As pop culture continues its promotion of the occult, Satanism and sinful rebellion, actor/musician James Franco’s new video for the song “Love In The Old Days” goes to the next level. The music video is a clear demonstration of Satanic worship on display and yet another warning of the role the entertainment world is playing in leading society into rebellion against God.
Hollywood’s Renaissance Man
With an Oscar nomination and star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame already under his belt, James Franco is one of the biggest stars in Hollywood today. His movie ‘Oz The Great and Powerful’ has been a blockbuster and his concurrently released indie film “Spring Breakers” is receiving critical acclaim. Upon the praised being lavished upon the multi-talented actor, the LA Times newspaper wrote:
“James Franco’s renaissance continues with the multi-hyphenate star dipping into music again. Somewhere between shooting films, going to college, playing director and heaping a handful of other projects on his plate, Franco found time to start a band, Daddy, with friend and musician-artist Tim O’Keefe.” (source).
“Plenty has been written about how James Franco is Hollywood’s Renaissance man. The 33-year-old Oscar-nominated actor from Palo Alto, near San Francisco, also directs films, writes books and poetry, stages multi-media art exhibitions, lectures at two colleges, is a student at Yale, New York University and Rhode Island School of Design, sings, models, co-hosted a little event in February called the Oscars and is heavily involved in charity work.” (source).
Director Sam Raimi, who directed Franco in the Spider Man movies said:
“James is a teacher, a poet, a sculptor, an actor, a director, a writer, a producer, a basket weaver … it goes on and on for days,” Raimi commented. “It seems like we’re always discovering James’ next endeavor.” (source).
As Beginning and End has detailed, with many of the biggest celebrities rise to stardom, there is often and occult influence lurking in the background. In the case of Franco and his rock band called Daddy, it has now revealed itself with the release of their video for ‘Love In The Old Days.’
The video depicts what Franco calls “The Marriage of Hell.” It is a full-on satanic ritual with a series of bizarre, dizzying bright light effects flashing, strobe-like all throughout the video [B&E – The video contains a great deal of nudity, occult ritual and dizzying effects and thus could not be posted in this article. We strongly caution those considering watching it]. It features men and women either nude or clad in underwear, wearing animal head masks, holding candles and walking in circles around a black and white checkerboard altar. Near the end of the video the men and women start to gyrate on one another leading up to the occult “marriage.” Film director and Aleister Crowley-disciple, Kenneth Anger, play the occult priest overseeing the ceremony.
Anger, who rose to prominence in the 1960’s traveling with the rock band the Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin before directing films in Hollywood, has been a teacher of the occult for decades. Franco said of Anger’s influence on him:
“Kenneth Anger has been an influence on me since I was first exposed to ‘Kustom Kar Kommandoes’ and ‘Scorpio Rising,’ but especially ‘Scorpio Rising,'” explains Franco. “When I went to NYU for film, I was always looking for ways to Anger up my films. My first one in particular, ‘The Feast of Stephen’ owes a lot to Anger, the way his camera transformed a gang of real 1960 bikers into homoerotic gods. In other films and projects I loved the way he took celebrity and the occult and fused them in [Sergei] Eisensteinian juxtapositions to achieve a greater, spiritual/aesthetic significance.” (source).
Anger by his own admission is a devout follower of Aleister Crowley, one of the foremost Satanists of the 20th century. Crowley’s influence on pop culture is not well-known, but nevertheless, very powerful. Many of the biggest musicians of all time, from The Beatles to The Rolling Stones have claimed inspiration from the writings of Crowley.
And here is Anger, in the rear right, serving as “occult priest” of the “marriage” in Franco’s music video:
Crowley, a 33rd degree Freemason, dubbed himself “The Beast”, “Baphomet” and “666.” His writings on black magick rituals and the “New Age” were most known for his phrase “Do As Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole of The Law” a principle that had the dual meaning of encouraging a license to seek any sinful, worldly pleasure and also the power of an occultist to use their “will” to achieve any goal. He was an advocate of drug use, sexual deviance, orgies, animal sacrifice and even child abuse and sacrifice, in order to maximize magical powers. With respect to the Christian faith, Crowley wrote:
“That religion they call Christianity; the devil they honor they call God. I accept these definitions, as a poet must do, if he is to be at all intelligible to his age, and it is their God and their religion that I hate and will destroy” (Crowley, The World’s Tragedy, p. xxx).
Anger, a self-described Magus (magick practitioner) who still gives lectures on Crowley, directed the documentary “Brush of Baphomet” which details Crowley’s artwork. He also directed Lucifer Rising, a movie dedicated to turning Satan into a heroic figure, “an implicit part of Crowley’s teachings.” (source).
The Bible of course is clear that all of this is sinful rebellion against God:
“There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch. Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.” – Deuteronomy 18:10-12.
Dabbling in the occult, using magic, casting spells or any similar activity is sinful rebellion against The Lord. At its core, all magic is an attempt to contact demonic spirits and fallen angels, in order to access their power. This is why the Bible is so strongly against any interaction with these beings. They are under Satan’s leadership (something Anger and Crowley were clearly aware of). But since the birth of humanity, Satan has disguised his intentions and instead, sought to seduce people into doing his bidding by appealing to our sinful lusts:
“Now the serpent was more [subtle] than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.” – Genesis 3:1-6.
Satan was able to seduce Eve into partaking of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good And Evil by first questioning God’s Word, casting doubt in her mind and then offering Eve secret knowledge that could lead to her becoming a god. The tactics of the Devil are no different today. The lure of secret knowledge (the word “occult” means secret) and unspeakable powers has drawn many millions of people through the centuries into the world of mysticism and magic. But rather than become gods, Adam and Eve instead became sinners and were punished by God with the curse of knowing they were dead spiritually and would indeed one day die physically as well. And it is this sin that brought the curse of death upon all humanity.
Adam was initially given dominion over the Earth:
“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.” – Genesis 1:26-28.
Man was originally given complete dominion over the entire earth and every beast that walked upon it. But after the fall of Adam and Eve, this control was temporarily relinquished to Satan. And since this time, every person born entered a world where Satan and his minions work invisibly, providing evil influence to entice our sinful nature that we inherited from our father Adam. 2 Peter says: “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:” (1 Peter 5:8).
Because of our sins, all people are guilty before God and thus subject to His wrath: which is eternal damnation in the Lake of Fire. Satan’s goal is to bring as many people away from God as possible and ensure they suffer the same fate he will one day endure for his own rebellion. But because of God’s love for us, He did not leave Adam and Eve without hope. Even after announcing their punishment, The Lord also prophesied of their salvation in the form of a redeemer who would come in the future:
And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. – Genesis 3:14-15.
This punishment of Satan was the first prophecy of the “seed of the woman” – the prophesied redeemer who would one day “bruise” or crush the head of the serpent and defeat him forever. That Redeemer is The Lord Jesus Christ, who defeated the Devil by dying on the cross and taking wrath for the sins of humanity. Jesus offered Himself as the perfect, Divine sacrifice to satisfy God’s wrath and provide forgiveness and eternal life for all who believe in Him. It also further condemned Satan who orchestrated the murder of Jesus on the cross by luring the traitorous disciple Judas into sin and eventually possessing him at the moment he acted out his scheme to have Jesus wrongfully arrested and executed.
But it takes faith and belief in Jesus for the free gift of salvation and forgiveness of sins in a person’s life. And this is where the spiritual battle presently takes place: in the hearts and minds of all people today. The Apostle Paul, knowing Satan works actively to lead people away from a belief in God and Jesus Christ, wrote: “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.” 2 Corinthians 11:2.
Satan will use “any means” to corrupt a person’s mind and lead them into sinful rebellion. And certainly the lure of fame, riches and all sorts of pleasure is an easy enticement to use. Thus it is no surprise to see so many celebrities throughout the past century use occult imagery, promote satanic rebellion in their music and art. And now it has reached the point of open and blatant promotion of satanic ritual.
When he was in film school, Franco dedicated his first film to Satanist Kenneth Anger. He said of the director:
“I guess I used whatever was in that book as kind of a guide about how to work with him. All I really needed was this basic ritual of, I guess you would call it, “The Marriage of Hell.” And we had imagery that was people in animal masks, that was based on certain images that Kenneth’s friend Brian [Butler] had shown me. I always saw Kenneth as the Priest of Darkness; his films have strangely fused art and weird, kind of religious rituals. And I knew in one of his performances he plays that weird instrument called the theremin….’ I could think of no one better to preside over the marriage of Hell than Anger. He is a force. A fusion of art, pop-culture, magick and sex. He is the voyeur-king.” (source).
Franco was also scheduled to participate in the public enactment of a satanic ritual just this past year:
In conjunction with the current exhibition For the Martian Chronicles, L&M Arts is pleased to present The Bartzabel Working, a performance by filmmaker and artist Brian Butler. Based on a ceremonial evocation of the spirit of Mars, first written and performed in London in 1910 by the famed British occultist Aleister Crowley, the ritual later became part of Los Angeles history in 1946 when Jet Propulsion Laboratory rocket scientist and Crowley protégé Jack Parsons conducted his own version of this rite, with the intention of placing a martial curse on a pre-Scientology L. Ron Hubbard.
For his reinterpretation of this historical performance, Butler will conjure Bartzabel, the spirit of Mars, evoking the site that was once home to the late sci-fi author Ray Bradbury and currently comprises L&M Arts. The ritual will have Butler as Chief Magus, leading a cast drawn from his upcoming feature film King Death and featuring Henry Hopper as Assistant Magus, Noot Seear as Magus Adjuvant, and James Franco as Material Basis, the vessel though which the spirit of Mars manifests. (source).
Brian Butler, a black magick occultist, and disciple of Aleister Crowley, scheduled the event as a part of a series of occult invocations he is directing across the country. Butler stated that he was following Crowley’s example of making satanic rituals public spectacles. It was Butler who initially introduced Franco to his idol, Kenneth Anger. And although he missed the event due to a delayed flight, Franco was scheduled to be one of its main participants.
Scripture is clear that the worshiping of false gods is an abomination to The Lord. In addressing those who were practicing secret occult rituals, God said:
“For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me. Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know. Stand now with thine enchantments, and with the multitude of thy sorceries, wherein thou hast laboured from thy youth; if so be thou shalt be able to profit, if so be thou mayest prevail.
Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.” – Isaiah 47:10-15.
God sees all things and knows the hearts of all people. Living a life full of witchcraft and sorcery will incur His just and divine wrath. This sinful rebellion is grave business in the Bible and we are warned to steer clear of it. When the nation of Israel felt into idolatry and the occult, practicing pagan rituals and serving other gods, The Lord proclaimed His anger to the prophet Jeremiah:
“ Therefore thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will bring evil upon them, which they shall not be able to escape; and though they shall cry unto me, I will not hearken unto them. Then shall the cities of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem go, and cry unto the gods unto whom they offer incense: but they shall not save them at all in the time of their trouble…Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up a cry or prayer for them: for I will not hear them in the time that they cry unto me for their trouble.What hath my beloved to do in mine house, seeing she hath wrought lewdness with many, and the holy flesh is passed from thee? when thou doest evil, then thou rejoicest.” – Jeremiah 11:11-15.
Israel, who had received God’s law and were responsible for being a light to the world to show the nations the truth and glory of believing in the True and Living God of the Bible, was so far gone into the occult and witchcraft, that The Lord told Jeremiah not to pray for them. The Lord said He would not listen to their cries for help. By God’s grace, people today can be heard when they believe in Jesus Christ. But despite God’s warnings, many people, often inspired by celebrities and pop culture, continue to believe in the occult.
Franco also paid homage to Crowley in the video with quick flashes of Crowley’s image on the screen during the video:
The OZ Connection
Interestingly, Franco’s movie Oz The Great And Powerful is based on a story from the 14 books written by L. Frank Baum, author of the very famous book, The Wizard of Oz. Baum was a member of the Theosophical society, started by satanist Madame H.P. Blavatsky. Blavatsky, who wrote many of her books at the end of the 19th century, via “automatic writing”the same writing process Crowley claimed to use, is one of the foremost influences of the modern New Age movement. She claimed to have channeled “ascended masters” from Tibet and the Egyptian goddess Isis. With respect to Satan, Blavatsky wrote:
“One of the most hidden secrets involves the so-called fall of Angels. Satan and his rebellious host will thus prove to have become the direct Saviours and Creators of divine man. Thus Satan, once he ceases to be viewed in the superstitious spirit of the church, grows into the grandiose image. It is Satan who is the God of our planet and the only God. Satan (or Lucifer) represents the Centrifugal Energy of the Universe, this ever-living symbol of self-sacrifice for the intellectual independence of humanity.“ (The Secret Doctrine, Volume II, Pages 215, 216, 220, 245, 255, 533).
Blavatsky called the idea that Satan is the ruler of the planet one of the “most hidden secrets.” Employing the same tactic Satan used with Adam and Eve, she implies that God is withholding the “real knowledge” and urges belief in the Devil instead. To no surprise Aleister Crowley made Blavatsky’s writings required reading in his occult organizations.
L. Frank Baum writing about Blavatsky’s House of Theosophy stated:
“Amongst various sects so numerous in America today who find their fundamental basis in occultism, the Theosophist stands pre-eminent both in intelligence and point of numbers. Theosophy is not a religion. Its followers are simply “searchers after Truth”. The Theosophists, in fact, are the dissatisfied with the world, dissenters from all creeds. They owe their origin to the wise men of India, and are numerous, not only in the far famed mystic East, but in England, France, Germany and Russia. They admit the existence of a God – not necessarily of a personal God. To them God is Nature and Nature is God…” – L. Frank Baum, Aberdeen Saturday Pioneer, January 25th 1890
After writing The Wizard of Oz, he explained his agenda to infuse occult ideas into his writing:
“There is a strong tendency in modern novelists towards introducing some vein of mysticism or occultism into their writings. Books of this character are eagerly bought and read by the people, both in Europe and America. It shows the innate longing in our natures to unravel the mysterious: to seek some explanation, however fictitious, of the unexplainable in nature and in our daily existence. For, as we advance in education, our desire for knowledge increases, and we are less satisfied to remain in ignorance of that mysterious fountain-head from which emanates all that is sublime and grand and incomprehensible in nature.”
“The appetite of our age for occultism demands to be satisfied, and while with the mediocrity of people will result in mere sensationalism, it will lead in many to higher and nobler and bolder thought; and who can tell what mysteries these braver and abler intellects may unravel in future ages?” -L. Frank Baum, Aberdeen Saturday Pioneer, February 22nd 1890
So here is one of the most famous novelists of all time, writing in the 1890s, that novels are tools to bring the occult to society. Is it no surprise that music, videos, movies and television would be used in this fashion as well? Do not be deceived.
When Jesus Christ was tempted by Satan in the wilderness, Satan offered him all the kingdoms of the world:
“And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.” – Luke 4:5-8.
Notice Jesus defeated Satan’s temptation by believing in The Word of God. And this is the same solution for all people today. Lord willing, it should now be apparent that the forces of Satan are working to spread their own message and entice society into rebellion against The Lord. But the answer is to believe in the Gospel. To believe in Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins and receive eternal life. No matter how far someone is from God, no matter what sin they have committed, no matter what ritual they have participated, salvation is offered to all people. In Ezekiel Chapter 18 God says: “For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live.”
A born again Christian receives a new spirit from God, that seeks to serve Him and not the world. And in this there is power over all the forces of darkness. The Apostle John explained why Christians do not have to fear these forces, which he calls “the spirit of antichrist”:
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. – 1 John 4:2-4.
When you receive God’s Holy Spirit, you have overcome the enemies of God because your soul is eternally secure. But it all begins with faith and believing that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, died for your sins, rose on the third day and now sits in Heaven with God The Father advocating on behalf of His saints. Hopefully Hollywood will start getting the message.
Great article B&E, I find it sickening how blatantly the media will promote Satanism and and occult practices, glorifying murder, criminal activity and debased living, while taking the opportunity to ridicule Christianity at every occasion!
It seems that in these Last Days, people have turned their back on the Truth of the Gospel of Christ and the bible in order to “create” their own “truth”. It will be interesting to see how long our Heavenly Father and Creator will suffer this Wicked Generation.
Keep up the good work B&E
Beginning and End says
Thanks very much Phil. It is much appreciated. contending for the faith of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as long as He tarries. God bless.
its important to not one flaw in your post (i havent read the whole thing just yet but most of it sounds pretty good…good post overall) that said there is an unpardonable sin. its mentioned ALOT.
you say “No matter how far someone is from God, no matter what sin they have committed, no matter what ritual they have participated, salvation is offered to all people.”
that is clearly in direct contradiction to numerous bible verses. that sin is to deny the Holy Ghost. the reason for this is simple enough. you can deny what your eyes see….such as Christ or heaven or other things…..however when spirits communicate it leaves absolutely no room for doubt to then deny that is in essence the biggest lie you can commit. for whatever reason a spirit speaking to your spirit is undeniable. i suppose thats why the Holy Ghost is part of bapitism to come down as an undeniable witness to the act. to be put it another way to be able to deny the Holy Ghost you must with 100% certainity know Christ is real….you must be more sure of His existence than you are of 2 + 2 = 4. you must be more sure of Christ being real than all else for it is undeniable to your very core. someone could torture you to death and you would still not deny His existence.
before i get blasted for Peter denying Christ 3 times…..for whatever reason the Holy Ghost isnt around when Christ is a mortal
John 7:39: “But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified”
so Jesus needed to complete the atonement for the Holy Ghost to come into full use. so Peter could not of denied the Holy Ghost as He was not yet given. im fairly certain it says this elsewhere too but i am too lazy to look.
i would also wager making a pact with Satan would be unpardonable as well. as both put you in full blown open rebellion against God.
Beginning and End says
Thanks for your comments. But nowhere in Scripture does it ever say that making a pact with Satan is unpardonable. This is never, ever said in the Bible. Ephesians 2 says:
This passage states that anyone who is unsaved is under the influence of Satan, the prince of the power of the air. It then goes on to say that same spirit was once a part of a born again Christian’s “conversation” or lifestyle, before being saved. So in short, every person who is not a believer had made a “pact with Satan” because they are unwittingly subject to his influence. But verse 5 says that even while we were spiritually dead, God created a way for us to come to life through Jesus Christ.
The Bible also never says that “denying the Holy spirit” cannot be forgiven. If you want to explain the unpardonable sin, as described by Jesus, from Scripture, then please feel free to. But what you have posted thus far is not in the pages of the Holy Bible.
do you just enjoy not reading what i post and making up an argument against it? while the above link used the ESV bible so its not exactly the same as the KJV but in the KJV it says almost the same thing in that link my point is you cannot tell me denying the Holy Ghost is pardonable when scripture says in a many places that it is in face unpardonable. lets look at what the defintion of blaspheme is.
1. to speak impiously or irreverently of (God or sacred things).
2. to speak evil of; slander; abuse.
3. to speak irreverently of God or sacred things; utter impieties.
what GOd seems to be stressing here is watch your tongue(and thoughts) when it comes to the Holy Ghost. That said because He is a Just and fair God i doubt you can actually accomplish this grave insult unless you have come into personal contact with The Holy Ghost and thus truly Deny God. because God doesnt punish us if we dont know better(cause that would be unjust and unfair) you would actually have to know God and The Holy Ghost to accomplish this. which makes this a particularly hard thing to accomplish because very very few truly know beyond any doubt that GOd is real which is likely why many dont know what these verses mean.
i will say this….not as an insult or anything so dont take offense here at all. but the only way to actually know what these verses speak of is through personal experience from that you will know how to deny the Holy Ghost and commit this sin.
that said its mentioned i numerous places
Mark 3: 28-29
28 aVerily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies bwherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29 But he that shall ablaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never bforgiveness, but is in danger of ceternal damnation:
there you cannot blaspheme or deny or whatever against the Holy Ghost
because i am simply to lazy to go look for the KJV versions and because its clear the KJV says you cannot deny the Holy Ghost ill just copy and paste the first 6 bible verses it posts here.
Mark 3:28-29 ESV / 15 helpful votes
“Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”—
Luke 12:10 ESV / 12 helpful votes
And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.
Matthew 12:31-32 ESV / 10 helpful votes
Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
1 John 5:16-18 ESV / 6 helpful votes
If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask, and God will give him life—to those who commit sins that do not lead to death. There is sin that leads to death; I do not say that one should pray for that. All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that does not lead to death. We know that everyone who has been born of God does not keep on sinning, but he who was born of God protects him, and the evil one does not touch him.
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Hebrews 6:4-8 ESV / 6 helpful votes
For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt. For land that has drunk the rain that often falls on it, and produces a crop useful to those for whose sake it is cultivated, receives a blessing from God. But if it bears thorns and thistles, it is worthless and near to being cursed, and its end is to be burned.
Matthew 12:32 ESV / 6 helpful votes
And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.
Matthew 12:31 ESV / 6 helpful votes
Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.
there clear as day you cannot deny or blaspheme the Holy Ghost. it is the true unforgivable sin. it is unpardonable.
as for this
“So in short, every person who is not a believer had made a “pact with Satan” because they are unwittingly subject to his influence. ”
ok what? theres a difference between under the influence and making a pact. you know making a pact would involve meeting Satan and making a deal right? you realize thats what making a pact means right? while i could be wrong about this but if i had to take a wild guess here….i would imagine meeting Satan and making a pact with Him would likely land you in a land of no forgiveness if i just had to take a wild guess. i cant imagine becoming allies with Gods greatest enemy is ripe with chances for forgiveness.
you also say this
“This passage states that anyone who is unsaved is under the influence of Satan”
you realize everyone is under the influence of Satan or at least subject to it right? heck just see the entire book of Job as proof i would really argue the entire bible and all of human history actually. Heck even Jesus had to say no to Satans temptations so Satan can tempt whoever He pleases at seemingly anytime. Jesus just never actually gave in. being bapitized or accepting Christ does nothing to negate the temptations of Satan or His influence it merely gives you more power to withstand them and by affect ultimately gives Satan less power over you but it doesnt take away the temptations or potential influences. again see the entire book of Job as proof.
Beginning and End says
You still have not shown a verse that says “denying the Holy Spirit” is unpardonable. You also have not shown how Peter committed this “unpardonable sin” but was somehow excepted from it, from Scripture. None of the verse you cite have the word “deny” in it. Words matter and have meaning, especially in the Bible. So once again, we can just to disagree.
P.S. I do believe there is an unpardonable sin in the Bible (more than one to be precise) but it’s just a very difficult thing to define Biblically, using Scripture in context. So we have to be careful before we start saying people are committing it, much less accusing the Apostle Peter.
i never said peter did i said because the Holy Ghost was not with peter at the time because Christ needed to be crucified Peter could not have committed this sin….again read what i post buddy lol
as for the word deny….you are right the deny part isnt said…..and i rather wish it was cause thats what it means. that being said until youve actually born complete witness of The Holy Ghost this sin will be lost on you. considering i have done this and am thus capable of committing this sin i know i am right. not to flaunt myself or brag or anything but i can tell you havent had this happen….i do encourage you to seek such a witness. but you know whether you are capable of committing this sin. i am capable. ive seen people that werent capable that now are capable and they switch from devout athiest to firm knowers of CHrist….maybe the most righteous people around but they never once deny God from that point on and seem fully aware of what sin they can commit and what it is.
this is unfortunently a part of the bible that is mangled over years of translations.
that said to blaspheme against THe Holy Ghost requires actually knowing the Holy Ghost. that much can be deducted from logic and reason and knowledge that God is just and fair and wont punish you for not knowing a sin is a sin. however to know the Holy Ghost is an entirely different beast. really to blaspheme means you are speaking great evil against Him. in fact that wording is worse than denying as really you dont even have to go as far as denying….but simply speak ill of Him. hmm perhaps there is an even easier way to commit this sin than i once thought. but i would consider denying and speaking evil of pretty close to the same. i stil suspect its suppose to be deny though.
reread what i posted about why spirits communicating with your spirit is what makes this unparadonable that is the reason. you really need to carefully consider that all of GOds words are not in the bible and much has been lost. this is just one of those things that the bible has lost.
Well, anyone who tries to quote corrupted scripture is going to be confused and cofuse others. The King James Bible is the perfect Word of God as He promised we would have and to believe that any Bible is the Word of God is spreading doubt, therefore where is your faith? You believe that God does not keep His promise and is not capable of preserving His perfect Word in English, seriously, ye of little faith. We are living in the church, we are under the Pauline Epistle, so not everything in the Bible is directed to us.
Do your research son, find God’s truth….you are on your way. Trust God, trust that He is capable of preserving His Perfect Word in English and quite spreading doubt.
I would have to agree somewhat with Kayne.
I’ve experienced a story told to me by my former Sunday school teacher.
He told me (us in the Sunday school class) that there was this lady who was saved but was backslid-en. While she was at restaurant for dinner, she stated that she no longer believed in the Holy Ghost and that the Holy Ghost was her husband that she was with instead! She actually called her husband the Holy Ghost!!! Talk about A BIG NO, NO! Total denial of Christ & evil speaking when she obviously knew better. She ended up falling ill about a week or two later and soon after she died. True story.
In my opinion I think that’s what real blasphemy falls under. It’s when you know something to be true and still deny & speak evil of it or them. Sorta like denying your mom gave birth to you, when you know for a fact the exact opposite is true, because all evidence points to the contrary. But with God it’s like x1,000,000!
I guess life and death are really in the power of the tongue! SAD!
Beginning and End says
In order to know what the unpardonable sin is, we should get it from Scripture, not personal experience. If the Bible is not the guide for our beliefs, then we can get off into all sorts of person-made ideas. This is why I disagree so strongly with Kayne who uses several different books and the teachings of many men on the same level as Bible Scripture.
just subscribing to this forgot to on first post dont know how to edit posts lol
WHOA ! B&E — You are TOTALLY off base here!!!!
Maybe somebody gave you phony still photos from somewhere else, but NONE of the imagery you’ve posted here appears anywhere in the LOVE IN THE OLD DAYS video! Got watch it yourself!
Here’s a link so you can see for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL-BhJcdJaE
First of all, this is old news. The GQ cover is from May of 2012. The EP (it wasn’t even a complete album)Franco & Daddy released was from Sept. 2012, along with the video for LOVE IN THE OLD DAYS. I recall watching it back then & thinking it was just eesh & nobody would pay any attention to it. Sure enough, the entire very little press & proved to be a big yawn.
The video is for a mostly spoken word track reflecting on old-school love from back in the 1960s, the era when Franco’s parents met. It features very romantic, hippy-dippy images, folks running on a beach (clothed). NO SATANIC IMAGERY WHATSOEVER! There’s a small amount of nudity that’s strictly PG-13 — a brief scene with a couple in bed, but none of their naughty bits are showing. The last frame is a photo Franco’s parents from their wedding. It’s all kinda sweet & definitely not demonic at all.
I must ask you to please post a link to the video you saw with all of these satanic scenes. If others don’t want to watch it, they don’t have to utilize the link. But I want to see what it is that you’re talking about. If a piece of art that I had created were misrepresented in such a horrible way, I’d be pissed & would want the situation corrected immediately.
Beginning and End says
I am a little surprised by your comments. I have watched the video myself, the actual video, not the one you linked to. It was released just a couple of weeks ago (it’s a remix). I will not be posting the link to the video but I will email it to you for you to see, along with an article from a very famous rock n roll magazine reviewing the video. In the article you will see that the video’s inspiration has nothing to do with Franco’s parents, the 60s etc.
The GQ cover was not posted to reference the video. It was posted to highlight that Franco is indeed a big Hollywood star. The article includes quotes from Franco explaining why he used Anger in the video. The video you link to does not have Kenneth anger in it. We also provide sourced quotes of Franco explaining that the idea for the video was “the marriage of hell.” So unless you are disputing the sources (which we link to), I am not sure as to where your strong objection is coming from.
But rest assured, the video you linked to is NOTHING like the new video that has been released.
OK, I got the link & yes, this is a completely different video than the one from last Sept.!!!! This remix doesn’t even sound like Franco is singing, or like it’s the same song. And it was so nasty I didn’t get past the first 60 sec!. Sorry fB&E or the confusion on my part.
My objection was because I’d seen the video from last Sept. & none of that satanic stuff was in tha tversion. I didn’t know Franco had re-recorded the track & shot a new video that dropped this week.
I’m sorry for the confusion! Even sorrier that Franco has chosen to involve himself in this kind of blatantly demonic behavior.
Are we even supposed to pray for a person like that, to ask God to help them repent & return to Him? This is not a deception or even ‘strong delusion’ — Franco clearly sought out these satanists intentionally. From what Isiah 47 says, he could end up suddenly & unexpectedly DEAD from what he’s done here! I getting sick of all this occult crap, but even I don’t wish that on anyone.
BTW, does what Franco did in this video qualify as the “unpardonable sin”, since he is obviously blaspheming God? I thought only true Christians could commit the unpardonable sin becuz you have to have truly known Christ first, then willingly rejected Him, to be guilty of unpardonable sin. But I’ve never been clear about that concept in scripture, so I’d appreciate your insight, B&E. (Sorry Kayne, but your explanation didn’t clarify anything.)
Yes, we should pray for people like this. I believe James is a victim of SRA and mind control. People tend to see things in black and white. The sad fact is that Satan has become more and more crafty and he’s stealing people’s minds from them without their consent. Look into MK Ultra and mind control. Have you wondered why there are so many shootings these days? It isn’t video games. It’s much more sinister than that. These victims are being programmed to do the devil’s bidding, to usher in the new world order, to usher in the anti-christ. Just like the body of Christ has many parts, so does Satan’s. He’s placing these people throughout society to influence the minds of unsuspecting victims. Teaching immorality through tv, movies, books, schools, Internet… It’s become the common mindset, people are asleep spiritually and see no correlation. So, yes, we should pray for James, pray for his salvation, pray that he comes to Christ and that his eyes are opened and that when that does happen, that The Lord would use his influence to wake up many other lost sheep.
Beginning and End says
Very well said.
^^^ And this is pretty much where you lost all credibility ^^^^
“Both Heaven and Earth shall pass away but my words are eternal.”
“God is not a man whom He should lie, shall He not say something and make it so?”
“Lean not unto your own understanding but in all ways acknowledge him.”
“I came not to call the righteous but sinners to repetance.”
“All have sin and fallen short of the glory of God.”
“There isn’t a righteous man on Earth who doeth good and sin not.”
“Judge not so ye not be judeged!.”
In response to Kanye my God is forgiving, so my question to you is who are you serving?!
Sorry looks like I re-posted this comment in the wrong place.
The Spirits that make the people do such evil are the Anti Christs. For we wrestle not against flesh & blood but against principalities & powers — wickedness in heavenly like places”. For a good measure against this is said”. ” For the one in you(given by God) is greater than the one in the world”. But when the souls are sold then these spirits take over., through deceiving methods. You have the world, but do not have God then you have nothing, but you have God & not the world then you have everything, in Him. To the happenings of the day is to know that the people behind Obamas to the Clintons are the Antichrists, in their Spirits.to all the wickedness spilling from them to the Biblical Prophecy of “Spiritual Sodom & Egypt”. Egypt to its Ancient beliefs & Sodom to the land of the latter days from which it spills out., Identified today as The Sodomic America. Alias “Babylon”.
@abey – That’s a stretch. You talk as if you know the Obamas and Clintons personally. You should try keeping politics out of your religion. Makes you a happier person.
The same way you speak of the separation of politics & religion is the very mistake America incorporated into its constitution misinterpretating the word of God to end up confining the Faith to the four walls, against expression of religious freedom through the subsequent laws, come off the very warning of Jesus “Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, Sadducees & Herod ” to the leavening of the laws & to know of the present Herod & his mate, is not required to know them personally for their ways to the Apostasy is written allover. As far as the error even projected by you is concerned what truth can Deistics through their Deism bring about in the long run other than what is seen. Sodom it is, Prophesied still.
Stephanie Nicole Marcum says
Thanks for the well written article. Due to the material you are presenting I imagine you are a frequent target for the enemy. Please remember to put on your armor. I’d suggest doing it before you get out of bed every morning. God bless you and keep you.
Beginning and End says
Thanks very much Stephanie. Your words are much appreciated as well as the reminder to put on my armor! God bless you abundantly.
LOVE JESUS says
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I watched the video aand saw none of these images. Is this for real or are you slandering
Beginning and End says
There are two versions of the video. When you find the alternate version I think you will see the article is real. -B&E