remove the book of Acts and the Gospel of Luke, as Luke was Paul’s disciple. That leaves you with a 9-book New Testament. Is this how you view the Bible?
If we cannot trust the Bible, how can we ever know we have salvation? There is no point in believing if we cannot trust the Scripture. I urge you to read the Bible with an open heart and let God’s Word guide you. The Lord loves you and wants you to be reconciled to Him through Jesus Christ. But that reconciliation is based on TRUST AND FAITH. Without faith it is impossible to please Him. So I am praying for your faith and trust in the divinely inspired Word of The Lord of All, Jesus Christ. -B&E
Emmanuel Lawrence says
You have been a blessing to me. I want you to help me I knw am destined for greatness that revelation has been made known to me by people and thru dreams but am struggling in life particularly with a sin. Please how can I communicate with you privately.
If you are talking to me reply back and I will give you a way to contact me directly. If not please disregard
Sean Francois says
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Ashley E.H. says
Christ is The Son of God and God The Son, and He loves all. And He is Good, Pure, and Perfect.
Richard Rossetti says
I have disagree with your statement. Jesus became God’s son when he was born of the Virgin mary. In the old testament he was known as the Lord of hosts or the Angel of the Lord. God did not have a son until he became God’s son at the incarnation.