Open violence against Christians has now officially come to America.
In one of the worst acts of persecution against Christians in American history, a group of Christian evangelists were attacked, brutalized and stoned at an Arab Festival in Dearborn, Michigan. And the horrific event was all captured on video (which is below). The Dearborn police at the event not only did nothing to protect the Christians from the attacks, they kicked out the evangelists and later detained them on the street. This is some of the most blatant evidence of the rising anti-Christian sentiment in this country as the spirit of Antichrist rises in America
“Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.” Matthew 10:16.
It was a scene that looked straight out of a news report on Muslim violence in the middle east. At the 2012 Arab International Festival in Dearborn, which is an outdoor event held on public streets, Arthur Israel of the Christian public preaching ministry officialstreetpreachers.com and a group of evangelists, attended the event with signs that read “Jesus died as a ransom for many”, “without Jesus you will enter into the lake of fire” and other slogan and t-shirts proclaiming the Gospel of Christ. They stood together in a circle and barely spoke. In the opening of the video, a police officer instructs them to not use their megaphone (which the group used in 2011). Mr. Israel then asks the officer about the bottles that were being thrown at them and whether or not the police would do something to protect them to which the officer said the police would address anyone who threw things at them. The video then cuts to minutes after the officer leaves and the group of Christians are surrounded by an angry Muslim-American crowd who are hurling slurs and threatening the men with violence if they do not leave the event immediately. The anger and threats soon escalate until it is an all-out riot, with Christians being attacked brutally with rocks, bottles, eggs and even urine.
WARNING: this video contains graphic language and violence and is not suitable for children.
So that we may boldly say, The Lord [is] my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me. — Hebrews 13:6:
Notice that the Christian men do not once yell, curse or respond to the outrageous level of violence from the Muslim American crowd. Jesus said: “Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven..” (Matthew 5:38-42). Christianity teaches this kind of response to hatred, even acts of violence. And yet, the police offer no assistance while the attacks are taking place.
Officers claim they don’t have the manpower to protect the Christians at the festival. “Your safety is in harm’s way. You need to protect everybody,” said Deputy Chief Mike Jaafar of the Wayne County Sheriff’s Office, who is Muslim American. “You do have the option to leave. I just want to make that clear.”
Israel replied, “You have the option to stand with us” as Jaafar walked away, leaving the Christians to the mob. When police leave, the crowd continues harassing the Christians and screaming profanities. Then police begin escorting the Christians away from the crowd. (source)
Note that the police informed the Christian group that they could not spare even 2 officers to stand by and protect them at the event. However when it was time to forcefully escort the Christian men out, 14 officers walked with them and they were later followed pulled over and detained outside by another 12 officers.
Dearborn Michigan – Pro-Muslim and anti-Christian History
Arthur Israel, his forehead wounded from being attacked, walks peacefully through the Arab International Festival. (photo credit: legalizejesus.com)
Prov. 29:25: The fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be safe.
Dearborn, which has the largest Muslim population of any city in the United States, has been a hotbed for anti-Christian activity and clear pro-Muslim bias in the past. At this same event in 2010 and 2011, Christians were arrested for distributing Gospel tracts at the public event. Here is a video of the police at the 2010 Arab International Festival descending on and arresting Christians from the ACTS 17 Ministry who are not even in the festival but standing outside of it.
Deputy Police Chief Jaafar was also featured on the TLC reality show, All-American Muslim, which sought to counter the stereotypes of Islam as violent or extreme. In our article on Tim Tebow, we also noted that while Christian high football coaches where being punished for bowing their heads in prayer before games, the public High School in Dearborn had their football teams move their practice to midnight until 4 AM just to accommodate Muslim students who were fasting during the day for the month of Ramadan.
Jesus Christ prophesied the hatred and violence that His followers would experience for proclaiming his name, saying “Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.” (Matthew 24:9). After Jesus’ resurrection and ascension to Heaven, the first century Apostles experienced threats of violence, attacks and jail time for preaching the Gospel. In restricted nations such as Saudi Arabia, Iran and North Korea, holding a Christian church service can lead to being murdered. Open possession of a Bible and the sharing of the Gospel are all simple activities which can simply get you killed. So seeing an awful display in America, one wonders where the media coverage of this riot was? Why are the mainstream news outlets ignoring this attack? And just as the police at Dearborn were not concerned, the Obama administration showed the same lock of concern as it, for the first time since its inception removed the section on Christian persecution from its 2012 Human Rights report. President Obama hails the success of the Arab Spring and calls Islam a religion of peace, yet oddly is silent on the persecution against Christians in those same Arab Spring nations that has increased under their new Islamic regimes.
And now the anti-Christian violence has come to the shores of America. As American society continues to angrily reject God, embrace immorality and use any opportunity to blaspheme the name of Jesus Christ, it is no surprise that the freedom practice Christianity freely and speak in public is being restricted. Pray against the spirit of violence that was displayed and for the Christians in Dearborn to continue to persevere in the faith against this opposition. And that they continue to not respond in violence, but demonstrate the love of Jesus Christ, who was taunted, attacked and beaten before being executed. All to save the souls of the very people who were attacking them. And that is what spreading the good news of the Gospel is all about. Christians street preachers seek to help the public know that there is nothing more important than securing eternal life and forgiveness from God through Jesus Christ. And like the Apostles of the first century and Jesus Himself, Christian must continue to fulfill the Great Commission and share the Gospel of Jesus Christ, even in the face of increasing opposition and violence.
The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? When the wicked, even mine enemies and my foes, came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell. Though an host should encamp against me, my heart shall not fear: though war should rise against me, in this will I be confident. — Psalm 27:1-3.
Gabriel.
Rather be afraid Jesus’ witness against YOU on Judgement Day. Telling people that they’ll go to hell if they do not accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour is not “terrorizing” them. Rather go read a Bible- preferably a King James- and ask Jesus to reveal Himself to you, ask Him to show you that He is what the Bible says He is.
God bless you!
@BeginningAndEnd. When I first glanced at the title of this article,I thought it was about Christians who were attacked in another country.When I clicked on the article,I was surprised that this happened in America.I had this silly idea that Born Again Christians wouldn’t go through physical persecution in this country until after the rapture.I expected verbal persecution,but I actually thought physical persecution in America,would happen to the people that were left behind and later on became a Born Again Christian.After reading this article,it’s clear that I was wrong.I guess I’ve gotten use to this kind of physical persecution happening in other countries,but not in the USA.But I guess that’s part of what happens when we follow in Jesus Christ foot steps.The spirit of the antichrist seems to be in high gear.Good job at pointing out,how the media has been silent on this.I guess this incident doesn’t fit in with their theme that Born Again Christians are bad and every other religion is good and harmless.
George Carlin –
“Religion is just mind control.”
-George Carlin, comedian
Thomas Jefferson –
“History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose. ” – Thomas Jefferson to Baron von Humboldt, 1813
“The Christian god can easily be pictured as virtually the same god as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites.”
“Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity.” –Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782.
“And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.” –Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823
“Religions are all alike – founded upon fables and mythologies.”
“I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature.”
“Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man.”
“It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are 20 gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.”
– Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President, author, scientist, architect, educator, and diplomat
Soooo, none of you “christians” saw any other videos than the ones above, huh? The camera-man for the submitted videos was really good at editing, because they WERE yelling and screaming at kids. They told a group of boys they were going to burn in hell. They DID have a pig’s head on a stake, and were using stereotypical slurs about pork and their genetics. Get a grip. The “War on Christmas” is fake and make-believe news for Faux to whip you into a frenzy so we have warm bodies to stick on the front lines to take bullets for us.
Total war cost in human lives:
U.S. – over 15 thousand, about 6 thousand (including 5,000 from 9/11) were innocent
Iraq and Afghanistant – Over a million, and I would have to imagine that less than 10% were actual terrorists, and not collateral damage. Almost 900,000 dead for living in Iraq and Afghanistan when a militant muslim blew up one of our buildings. Good thing it’s not us, right? That would just be unfair -.-
I so agree. Dont u just love how they edit and photo shop their fukin lies.
hahaha seems the writer was cryin while writin ths article.
He only sees ths false sh#t lie, he doesnt see wht muslimz today suffer bc0Z Of ur damn amerika. He doesnt c the warz, bombardments and dr0nes on muslimz, what he sees is only that sum christians were st0ne, gr8 l0gic punk but u d0nt even knw the art of writing. And h0w cn u even thnk that such a matter in US will n0t b sh0wn in false media? Why didnt u thnk that it will b sh0wn 5 tyms bigger than it really is.
D0nt p0ison the mindz of ppl whle there still r al0t m0re d0ing ths j0b m0re effectively.
Blessa..ign0rant.
Just a question! What were you doing at a Muslim Arab Festival holding up those Violent signs, that are non-Christian??? I’m quite sure if it was reversed, you would demand they leave too! Hypocrisy is a sin!!
Interesting post! I will have to say though that it looks like these people went looking for a confrontation. Probably in an attempt to demonstrate this depraved religion. There is a Bible verse that I believe fits this situation and it says this:
” Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and tear you.” (Matthew 7:6)
If they want to save Muslims from their self-deceptions they need to be wiser about it. If they want to launch a political anti-muslim crusade, they should go armed and ready to fight. Ruthless people are only subdued by those who are more ruthless. They see anything less as weakness to be taken advantage of. That has been illustrated throughout history.
From an American point of view, I don’t think the Muslim religion should be given the freedoms of our country since they are blatantly criminal in their behavior. Just because it is a religion should not mean that they are exempt from accountability for their behaviors. Their religious laws are cruel and inhumane. They breed terrorists and call them martyrs. Anyone who is not Muslim to them is an adversary to be deceived or destroyed, if not converting to Islam.
However, as true Christians, we are to be witnesses of Christ in wisdom and true Christ-like character. What would Christ do? He would intreat the heart of a person with patience and love and truth. We must demonstrate the glory of his Devine Nature, rather than demonstrate for the sake of confrontation.
I hope this video reaches the entire church in USA. Your bold witness is a strength to us. Thank you for the way you behaved. Despite the hostility, I am confident that this silent preaching of the gospel has been effective in touching numerous lives with truth. Our battle is not against flesh and blood…..
Be strong and courageous!
and having done all to stand, stand.
you are loved by Him and His body.
U r a complete moron
As much As I hate to see this it appears to me by being at the event they are just provoking the Muslims. Especially by using the megaphone.
The Muslim violence even extends onto high school football games. A Christian High School was beating one of Dearborn High School’s football teams rather badly in a state playoff game. Late in the forth quarter the quarterback took a knee and the Muslim players went a head leveled the quarterback even though the play end when the quarterback took a knee. Just think what is going to happen when these young Muslim get older. .They disrespect non Muslims now. This where the next group of terrorist are going to come from. Their parents and their Imans are training them to go after non Muslims. If you notice in thwe video the Muslim parents stoud back and did nothing to stop these young kids. I hope the Christian high schools meet the high school meets the high school from Dearborn in the playoff s next year and that that they run up the score as high as they can. I hope they are still trying to throw touchdown passes as time runs out.
Someone needs to teach those F’n Muslims that Jihad can work both ways.
U r an idiot. Sadly u dont know the meaning of jihad
I don’t agree with the Muslims throwing things at the christians, but the christians knew ahead of time that they were going to confront the Muslims and provoke them.
I cannot shed a tear for any group that deliberately provokes another group with any kind of action.
Free Speech? Where was the free speech and free living of *ALL* those non-believers who lost their lives because of the promotion of christianity?
What about all the men, women, children and even unborn babies who lost their lives because of the brutality of christians? What about the in human torture the unbelievers suffered through even unto death at the hands of christians?
Now that the shoe is on the other foot, the truth will indeed come out.
You said “What about all the men, women, children and even unborn babies who lost their lives because of the brutality of christians? What about the in human torture the unbelievers suffered through even unto death at the hands of christians?”
You are clearly referring to Roman Catholic history. These abominable acts had nothing to do with true Bible believing Christianity. The people who committed these acts were not true Christians, but rather power mad pagans who wore a name tag that said “Christian.”
Bible believing Christianity teaches love, humility and compassion for your neighbor, not brutality and torture. To put Roman Catholicism in the same boat as Bible believing Christianity is like putting a cat and a mouse in a boat and expecting them to get along. It is just not possible nor makes any sense for that matter.
Bottom line, God fearing Bible believing Christians weren’t responsible for the atrocities of Roman Catholicism, but rather wolves in sheep’s clothing.
“You are clearly referring to Roman Catholic history. These abominable acts had nothing to do with true Bible believing Christianity. The people who committed these acts were not true Christians, but rather power mad pagans who wore a name tag that said “Christian.” ”
Ahem. Can you tell me just where I specifically referred to Roman Catholic history? I specifically pointed out christians and *NO ONE ELSE*. Christians have been hunting down non-believers for centuries – even doing it now to see if they can somehow twist things around and make others believe as they do. If not, they are ostracized, shunned, run off the road, murdered and other heinous acts of atrocities.
Are you still in the mind set to try to change things so they’ll seem the way you want them to seem and not what they really are? If so, that is nothing but an extension of which edition of the bible you believe in, and exactly which verses you choose to believe in.
As far as wolves in sheep’s clothing, I bet you’re still howling at the moon when it’s full.
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you said: “Can you tell me just where I specifically referred to Roman Catholic history?”
The Roman Catholicism has this long and bloody history rather than God fearing Bible believing Christians. It wasn’t just pagans they killed either. The Roman Catholic papacy hunted down, tortured and killed Bible believing Christians as well my friend. The Inquisitions and the persecution of the Waldenses are perfect examples.
You also mentioned: “Christians have been hunting down non-believers for centuries – even doing it now to see if they can somehow twist things around and make others believe as they do. If not, they are ostracized, shunned, run off the road, murdered and other heinous acts of atrocities.”
Seems like you are confusing Islam and Christianity. Islam is the religious movement nowadays killing people who refuse to convert. As far as Bible believing Christians committing these heinous acts nowadays… Where is your proof? Because all I see is empty accusations.
you also mentioned: “I bet you’re still howling at the moon when it’s full.
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lol not quite my friend. God Bless.
Oh really? Once again you are the one who is trying to side swipe things and place the blame on others of your religion and of other religions such as Islam.
Just another part of the lies that christians have been accustomed to using from the beginning of their religion.
God bless? Which one are you talking about? There are over 10,000 gods that man has created just like your god. Your god can’t bless anything because it doesn’t exist.
As far as your man made messiah, it took the Council of Nicea to *DECIDE* that he was a son of a god, and also that he was part of the trinity. You have to decide someone is a son of a god? That’s pretty far fetched there.
I have to ask you a question of reality here: Just how much did you jump up and shout and praise your man made god and bejebus when you found out that Maralyn Murry O’Hair had been found murdered? Be honest here. Inquiring minds would love to know.
BTW, did you just happen to forget about the christian crusades, the Salem Witch trials, the scouring of both North America and South America by the christian explorers who raped, pillaged, tortured, scalped, and murdered every man, woman and child in sight?
Many of the atrocities were done by priests in the name of your most unholy jesus’ name. Or, did you conveniently forget just like many of the other episodes where christians have found someway to dispel the truth that is called history?
Again, inquiring minds really want to know.
When you mention the Crusades, etc, once again you are referring to the history of Roman Catholicism which has nothing to do with true Bible believing Christianity. Alot of people like to put the two together such as yourself, but anyone with even the slightest knowledge of true Bible Christianity would know that Roman Catholicism is pure pagan.
It’s like Jesus said “You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!” (john 8: 44-45)
Just because a religion or movement attaches the name Jesus to it means pretty much nothing. Paul said… “(2 Corinthians 11:3,4) “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.”
There is ‘another Jesus’ being taught and it is distinctly separate from the Jesus of the Bible.
As far as God being a figment of the imagination as you implied. All I will say is that you have a great deal of faith my friend. It takes more faith to be an atheist than it does to believe in the Bible and be a Christian.
God Bless.
Once again you try to defer your own religion’s involvement with world events, and try to blame it on other religions or sects.
This is one of many reasons I’m no longer a christian myself. I learned long ago just how far my former religion will go to continue the lies set forth within the confines if the church.
You continue to dodge the direct questions put to you. And, you refer to my being an atheist. Let me tell you this: if you do not believe in the other 10,000+ gods, then you are no less an atheist than I am. You just believe in one more man made god than I do.
Keep referring to your biblical scriptures. I also am well versed. I am quite aware that the King James Version of the bible has over 33,000 serious errors in it, and many more lesser errors. If it were a math class it would fail miserably because it can’t add up at all.
Even the new testament is wrought with contradictions out the ying-yang. The texts were either edited and added to or deleted from by mistake or done so on purpose because the scribes or the church wanted the texts to read the way they wanted them to read.
Oh? So you mean it doesn’t say what it is supposed to say? That’s right.
I have a deep feeling you were involved in this so called protest against the Muslim Arabs. In reviewing the footage, I didn’t see any women in that group of christian protesters – yet there were women in the Muslim crowd.
What was up with that? Did you want your women to be kept silent and in the kitchen doing only “women’s chores” or was the real story that you knew there was a confrontation coming and it could/would be violent? This was the second year of the protest and they knew ahead of time it was going to be rough.
I’d say they deserved everything they had coming to them. Just like christians of yesteryear and today: You want your rights, but you don’t want anyone else having EQUAL rights whether it is religious or non-religious rights at all.
Just for your information: The Treaty of Tripoli definitely stated the United States is not a Nation built on/of religion/christianity.
And I quote: “The treaty was a routine diplomatic agreement but has attracted later attention because the English version included a clause about religion in the United States.
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries. ”
This treaty was written in part by some of the same members that signed our Constitution of the United States.
So, there. Get over it. It’s about time Everyone else had the same rights as you and your self elevated religion has.
Before the New Testament of the Bible was published, it was edited by a group of politically motivated clerics in the 4th Century acting as the famous Council of Nicea.
Christianity was young and still working out the kinks when Constantine took power over the Roman Empire in A.D. 306. Christian doctrine at the time was muddled and inconsistent, especially when it came to the central question of Jesus’ relationship to God.
Jesus was as eternally divine as the Father, said one camp led by the Archbishop Alexander of Alexandria. Another group, named the Arians after their leader Arius the preacher, saw Jesus as a remarkable leader, but inferior to the Father and lacking in absolute divinity.
Supporters on both sides scrawled graffiti on town walls in defiance while bishops from across the empire entered into a war of words as the controversy simmered to a head in 324.
Fearing unrest in his otherwise peaceful territory, Constantine summoned the bishops to his lake house in Nicea on June 19, 325.
The statement above isn’t entirely correct. The Council of Nicea came together to resolve the escalating quarrels and controversy within church leadership concerning theological issues like the deity of Christ, Trinity, etc. They voted to make the full deity of Christ and the Trinity the accepted position for the church.
And here is where your above statement is inconsistent. They didn’t change or invent any of these doctrines, rather this council only ended up recognizing and confirming what the Apostles’ taught, and systematized the doctrines.
The entire New Testament wasn’t published in one single book at the time but the entire New Testament was in circulation. The actual New Testament we read today in our modern Bibles was recognized way before the Council of Nicea. And this isn’t my opinion but historical and archaeological fact.
There is no literary rival in the ancient world to the number of manuscript copies and the early dating of the New Testament. There are 5,300 Greek, 10,000 Latin, and 9,000 miscellaneous copies of the New Testament that exist today and more continue to be unearthed via archaeology.
Be careful where you get you info from my friend, it is your eternity at stake. God bless
Exactly. The Council of Nicea is basically irrelevant to Biblical Christianity as it had no impact on what made up the Bible back then or today. It’s only because of the Da Vinci Code’s fictional account that it’s even mentioned.
Mister beginning and end! Long time no see. Not really. lol
These posts are fire! Your getting all kinds of characters on here.
What’s up Peter. This thread is definitely alive and jumping. I welcome it. I am honored and blessed to have such a diversity of thoughts and perspectives on here. I hope we can continue to share, discuss and argue respectfully and grow from it!
definitely! I learned alot from our collaboration on the other post.
In a savvy move that would put today’s shrewd politicians to shame, the compromise proffered by Constantine was vague, but blandly pleasing: Jesus and God were of the same “substance,” he suggested, without delving too much into the nature of that relationship. A majority of the bishops agreed on the compromise and voted to pass the language into doctrine.
Their statement of compromise, which would come to be known as “The Nicene Creed,” formed the basis for Christian ideology. The bishops also used the Council of Nicea to set in stone some church rules that needed clarification, and those canons were the reference point after which all future laws were modeled.
As a final order of business, the bishops decided upon a date for the holiest of Christian celebrations, Easter, which was being observed at different times around the empire. Previously linked with the timing of Passover, the council settled on a moveable day that would never coincide again with the Jewish holiday — the first Sunday after the first full moon on or after the vernal equinox.
Whereever you are getting you info it is complete fallacy. As I said before, The Nicene Creed didn’t change or invent any of these doctrines, rather this council only ended up recognizing and confirming what the Apostles’ taught, and systematized the doctrines.
Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity. What have been the effects of coercion? To make one half of the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and terror all over the earth. Let us reflect that it is inhabited by a thousand millions of people. That these profess probably a thousand different systems of religion. That ours is but one of that thousand.
Thomas Jefferson
Once again this is a quote referring to the history of Roman Catholicism which has nothing to do with real Biblical Christianity as I mentioned earlier so I don’t need to go into detail about that again.
Hitler Was a Christian
http://www.evilbible.com/hitler_was_christian.htm
The Holocaust was caused by Christian fundamentalism:
History is currently being distorted by the millions of Christians who lie to have us believe that the Holocaust was not a Christian deed. Through subterfuge and concealment, many of today’s Church leaders and faithful Christians have camouflaged the Christianity of Adolf Hitler and have attempted to mark him an atheist, a pagan cult worshipper, or a false Christian in order to place his misdeeds on those with out Jesus. However, from the earliest formation of the Nazi party and throughout the period of conquest and growth, Hitler expressed his Christian support to the German citizenry and soldiers. Those who would make Hitler an atheist should turn their eyes to history books before they address their pews and chat rooms.
Considering that Christianity has thus far been incapable of producing an unbiased, educated follower which speaks the truth, (I haven’t encountered any), I have been forced to dispel the myth by writing this essay. It is not until I bring up his speeches, my personal info on the Nazi regime and their tactics that a Christian will begin to question what their clergy told them. (I am the offspring of a German soldier. My Opa served under Hitler in WW2 and my father was raised during the time of the Nazi regime. This is important information to take into consideration for I am privy to some info that most Americans do not know. It is common for American media and education institutions to lie to their citizens concerning Nazi Germany.) So, in presenting this information I must break it into four parts: 1) Facts about Hitler and his involvement with the Church. 2) How the Church was the catalyst for anti- Semitism. 3) Facts concerning how the Nazi regime drilled these beliefs into Germanic society. 4) Quotes Hitler made which prove he had a disdain for atheism/occultism, upheld his Christian faith, and hated Jews due to his Christianity.
Hitler’s involvement with the Church:
a) Hitler was baptized as Roman Catholic during infancy in Austria.
b) As Hitler approached boyhood he attended a monastery school. (On his way to school young Adolf daily observed a stone arch which was carved with the monastery’s coat of arms bearing a swastika.)
c) Hitler was a communicant and an altar boy in the Catholic Church.
d) As a young man he was confirmed as a “soldier of Christ.” His most ardent goal at the time was to become a priest. Hitler writes of his love for the church and clergy: “I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal.” -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
e) Hitler was NEVER excommunicated nor condemned by his church. Matter of fact the Church felt he was JUST and “avenging for God” in attacking the Jews for they deemed the Semites the killers of Jesus.
f) Hitler, Franco and Mussolini were given VETO power over whom the pope could appoint as a bishop in Germany, Spain and Italy. In turn they surtaxed the Catholics and gave the money to the Vatican. Hitler wrote a speech in which he talks about this alliance, this is an excerpt: “The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state by the Catholic Church. This treaty shows the whole world clearly and unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism [Nazism] is hostile to religion is a lie.” Adolf Hitler, 22 July 1933, writing to the Nazi Party
g) Hitler worked CLOSELY with Pope Pius in converting Germanic society and supporting the church. The Church absorbed Nazi ideals and preached them as part of their sermons in turn Hitler placed Catholic teachings in public education. This photo depicts Hitler with Archbishop Cesare Orsenigo, the papal nuncio in Berlin. It was taken On April 20, 1939, when Orsenigo celebrated Hitler’s birthday. The celebrations were initiated by Pacelli (Pope Pius XII) and became a tradition.
Each April 20, Cardinal Bertram of Berlin was to send “warmest congratulations to the Fuhrer in the name of the bishops and the dioceses in Germany with “fervent prayers which the Catholics of Germany are sending to heaven on their altars.” (If you would like to know more about the secret dealings of Hitler and the Pope I recommend you get a book titled: Hitler’s Pope: The Secret History of Pius XII, by John Cornwell)
h) Due to Hitler’s involvement with the Church he began enacting doctrines of the Church as law. He outlawed all abortion, raged a death war on all homosexuals, and demanded corporal punishment in schools and home. Many times Hitler addressed the church and promised that Germany would implement its teachings: “The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavor to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines (Lehren), and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of today.” –Adolf Hitler, on 26 June 1934, to Catholic bishops to assure them that he would take action against the new pagan propaganda “Providence has caused me to be Catholic, and I know therefore how to handle this Church.” -Adolf Hitler, reportedly to have said in Berlin in 1936 on the enmity of the Catholic Church to National Socialism
How Christianity was the catalyst of the Holocaust:
Hitler’s anti-Semitism grew out of his Christian education. Austria and Germany were majorly Christian during his time and they held the belief that Jews were an inferior status to Aryan Christians. The Christians blamed the Jews for the killing of Jesus. Jewish hatred did not actually spring from Hitler, it came from the preaching of Catholic priests and Protestant ministers throughout Germany for hundreds of years. The Protestant leader, Martin Luther, himself, held a livid hatred for Jews and their Jewish religion. In his book, “On the Jews and their Lies,” Luther set the standard for Jewish hatred in Protestant Germany up until World War 2. Hitler expressed a great admiration for Martin Luther constantly quoting his works and beliefs.
Now, you must remember before Hitler rose to Chancellor of Germany the country was in a deep economic depression due to the Versailles treaty. The Versailles treaty demanded that Germans made financial reparations for the previous war and Germany simply was not self sufficient enough in order to pay the debt. Hitler was the leader that raised Germany out of the depression and brought them back to a world recognized power. Due to his annulment of the financial woes of the Germanic people he became their redeemer and they anointed him as the leader of the German Reich Christian Church in 1933. This placed him in power of the German Christian Socialist movement which legislates their political and religious agendas. It united all denominations, mainly the Protestant/Catholic and Lutheran people to instill faith in a national Christianity.
How the Nazi Regime converted the people:
a) In the 1920s, Hitler’s German Workers’ Party (pre Nazi term) adopted a “Programme” with twenty-five points (the Nazi version of a constitution). In point twenty-four, their intent clearly demonstrates, from the very beginning, their stand in favor of a “positive” Christianity: “We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the morality and moral sense of the German race. The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession…”
b) The Nazi regime started a youth movement which preached its agenda to impressionable children. Hitler backed up the notion that all people need faith and religious education: “By helping to raise man above the level of bestial vegetation, faith contributes in reality to the securing and safeguarding of his existence. Take away from present-day mankind its education-based, religious- dogmatic principles– or, practically speaking, ethical-moral principles– by abolishing this religious education, but without replacing it by an equivalent, and the result will be a grave shock to the foundations of their existence.” – Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
c) The Nazi regime began to control schools insisting that Christianity was taught.
d) The Nazi regime included anti-Semitic Christian writings in textbooks and they were not removed from Christian doctrines until 1961.
e) The Nazi regime having full blown power over the people began to forcibly convert all its military.
f) The Nazi regime forced the German soldiers to wear religious symbols such as the swastika and they placed religious sayings on military gear. An example here is this German army belt buckle (I believe my Opa had one) which reads “Gott Mit Uns”. For those of you who do not speak German it is translated as “God With Us”.
g) The German troops were often forced to get sprinkled with holy water and listen to a sermon by a Catholic priest before going out on a maneuver.
h) The Nazis created a secret service called the “SS Reich” that would act as spies on the dealings of other citizens. If anyone was suspected of heresy (Going not only against the Socialist party but CHURCH DOCTRINE) they would be prosecuted.
Quotes from Hitler:
Hitler’s speeches and proclamations, even more clearly, reveal his faith and feelings toward a Christianized Germany. Nazism presents an embarrassment to Christianity and demonstrates the danger of their faith So they try to pin him on other theistic views. The following words from Hitler show his disdain for atheism, and pagan cults, and reveal the strength of his Christian feelings:
“National Socialism is not a cult-movement– a movement for worship; it is exclusively a ‘volkic’ political doctrine based upon racial principles. In its purpose there is no mystic cult, only the care and leadership of a people defined by a common blood-relationship… We will not allow mystically- minded occult folk with a passion for exploring the secrets of the world beyond to steal into our Movement. Such folk are not National Socialists, but something else– in any case something which has nothing to do with us. At the head of our programme there stand no secret surmisings but clear-cut perception and straightforward profession of belief. But since we set as the central point of this perception and of this profession of belief the maintenance and hence the security for the future of a being formed by God, we thus serve the maintenance of a divine work and fulfill a divine will– not in the secret twilight of a new house of worship, but openly before the face of the Lord… Our worship is exclusively the cultivation of the natural, and for that reason, because natural, therefore God-willed. Our humility is the unconditional submission before the divine laws of existence so far as they are known to us men.” -Adolf Hitler, in Nuremberg on 6 Sept.1938. [Christians have always accused Hitler of believing in pagan cult mythology. What is written here clearly expresses his stand against cults.]
“We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.” -Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933 [This statement clearly refutes modern Christians who claim Hitler as favoring atheism. Hitler wanted to form a society in which ALL people worshipped Jesus and considered any questioning of such to be heresy. The Holocaust was like a modern inquisition, killing all who did not accept Jesus. Though more Jews were killed then any other it should be noted that MANY ARYAN pagans and atheists were murdered for their non-belief in Christ.]
Here Hitler uses the Bible and his Christianity in order to attack the Jews and uphold his anti-Semitism:
“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.” –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)
“Christianity could not content itself with building up its own altar; it was absolutely forced to undertake the destruction of the heathen altars. Only from this fanatical intolerance could its apodictic faith take form; this intolerance is, in fact, its absolute presupposition.” -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (It is quite obvious here that Hitler is referring to destructing the Judaism alters on which Christianity was founded.)
“The personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew.” -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (The idea of the devil and the Jew came out of medieval anti-Jewish beliefs based on interpretations from the Bible. Martin Luther, and teachers after him, continued this “tradition” up until the 20th century.)
“With satanic joy in his face, the black-haired Jewish youth lurks in wait for the unsuspecting girl whom he defiles with his blood, thus stealing her from her people.” -Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (It is common in war for one race to rape another so that they can “defile” the race and assimilate their own. Hitler speaks about this very tactic here.)
“The best characterization is provided by the product of this religious education, the Jew himself. His life is only of this world, and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our present- day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles with atheistic Jewish parties– and this against their own nation.”–Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
“…the fall of man in paradise has always been followed by his expulsion.” -Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf (See Genesis Chapter 3 where humankind is cast from Eden for their sins. Hitler compares this to the need to exterminate the Jews for their sin against Christ.)
“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” –Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
“The anti-Semitism of the new movement [Christian Social movement] was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.” –Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (This quote is very interesting for it disperses the idea that Hitler raged war due to being an Aryan supremacist. He states quite clearly that he has a problem with Jews for their belief not race. That is why many German Jews died in WW2 regardless of their Aryan nationality.)
“Only in the steady and constant application of force lies the very first prerequisite for success. This persistence, however, can always and only arise from a definite spiritual conviction. Any violence which does not spring from a firm, spiritual base, will be wavering and uncertain.” –Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf (Here Hitler is admitting that his war against the Jews were so successful because of his strong Christian Spirituality.)
Quotes from Other Nazis about Hitler and Religion:
“Around 1937, when Hitler heard that at the instigation of the party and the SS vast numbers of his followers had left the church because it was obstinately opposing his plans, he nevertheless ordered his chief associates, above all Goering and Gobbels, to remain members of the church. He too would remain a member of the Catholic Church, he said, although he had no real attachment to it. And in fact he remained in the church until his suicide.” (Inside the Third Reich by Albert Speer page 95-96)
@Adolf — God help anyone who believes all the words of politicians!! There have been many, many political candidates who have used the Christian religion as part of their “PR Campaign” while at the same time having no affinity with Christianity whatsoever. Mein Kampf was Hitler’s political RP blitz so he of course mirrored the religious tenor of his desired voters.
But when you look just a little bit deeper, it should become extremely obvious that Hitler was not a Christian. For one, he was a black magic practitioner. He was trained in the Thule Society, also known as the brotherhood of death.
His mentor Dietrich Eckhardt, (who he dedicates Mein Kampf to at the end of the book) was an occultist.
Hitler kept a copy of Madame Blavatstky’s book, The Hidden Doctrine, on his nightstand. Blavatsky was a Luciferian New Ager. The idea of using the swastika came from Blavatsky as she used it as one of the symbols of her esoteric societies.
And not to mention he changed the 10 commandments and made his own.
All this information can found in this very informative article:
http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n2246.cfm
Furthermore, the leadership of the Nazi party were all practicing witchcraft. This well-known historic fact at this point. Here is a book that goes into this in great detail.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Hitler_s_Master_of_the_Dark_Arts.html?id=DqNPJl439dwC
And here are some quotes from Hitler you may have missed:
“The heaviest blow which ever struck humanity was Christianity; Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew.”
– Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens, trans., (Oxford, 1953), Hitler’s Table-Talk, p. 7
“The law of selection justifies this incessant struggle, by allowing the survival of the fittest. Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure.”
– Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens, trans., (Oxford, 1953), Hitler’s Table-Talk, p. 51
14th October, 1941, midday:
” The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death…. When understanding of the universe has become widespread… Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity…. Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity…. And that’s why someday its structure will collapse…. …the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little…. Christianity the liar…. We’ll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State.” (Hitler’s Secret Conversations p 49-52- this was written by his personal secretary).
A child may be made to believe a falsehood and die in support of it, and therefore there can be no merit in a [mere] belief. We find in the various sects in Christendom, among the Jews, Mohammedans, Hindoos, in fact, throughout the entire world, that children are made to believe in the creed in which they are brought up….
Bibles are always written so obscure as to require priestly interpreters…[whose] means of salvation is to strangle every one they come in contact with who does not believe as they do; and the more Infidels and heretics they strangle the surer their reward in heaven, and the most pious and conscientious among them try to bring out the most human sacrifices.
Ernestine L. Rose
There are signs of progress in the movements of the age. The superstitions and idols in our midst are held up to the view of the people. Inquiring minds are asking, “Who shall show us any good?” These are dissatisfied with the existing forms and institutions of religious sects, and are demanding a higher righteousness – uprightness in everyday life. The standards of creeds and forms must be lowered, while that of justice, peace and love of one another must be raised higher and higher. “The earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord.” We wait for no imagined millennium – no speculation or arithmetical calculation – no Bible research – to ascertain when this shall be. It only needs that the people examine for themselves – not pin their faith on ministers’ sleeves, but do their own thinking, obey the truth, and be made free.
Lucretia Mott – 1848
Every child is born an atheist. They are then brainwashed to become christians if they have that kind of peer pressure.
Actually every child is born a sinner. And anyone who chooses to become a Bible believing Christian does so out of free-will. That’s the beauty of it. God isn’t going to force you to love him my friend. You can make your own choice about that.
If I held a gun to my wife’s head and said “love me,” there would be no real love because as soon as I put the gun down she’s out the door. And even if she stayed I know she was only staying because she didn’t want to get shot, not because she really loved me. God is the same way. When you chose to love God it’s your own choice and very personal.
Also, I second what Beginning and End said about Hitler. And lets be honest. You know very well Hitler wasn’t a Christian. lol I mean you have to make a better argument that that my friend. I am willing to talk with you as long as you want to talk with me, but put a little more effort my friend. I’ll wait for your reply.
A child is not a sinner. How can a child be born a sinner when it doesn’t even know there are any gods?
You say Hitler wasn’t a christain. Were you there when he confessed to his non-lord and savior – the same one that you confessed to? Did you know what was on his heart and what he said to that junior spook in the sky? Are you saying that when he took jesus as his savior that the promise wasn’t true?
You continue to dodge the questions by saying they are related to the Roman Catholic church. Why do you have such a dislike of a religion that is derived much like your own? You say Romans were pagans. Did you even have a clue that your very own religion is derived directly from pagan religions and celebrations?
You speak of free will. Is it the child’s free will to be raped, tortured and murdered by their assailant? Just where was that child’s free will then? Again, just like so many other christians I’ve known in my lifetime, you continue to dodge the real facts and spin your lies.
I know you didn’t sit in the same pews as I used to sit in when I was attending church, but you still have the exact same thinking as the people I listened to back then. There must be a central thought process of this mass brainwashing going on.
Why do you and your religion continue to promote the hatred for others that do not believe as you do? Why can’t you accept the fact that others can and will live their lives in comfort without your lying, murdering, terrorist brand of religion?
Do you believe in abortion? Do you believe no one has seen your man made god? Do you believe your man made god cannot tell a lie?
How about answering the questions that have been put to you from the beginning and quit dodging them?
You ask how I know Hitler wasn’t a Christian. This is how I know:
Jesus said you will know a tree by its fruit Matthew (7:15-23).
The Bible teaches the fruits of Satan are envy, malice, strife, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, impurity, debauchery, hate, etc, etc. and that they are of their father the devil (John 8:44)
While the Bible says and I can testify to this myself from experience that the fruits of the Holy Spirt living inside a person are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness and self control.
Now use your brain ‘that came from nothing’ as you would say and tell me which category Hitler falls into as well as the history of Roman Catholicism.
The Christian ‘religion’ I am involved in which is Bible believing Christianity is all about the fruits of the Spirit. Now, I don’t know about the Christianity you are talking about. It may be some kind of New Age Christianity who knows.
I am glad to hear you used to be in church. You may come around someday. It’s not like you don’t know the truth, you just are rejecting it at the present time. God Bless You my friend. I will pray for you that God would take the anger and hate from your heart and give you a heart of servitude and love for Christ Jesus.
So, you are saying that Hitler’s experience with your man made savior was invalid?
You’re saying that the so called promise is invalid? Or, better yet, if it is valid, then you’ll have a first hand experience with shaking hands with Hitler. Now, that would be a hoot!
On one hand you talk out of both sides of your mouth, on the other hand you stick your foot in your mouth. Interesting to say the least.
Tell me this: Why do you and the rest of your christian brothers and sisters insist on shoving your lying, murdering terrorist religion down everyone’s throats that you meet? Can’t you see it isn’t wanted in the majority of cases? Why do your people continue to lie, cheat, steal and then try to cover it up?
And, please answer the questions that have been put forth. Either put up or shut up.
‘Nuff said.
And, the proselytizing for me is over. I know a lie when I see it. You can fool me one time, maybe twice. But then I wise up.
It’s kind of like hitting me in the head with a 2″ X 4″ X 4’ board. It may smart the first two times, but after that. I’m move out of the way and then take it away from you and beat the shit out of you with it.
Wow I answered your question and now you’re just in denial. I made a very clear distinction between the fruit of a Bible believing Christian vs. a pagan wearing a Christian name tag. It’s obvious which category Hitler falls into.
Just because you attach the name Jesus to anykind of Gospel doesn’t make a person anymore a Christian than it makes me an Apostle.
“man made savior” you said. If you doubt Jesus existed I suggest you read the following article as well as study your history a little more. Proving Jesus existed is about as easy as me typing this message to you my friend.
https://beginningandend.com/jesus-exist-historical-evidence-jesus-christ/
And BTW. Before you tell me to have a blessed day, I am having a blessed day. I know the difference between religion and lies. Those two are bed partners.
Free Will? What else is there? “Free Will” is an illusion you chose to create….
Sam Harris – The Illusion of Free Will
” “Free Will” is an illusion you chose to create….”
Isn’t that statement contradictory on its face? If I “choose” to create an illusion myself, I’m exercising my free will.
No genius, it’s not a choice if God knows and sees all. If God knows what’s going to happen, then it will happen as God expected it would. That means, logically, free will is an illusion that you’re chosen to believe in; not that you choose to believe in it, but you were already determined to believe in before even knew what it was you were believing in. Computer programming, if you will.
Quite simply, there is free will, but it’s because God either doesn’t care, or isn’t there in the form you think. Maybe this universe is a really small mirror of a larger universe performing some black hole experiment in their physical reality. It would be all the same for us, from a relative perspective of time point-of-view.
You post alot of things from other people on here. What is YOUR opinion and views? If you want to prove me wrong than speak for yourself my friend. Everything you put on here is not something I haven’t heard before.
As far as free will is concerned. Think about it, If I chose to go smoke a cigarette today I did it because of free will. If I go eat a pizza for lunch I did it because I chose to do it . Free will.
Same thing with God. You are an atheist because you chose to be one. No one forces you to be an atheist. You are talking with me because you are choosing to talk with me. Free will
You are all products of your environment.
What if you are WRONG?
Like I said earlier you have alot of faith my friend. It takes more faith to be an atheist than it does to be a Christian.
Also, what Richard is saying isn’t accurate. I became a Christian on faith first, then after years of research and study found all the proof that backs up the faith through history, archaeology and then just plain experience.
I say it takes more faith to be an atheist because all of your accusations are based on emotions rather than facts.
Based on facts you say? Did you know the bible isn’t even historically correct? As I’ve told you before and you ignored it, the King James version of the bible has over 33,000 serious errors in it and even more less serious errors.
You are going to believe a book that was written by stone age goat & sheep herders that thought the earth was flat and that the earth was the center of the universe? It’s been proven long ago that was true either.
The stories told in the bible are hand me down stories with many of them being copy cat stories from other religions, sects of people etc. Ever hear of the Epic of Gilgamesh? That story came from the ancient Sumerians and is over 2000 years older than the first book of the bible. It also speaks of the floods. There are other cultures that also speak of the floods and they didn’t have anything to do with the bible.
You said “Did you know the bible isn’t even historically correct? As I’ve told you before and you ignored it, the King James version of the bible has over 33,000 serious errors in it and even more less serious errors.”
If the Bible has so many errors and contradictions be specific and show one of the 33,000 errors as there should be alot to chose from. If you have the knowledge of which you speak, show me.
You also said: The stories told in the bible are hand me down stories with many of them being copy cat stories from other religions, sects of people etc.”
You actually have that backwards my friend. The earth was created Genesis 1, then came the flood Genesis 6-9, God scattered the people over the entire planet Genesis 11. Each person took with them their own version of history at that time and over centuries the original Genesis account was distorted, exaggerated and formulated in to many different religions and cults. So you are basically seeing many different distortions of the original Genesis account. So it is the Genesis account that has been copied my friend since every culture has descended directly from the flood’s survivors.
You say that The Babylonian Gilgamesh epic and worldwide flood stories have nothing to do with the Bible, but in reality they actually have everything to do with the Bible, because they all represent different retellings of an identical flood tradition that came to pass during the time of history of Genesis 6-9.
Aw…I was really hoping to see Another View come back to tell us at least one of those 33,000 errors!!! One of the problems sneaking into the Church nowadays is the distrust in the KJV. Yet when I talk to people about it, all they want to do is throw articles and webpages at me – none of these people have done their own research or even tried to learn any form of Greek or Hebrew themselves. All it takes is someone to whisper in someone else’s ear that something *may* be incorrect and they just follow the most popular thing…
No thank you, I’ve done research and while I am not a scholar I can read some Greek and have my lexicon handy. Besides – I shouldn’t have to worry about breaking a copyright law when I use any version other than the KJV.
if it was reversed all the chrisitans throwing stuff would have been arrested. the attorney general should investigate this act of terror by the muslim brats throwing stuff at people just standing around. and fire the entire sheriff staff for not upholding the constitutional oathg they all took. the law enforcement in dearborn are all scared and need to be replaced by men and women of integraty. i will be praying to my God Jesus Christ for all who were involved in this act of overlooked terror. i will watch this video and pray for each person i see even though i do not know their names to Jesus Christ the only living God.
Yes you are probably right, the Christians would be arrested.
@Hope “violent signs” you say, I am assuming you are being sarcastic.
As for the actual article – I think it’s sad that we as a country seem to be ignoring what has been happening in Dearborn for years. I hope these people were not just going there to start something, but to actually try to lead the lost to Christ. They did not use megaphones this year (per officers orders), so that is always a good way to not be there to spew hate or stir up trouble.
But no one can WHOLEHEARTEDLY deny that if the roles were reversed, the Christians would be in jail and there would have been protection for the Muslims. ESPECIALLY once things started being thrown!!!
And I think it is funny that with the whole homosexual issue our country has been dealing with (not so well, either), it is the Christians under attack for their biblical stance, yet no one mentions how the Muslims will actually KILL…not just one or two lose cannons in the “flock” but that is what they are SUPPOSED to do! I find it frustrating that no one is realizing that through this the muslims are mostly staying quiet about the homosexual marriage, etc. – I think it is to try to ruin the Christian reputation … all I can say is look out America when you have persecuted and made Christianity illegal, because you have no clue what you are opening yourself up to. You think we are wrong for VOTING for what is biblical and peacefully protesting??? You just wait until we are all living in our own “Dearborn” – only MORE openly Muslim! INSTEAD of Christians like me (who have homosexual relatives that we love and pray for and talk to about their sin and turning from it) knocking on your door asking you to come to visit our church and talk about Christ, you are going to have people finding out that your relative is gay and they are going to be trying to run them over with their cars, put to death, etc.
And don’t tell me Muslims are peaceful and that would only happen with extremists. If they are really Muslim and tell you that, they are lying to you – I mean you are an infidel so they can use you any way they want to and lie to you so they can fulfill their duty. Good luck with that. As for me and my house? We WILL serve the Lord.
Well said!
I have a message special message to all the Islamic Jihad warriors out there. A message that just might save your lives if you are smart enough to read this. DON’T MESS WITH THE UNITED STATES!!!
This nation is different than any other that you have targeted in the past. Americans don’t tolerate animalistic behavior and we will defeat you because we are different from anyone you’ve faced before.
If you don’t believe me take a look at those f-15 fire jets screaming over your heads. Some of those are piloted be American women. That’s right! We don’t put our women in berkas, we put them in F-15s and send them after you guys. The mighty Mujahideen are being killed by American women, and the survivors are running and hiding from those American women. You might want to think about that before you bring your Jihad to America. We have the same kind of women living here in the states. I know because I’ve had to run and hide a couple of times myself. Lol
Now Oshma Bin Laden was in a fortress surrounded by security in the middle of a Pakistani military center and our guys swooped in, killed him and stole his body without losing a single American.
You might want to think about that because if you think our fighters are good in your land, wait until you try to fight them in the streets of America. If you bring Jihad to America you will not only have to fight our women and our military, you’ll also have to fight our National Guard, law enforcement officers, local militias, and border patrol.
And here’s the real kicker. 8 out of 10 American homes are well armed with shotguns, rifles, and handguns. That’s because we live in freedom! Not what you’re used to. It doesn’t matter how much money you donate to Democrats, they’re never gonna succeed in taking guns away from the American people. Jihad in America doesn’t have a chance!
So do yourselves a favor…. Don’t mess with the United States! Keep your Jihad right there in the Middle East where it belongs. Hey, every culture has it’s national sport. Ours is football… yours is Jihad.
While i am 100% for street preaching, when it is the gospel, and am 100% against persecuting Christians you should report what actually happened here. These guys went to a Muslim festival and had a pig’s head on a pole. That was carefully kept out of the video and that is what provoked the violence and that is why the police did not interfere.
Jehovah God wants us to use discernment when we witness to people. If I was the one going into that crowd I would not have had the big signs and instead I would have approached individuals and read them a scripture regarding how to attain everlasting salvation through Jesus Christ. If the crowd then continuses to become violent I would calmly leave because Jesus advice in Matthew 10:23 states it very well: “But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another;for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, til the Son of man be come.” This scripture does not say to stand there and take the abuse. There are others who have an open heart to the Word of God.
Love,
Hanan
Soooo, none of you “christians” saw any other videos than the ones above, huh? The camera-man for the submitted videos was really good at editing, because they WERE yelling and screaming at kids. They told a group of boys they were going to burn in hell. They DID have a pig’s head on a stake, and were using stereotypical slurs about pork and their genetics. Get a grip. The “War on Christmas” is fake and make-believe news for Faux to whip you into a frenzy so we have warm bodies to stick on the front lines to take bullets for us.
Total war cost in human lives:
U.S. – over 15 thousand, about 6 thousand (including 5,000 from 9/11) were innocent
Iraq and Afghanistant – Over a million, and I would have to imagine that less than 10% were actual terrorists, and not collateral damage. Almost 900,000 dead for living in Iraq and Afghanistan when a militant muslim blew up one of our buildings. Good thing it’s not us, right? That would just be unfair -.-
What does it matter what a bunch of chaff in Hell said during their wasted lives on Earth?
There are counter-videos? Got a link? I really want to see them.
Also, there is no direct link between Christianity and the wars in the middle-east. If you want to be angry, be angry with the American government (100% to blame), or Americans in general (75% to blame), but Christ didn’t come out of the Bible and tell us to pick up guns and go war upon Arabs.
I’m both a Christian and a “truther”, by the way. I’ve seen and read too much about our government’s past acts of secret treason (Agent Orange, Project Monarch, etc.) upon its citizens and terrorism (such as in South/Central America) upon the world to think anything positive of our politicians anymore.
I wish the commenting system on here would allow me to up-vote your comment.
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I watched the video and I think the behaviour of the Muslims was inexcusable. And I say this as an atheist – I have no interest in supporting Christianity except that I see the difference between these Christians and the Muslims and I would rather, much rather, these Muslims be converted to a reasonable brand of Christianity than that they worship the Moon god, Allah and cling to “the religion of peace” and make war on us.
Muslims are extremely intolerant and do not even accept cartoon depictions of their prophet, Mohammed – they are so violent that news channels are afraid to show the cartoons they rise up in anger about, for fear of being bombed or killed by Muslims. Islam is a dangerous cult that has as its aim the forcing of the whole World to submit to their Moon god, or face death. They only say they are peaceful as “taqiyya” – Mohammed told them to lie and deceive the “infidels” by convincing them (us) that Islam is a “religion of peace” when in fact it is nothing but an evil murderous, xenophobic cult.