Bill O’Reilly’s Jesus is a product of his own imagination.
But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. – 2 Corinthians 11:3-4.
National Geographic’s Killing Jesus film, based on the book by Fox News pundit Bill O’Reilly, is just the latest example of a Hollywood “Christian” film that distorts the Bible, misrepresents the Christian faith and blasphemes the name of The Lord Jesus Christ. The film, like other recent Christian movies, which seems like a solid effort from the trailers is based on a single incorrect premise – that Jesus Christ was a normal man and great teacher who performed no supernatural acts nor ever claimed to be God. O’Reilly’s blatant lack of respect for the authority of the Bible and denigration of Jesus Christ to mere man is yet another sinful step those in the false modern church are taking towards the end time one world false religion of Antichrist.
The Trailer
Here is the trailer for the film:
Jesus Christ – The Mere Mortal?
This “Jesus” does not even understand how John the Baptist recognized him.
This is the first time we see Jesus as the man, not as this kind of spiritual divinity. Even though all that is there — and I think that’s important, because the main teachings about Jesus was to teach men how you could become better.” He continued: “If you look at this person and you see an angel or a God, you’re not going to be able to relate to it. But if you see a man with all his faculties you say, ‘Wow, He’s like me.’ He’s a working class intelligent man. Every person can see something in them that Jesus has. That’s what you’re going to get from this story. The real human side of Jesus.” – Chris Ryman, who plays Malchus in Killing Jesus. (source).
While the production quality and acting may seem on par with quality Hollywood films, Killing Jesus film is an attempt to rewrite Biblical history by casting Jesus as a normal man who was thrust into the role of Messiah. In the film, Jesus, when encountering John the Baptist at the Jordan river, does not even realize that God had sent him. At the :28 second mark of the clip below, the scene shows Jesus confused that John the Baptist recognized him and that God told John about him:
O’Reilly’s Jesus says he is “..a carpenter. Nothing more.” As the lead actor continues to discuss his role, he incorrectly says that Jesus wanted to show “his humanity” and teach the world how “beautiful” it is. This clip on its own shows the blatant and reckless disregard for the Biblical text that O’Reilly and the film producers have. In the Bible, it is clear that Jesus Christ was well aware of His mission – to die for the sins of humanity on the cross and serve as the perfect sacrifice to provide atonement for all those who believe upon His name:
And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. – John 8:23-24.
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. – John 6:37-40.
Jesus was perfectly clear that He came from Heaven. He never described Himself as a mere mortal man. His words leave no such interpretation to be possible. Jesus Christ was also not just a “wise man”, “philosopher” or “great teacher.” The Gospels show Jesus time and time again preaching that He is the way to eternal life. That the only way for a person to save their soul is through faith in Him:
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. – John 14:6-7.
The miracles Jesus performed confirmed that He Is God.
The purpose of Jesus’ miracles was to establish and provide proof that He was indeed the Messiah:
And, behold, they brought to [Jesus] a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee. And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth. And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts? For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk? But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house. And he arose, and departed to his house. – Matthew 9:2-7.
Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father’s name, they bear witness of me. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. – John 10:24-26.
When Jesus encounters John the Baptist in Matthew Chapter 3, not only is Jesus aware of His mission, one of the greatest confirmations of Jesus being the Son of God is recorded:
Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John [the Baptist], to be baptized of him. But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. – Matthew 3:13-17.
Note that in the passage, Jesus is fully aware that He is fulfilling “all righteousness” by allowing John to baptize Him. Following the baptism, the Holy Spirit descended above Jesus and God the Father spoke from Heaven proclaiming Jesus to be His “beloved Son.” This beautiful account of the triune God is of course committed from the Killing Jesus film. Instead, a bewildered Jesus finds out from John that God has been “speaking about him.” How can a film go so far off from the Biblical account? How can O’Reilly, a professing Christian, make such an inaccurate portrayal? The answer is simple – Bill O’Reilly does not believe the Bible.
The Denial Factor – Bill O’Reilly’s Rejection of Biblical Truth
O’Reilly’s repeated statements show that he does not believe the Bible to be divinely-inspired or accurate.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. – 2 Timothy 3:16-17.
The Bible proclaims divine inspiration. Rather than being “an ancient book written by men”, the Bible claims that all of its authors wrote under direct inspiration from The Holy Spirit. As such, it is a supernatural book. Whether one believes this or not is one of the major dividing lines in the church today as much of modern Christians are moving into the apostasy – the prophesied falling away of the church from sound Biblical doctrine into man-made, New Age and satanic teachings. Many pastors and churchgoers alike today no longer take the Bible as God’s Word. Instead they see it as a book written by mere mortal men, who had an agenda to promote their own ideas. And along with other false and easily refuted arguments (i.e., “the Bible has been translated thousands of times!”, “the books of the Bible were hand picked centuries after they written!”), it becomes easy to conclude the Bible is corrupted and fallible and thus one can pick and choose what is “correct” and what is “error.” O’Reilly is a perfect example of this. On page 2 of Killing Jesus he writes:
“Of course we have the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, but they sometimes appear contradictory and were written from a spiritual point of view rather than as a historical chronicling of Jesus life.” (Killing Jesus, p.2).
Contrast O’Reilly’s view of Scripture with the Bible’s own statements:
He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. – 1 John 5:10-13.
O’Reilly denies the record of Scripture. He also denies its divine inspiration. Once a person does this, then of course the Gospel account of Jesus is open to reinvention as seen in Killing Jesus. The Word of God is the foundation of Christianity. Romans chapter 10 explains: “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” Without God’s Word a person cannot have saving faith in Jesus Christ. It is The Word of God that convicts a person’s heart of their sin. It is the Word of God that moves a person’s heart to repentance to believe in God and the Gospel. Jesus Christ said: “It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” (John 6:63). Rather than give God’s Word to a Biblically illiterate and spiritually bankrupt society, the modern day apostate church wants to condemn and attack God’s Word.
Here is a clip of O’Reilly explaining that he believes most of the Bible to be “allegorical” and mocks much of Scripture:
In the clip below O’Reilly responds to criticisms from the earlier video and makes the wildly incorrect statement that Jesus did not confirm the account of the prophet Jonah in the whale:
Jesus Christ said: “For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” (Matthew 12:40). Jesus did indeed confirm that Jonah being swallowed by a whale and living inside of it for three days was a historical event and not an allegory. And Jesus references it as a foreshadow of His own death and burial for 3 days before resurrection – a much greater miracle.
In the Gospel of Luke we read in the account of the crucifixion of The Lord Jesus Christ:
And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left. Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. – Luke 23:33-34.
In the clip below, O’Reilly refutes this account saying Jesus did not make that statement on the cross:
O’Reilly bases his statements on “reason” and his own opinions, not any historical source. The Apostle John in his opening verses of the Book of 1 John wrote:
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;) That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ. – 1 John 1:1-3.
Once again, the Bible does not leave room for it to be interpreted as “the words of men” or “writings by people with an agenda.” The Biblical authors claim divine inspiration and direct eyewitness to what they wrote.
Despite his denial of Biblical inerrancy, rejection of the miracles of Jesus and mockery of those who believe the Bible, O’Reilly claimed that Killing Jesus was inspired by the Holy Spirit:
Notice that O’Reilly does not believe the Holy Spirit could inspire the Bible, nor does he believe in the supernatural miracles of Jesus Christ. But he believes that the Holy Spirit chose him and inspired him to write Killing Jesus. This despite the fact even his “historical evidence” is fraught with error (in the book he credits the “Philistines” for defeating the Northern Kingdom of Israel when it was the Assyrians. He also says Jesus died at 36 years of age, when in reality Jesus was crucified at age 33).
What spirit inspired such a blasphemous and inaccurate portrayal of Jesus? The Spirit of God? Sadly, many self-proclaimed “Christians” today are making the same error of O’Reilly – picking and choosing what parts of the Bible they want to believe and creating and image of Jesus Christ that suits their own personal tastes and lifestyle. And as a result, they can spend their lives telling everyone they know they are Christians, attending church, praying, etc., but do not even know the true Savior because they did not have faith or even bother to read The Word of God:
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. – Matthew 7:21-23.
Promoting One World Religion
The Killing Jesus website uses teachings from the Koran right alongside the Bible.
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. – Acts 4:12.
Like, Roma Downey, the creator of The Bible Miniseries and Son of God film (both of which were highly unbiblical), O’Reilly is a Roman Catholic. The Roman Catholic church practices a number of unbiblical, heretical doctrines. In the clip below, O’Reilly explains one of them as the basis for his belief that any person, regardless of their faith or religion, can go to Heaven:
Jesus Christ said: “I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.” (John 8:24). But if the Bible is mostly allegorical and wrong, a person does not have to believe those words. This is the incredible, satanic danger of O’Reilly’s false form of Christianity. Killing Jesus continues this thought by embracing Islamic sources on Jesus right alongside the Bible.
I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. – Galatians 1:6-9.
The Bible leaves no room to compromise its message and promises a curse upon those who do. Faith in the accuracy of the Bible is critical to being a Christian. Yet the message of Killing Jesus and its cast members repeatedly preach their false gospel of Jesus the “great teacher”, comparing The Lord to Buddha or Confucius and denying His deity and the clear exclusivity of Biblical Christianity. All in hopes of preaching a message that will appeal to mass audiences. Do not be deceived.
Was Jesus Killed Over Taxes?
The real Jesus Christ was not killed over high taxes.
For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. – Mark 10:45.
In O’Reilly’s inaccurate, heretical account, Jesus was crucified because he threatened the tax system of the ancient Roman empire. Of course this was never stated in the Bible. The motivation the Pharisees and the religious leadership had for conspiring to arrange Jesus Christ’s execution was that He claimed to be God:
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. I and my Father are one. Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. – John 10:27-33.
This passage highlights the issue the Pharisees had with Jesus – it was his proclamation that He was the prophesied Messiah, the Son of God. It was not as O’Reilly states, because Jesus was stopping “the money flow” of the Pharisees. This is confirmed again in Matthew 26.
But Jesus held his peace, And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God. Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy. What think ye? They answered and said, He is guilty of death. – Matthew 26:63-66.
In this passage The Lord Jesus Christ quotes a Messianic prophecy from the book of Daniel, identifying Himself as the Messiah who would ride into Heaven on clouds. Once again, Jesus proclaimed His deity, citing a passage that Pharisees immediately recognized. And the reaction of the religious leaders was that Jesus should be executed for His words. Why? Because they, like O’Reilly, saw Jesus as a mere man. Nowhere in Scripture do we see the Pharisees or any other Jewish leadership discussing Jesus hurting their financial situation. Rather, they were concerned about Jesus’ message which convicted them of their sins and was winning souls to true saving faith and away from the false teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.
At the last supper Jesus announced His mission – to die for the forgiveness of sin.
At the last supper Passover, Jesus once again confirmed His specific mission:
And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. – Matthew 26:26-28.
Jesus Christ chose to lay down His life and die as a sacrifice to atone for the sins of the world. All people have sinned and deserve damnation from God. Christ took the punishment of all people on the cross, standing in the place of filthy, wretched sinners, in order to provide a “ransom” so that those who believe in Him can be declared innocent before God. All sin will be punished. God as a just judge, cannot let any sin simply go without judgment. The question is whether or not you will take the punishment for your sins or if you put your faith in Jesus Christ’s substitutionary atonement on the cross for you and receive the gift of eternal life.
Believe In The Real Jesus Christ
The Real Jesus Christ is found in the pages of Scripture.
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. – 1 John 5:13.
The Killing Jesus film is just one of many pseudo-Christian films that seek to distort and rewrite the Biblical text. And it highlights the most critical issue in the modern church – respect for the authority of the Bible. The Bible prophesied that many people in the days before the end times would pervert and attack the Bible, teaching their own ideas and philosophies in the place of God’s Word. And these people would lead their followers to heresy and destruction. If you are a Christian, understand that faith comes from the Bible – the Word of God. So if you do not believe the Bible to be true, then you have to seriously question if you faith at all. Pray to God for greater faith. Study the Bible with an open heart and mind and ask to receive understanding that the Holy Spirit provides.
And if you are not a Christian, understand that Bill O’Reilly’s book and film on Jesus Christ is just a man-made reinterpretation. The true Jesus Christ has not been killed by these nonsensical movies. He sits at the right hand of the throne of God and still provides free forgiveness of sin for those who believe. Learn the real Gospel message and start to get to know Jesus Christ through His own words -as written in the Bible. God loves you and recorded His love over 2,000 years of history. Do not let one movie deceive you into thinking otherwise.
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. – John 8:31-32.
I concur with your review of O’Reilly’s movie. After watching a short while with my young son, we turned it off in disgust! I am however a Catholic and fear like Bill O’Reilly, you are making assumptions and false interpretations of the Catholic Church. O’Reilly does not follow our beliefs or our teachings. He does not speak for us. Please be careful not to commit the same sin as Bill when you criticize our religion. If you trace of your own church’s beginnings chances are you will see that it had its roots in the Catholic Church. Pray to The Holy Spirit and do some better research. the devil is very effective at using divide and conquer tactics to scatter the flock and pit them against each other. Christians, which Catholics are, believe in; the Virgin birth, the Crucification and Death, and the Resurrection of Jesus Christ. We believe that Jesus is One part of the Holy Trinity, Three persons in One true God; Father, Son and Holy Spirit! Peace be with you and have a Happy Easter, He is Risen!
Hi Patrick,
Thanks for your comments and your bold proclamation of faith. I do think there is much in the Biblical Gospel that the Roman Catholic Church preaches. However there is much in their doctrine that is just not found in the Bible. I am simply going to quote official Roman Catholic doctrine and you can let me know if you agree or disagree with it:
1) “Both Scripture and Tradition must be accepted and honored with equal sentiments of devotion and reverence.” – Catechism of the Catholic Church 82.
2) “The bishops, successors of the apostles, receive from the Lord . . . the mission of teaching all peoples, and of preaching the Gospel to every creature, so that all men may attain salvation through faith, Baptism and the observance of the Commandments.” Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2068.
3) Taken up to heaven [The Virgin Mary] did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation. By her maternal charity, she cares for the brethren of her Son, who still journey on earth surrounded by dangers and difficulties, until they are led into their blessed home. Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress and Mediatrix.” – Chapter 8 of the Dogmatic Constitution of the Church,
I will await your response. And thanks again for your comments. He is risen indeed! -B&E
Thank you for your email. Understand that there are many Catholics, and other Christian denominations for that matter, who are Catholic or Christian in name only. They profess to be believers but are acting out of habit instead of true belief. Unfortunately every denomination is populated with human members that fall to sin. I would rather focus on the common core beliefs that we share; The VirginBirth, the Crucification and Death of Our Lord Jesus, The descent of the Holy Spirit and Jesus Ascension into heaven as many disciples looked on with His promise to return again. Arguing and debating only pleases the devil. You can trace many current denominations back to the Catholic Church, many of which strongly condemn my church today, to see how effective the devil is at division? When Christians fall into this debate with each other we waste valuable time trying to prove one another wrong over specific doctrine instead of bringing non believers to Christ. Look at how effective the devil is today convincing our young that evolution is sound proven fact and that God and any thought of creation are silly fairy tales. I am so pleased with my young son when he researches and shares items to refute evolution with me. Like the evolution Vs. God Youtube video, God is not Dead movie on Netflix, etc… . Let’s spread the word that God is real and that Jesus is God rather than split hairs over different interpretations. the devil knows the bible better than us both and often uses it as a tool to confuse and divide us, to pit believers against each other. I am a sinner like all but my faith is strong. If my speaking out offended you I apologize, attacks on my church offend me but I chose to remain focused on Jesus and His Love for us all then to dwell on our differences. If a person believes and follows Jesus I consider them part of The Universal Church, The living Body of Christ. Peace be with you.
Thank you for your reply. Understand that there are many Catholics, and other Christian denominations for that matter, who are Catholic or Christian in name only. They profess to be believers but are acting out of habit instead of true belief. Unfortunately every denomination is populated with human members that fall to sin. I would rather focus on the common core beliefs that we share; The Virgin Birth, the Crucification and Death of Our Lord Jesus, The descent of the Holy Spirit and Jesus Ascension into heaven as many disciples looked on with His promise to return again. Arguing and debating only pleases the devil. You can trace many current denominations back to the Catholic Church, many of which strongly condemn my church today, to see how effective the devil is at division? When Christians fall into this debate with each other we waste valuable time trying to prove one another wrong over specific doctrine instead of bringing non believers to Christ. Look at how effective the devil is today convincing our young that evolution is sound proven fact and that God and any thought of creation are silly fairy tales. I am so pleased with my young son when he researches and shares items to refute evolution with me. Like the evolution Vs. God Youtube video, God is not Dead movie on Netflix, etc… . Let’s spread the word that God is real and that Jesus is God rather than split hairs over different interpretations. the devil knows the bible better than us both and often uses it as a tool to confuse and divide us, to pit believers against each other. I am a sinner like all but my faith is strong. If my speaking out offended you I apologize, attacks on my church offend me but I chose to remain focused on Jesus and His Love for us all then to dwell on our differences. If a person believes and follows Jesus I consider them part of The Universal Church, The living Body of Christ. Peace be with you.
Hi Patrick,
Thanks for your reply. I appreciate your desire to be civil and not sow discord among believers. That is admirable and certainly Biblical. However I still respectfully disagree with your position. You said:
The Bible commands Bible-believing Christians to do otherwise:
The Apostle Paul spent three years, day and night warning the church about false teachers. The Bible commands Bible Believing Christians to “mark” false teachers – meaning identify them so that the church can avoid them. The Book of Jude tells us to “content for the faith once given to the saints.” We are indeed commanded to fight, expose and remove ourselves from false doctrine.
You said that we should spread that the Word of God is real – and I agree wholeheartedly. but if it’s real, then should we not follow and live by its commands? Especially in this current age of aposatsy and rampant spiritual deception (O’Reilly’s film being a prime example). I presented several quotes directly from Roman Catholic foundational doctrine that were blatant heresy and you did not even address them. I submit that this should be a matter of spiritual concern. We are in an age where many people “believe in Jesus”. But sadly, there are many different versions of “Jesus” that have been fabricated and falsified that are being preached today. Which is why adhering to the bible and the Bible alone for doctrine is of utmost importance.
i humbly urge you to search these passages offered and others and see for yourself if my representation of them is true. If not, I welcome your correction. But if my reading is correct, then I would urge you to meditate on them and determine what is more important, the man-made, error-filled, heretical doctrine of the Roman Catholic church or the inerrant, divinely-inspired Word of God. -B&E
Michele, you may have had something bad happen in your past that compels you to attack the Catholic Church? I will stand with you against O’Reilly’s awful movie which questions the Divinity of Jesus but refuse to debate you any further about my church. The church history and facts are there for anyone who would like more detail but I do not have the time or interest to get into a lengthy debate with you about my church, which I have been a member of my entire life. I am not trying to convert anyone into being a Catholic and nothing you can say will make me leave my church. The Holy Spirit will draw people on the right path, I was just voicing my opinion in support of your position on the movie. Peace be with you.
Read the first chapter of Malachi Martin’s “Windswept House” to glean an understanding of who the Catholic hierarchy gives its allegiance to and who it does not.
Prynhawn da/Good afternoon and Hi
Hi B and E
In the true spirit of Hollywood, story writing (book or magazine) or anything controversial to do with religion, is guaranteed to be a money spinner, and the one thing I have learnt, is that Christianity is all about making money for the Church or for the pastor or the writers involved. And televised evangelism is probably the most corrupt of Christian religious greed. Authors from Dan Brown to Bill O’Reilly do it not for the love of it, but for the money it will make them, every book these authors have written have been controversial. Brown’s writing has been criticized by scholars for serious error, O’Reilly’s books have been about the deaths of famous people, however, I am not against anyone making money from whatever their endeavours are, as long as the non-fiction writing is about the truth, and that they have citations to match, etc. However, lay persons are not the problem when it comes to the truth. What upsets me is everyday I read or see some religious person during media coverage, beit a priest, pastor, or some religious blog contributors, citing fables as facts from the Bible, and in additions claiming it to be the work of god. When the evidence suggest is something different, but they still propagate these lies and myths. Christianity should get its own house in order before condemning others.
Examples: 1 John 5:7-8 aka Johannine Comma, which has an interpolation in the centre of the verse, which is a blatant forgery to authenticate the trinity theory, probable forged after 400’s.
The insertion reads as thus: [in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth] when the verse should read: For there are three that bear record [insertion here] the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.[http://www.bible-researcher.com/comma.html] Scholarly consensus say’s that it should not be in the Bible!
Example: John 7:53-8:11 aka Pericope Adulterae (woman taken in adultery), out of the thousands of Greek manuscripts (MSS), this story of the adulteress is only in found in a handful of later MSS. Scholarly consensus say’s that it should not be in the Bible!
Example: The long version verses of Mark 16:9-20, are not in the earliest biblical MSS [http://www.bible-researcher.com/endmark.html] Scholarly consensus ask if these verses should be in the Bible!
Cofion (regards)
Jero Jones, Mab Cymru
“Reason” is the illumination of apostasy, and in our fallen sinful state, reason is a gift fraught with peril, which often contradicts faith and the truth of the spirit. O’Reilly is a man of reason rather than faith, and here you see the fruits of the intellect, which calls the truth a lie and a lie the truth. Sad, but not surprising.
This “reason” you’re referring to is not true reason, but a false one. True reason is in accordance with faith in righteousness and spiritual wisdom.
The NWO is trying to prepare people to accept a man, like David de Rothschild, pictured at the link below, as Christ/Isa/Horus reincarnated who has returned to save the world.
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I suspect that Obama will go over to the UN after his presidency at which time he will try to play the part of the Mahdi. Islamic prophecies suggest that Christ will return to walk alongside the Mahdi. I believe the NWO will traipse David de Rothschild out to play the part of Christ/Isa/Horus reincarnated. The fact that he will try to play the part of Christ, Isa, and Horus will lead many Christians, Jews, Muslims, and pagans into following a character that is nothing more than a mortal man.
why is this jero jones still on here??? hes always making posts attacking the bible and christianity and its obvious hes an atheist. This website is for bible believers only, never come back on this website again, you are nothing but a lowlife if you are just making random comments on a christian community site of which you have no place here.
B&E, good job calling out O’Reilly’s interpretation of scripture as a lie.
In regards to Catholicism, I was raised Catholic. However, once I have my heart to Jesus and received the Holy Spirit, I began to see the lies perpetuated by that church. I would like to focus on one:
“The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seated as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.” (1Timothy 4:1-3) NIV
I believe Paul is referring to the Catholic Church in this passage. One could argue all day whether that was true. What one cannot argue is that the practice of forbidding priests to marry and teaching others to refrain from eating certain foods is definitely taught by the Catholic Church. It is impossible to ignore or refute that these particular Catholic teachings are the same as what Paul describes as “……things taught by demons.” This is just one example of something the Catholic Church teaches that is contrary to God’s word.
Does this mean that all Catholics are evil? Of course not! The Lord said that we need only to believe in Him to be saved. All of us are at different levels of faith and none of us will become perfect. Salvation is the gift of God for those who believe.
The greater sin falls on the shoulders of the leaders within Catholicism and upon those who founded this flawed version of Christianity. Many of us never stop to think why they believe what they believe. Most are raised a certain way and just continue living their tradition without giving it much thought. The day is here where we must all re-open our hearts to the Lord. We must allow the Holy Spirit to show is the imperfections in our life and allow Jesus to transform is into His likeness. When we do this, we will begin to see things more clearly and be able to accurately discern right from wrong.
In regards to the Islamic reference to Jesus, this is the devil’s attempt to confuse the true identity of Christ. Muslims believe in a Jesus but he is much different from our Jesus. They believe he is a prophet of Allah and respect him very much. The major difference is they do not believe he is the Son of God or that he died on the cross for our sins. Hence, they do not believe in the true Jesus.
There are many references in the bible that point toward the anti-Christ kingdom being Islamic:
1) “He (anti-Christ) will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and laws.” (Daniel 7:25) NIV
The Muslims have their own calendar. They also have their own way of telling time (Mecca Time) which is different from ours (Greenwich Mean Time).We all know they have laws that are much different than ours (Sharia Law).
2) “And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God.” (Revelation 20:4) NIV
Thanks to ISIS, we all know a favorite method of radical Islam to execute unbelievers is by beheading their victims.
3) “Then I saw a second beast (false prophet) coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.” (Revelation 13:11) NIV
This clearly is a reference to a false Muslim Jesus who will aid anti-Christ during the last days. In later passages this second beast is referred to as the “false prophet.”Islam regards Jesus as a prophet of Allah. Also, the bible refers to this false prophet as having “…..two horns like a Lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.” We know the bible often refers to Jesus as “the Lamb of God.” This false prophet appears to be gentle like a Lamb but is really evil like a dragon. A Muslim Jesus would fit these descriptions perfectly.
Many Muslims also believe that when Jesus comes back to earth, he will help force the entire world to be governed by an Islamic Caliphate (government ruled through Sharia Law), using violence of necessary.
4) “People worshipped the dragon (Satan) because he had given authority to the beast (anti-Christ), and they also worshipped the beast and asked, ‘Who is like the beast?Who can wage war against it?” (Revelation 13:4) NIV
Allah is Satan. People will worship him because the anti-Christ will proclaim Islam as the one true faith. They will also worship anti-Christ, idolizing him due to his great power.
Anti-Christ will also denounce Christianity with the help of a false, Muslim Jesus. The coming of this false Muslim Jesus will fulfill Muslim prophecy, uniting their entire population. It will also deceive those Christians who do not have a true faith in our Lord. They will be fooled when he claims that the Christian bible was a lie. This will be the rebellion of the faith that Jesus and Paul speak of in our bible.
All of these descriptions found in our bible that describe anti-Christ and the final days point towards our world being ruled under an Islamic Caliphate: The universal intolerance and beheading of Christians, the strict world economic system, the reference to a false prophet (a prophet is a religious term)…..The acts of ISIS that we see today are a precursor of what life will be like in this world shortly before our Lord returns. We are comforted in the knowledge that if we stand tall and not renounce our faith in Jesus as the Son of God (even under the threat of execution), we will inherit eternal life with the one TRUE God!
B&E, good job calling out O’Reilly’s interpretation of scripture as a lie.
In regards to Catholicism, I was raised Catholic. However, once I have my heart to Jesus and received the Holy Spirit, I began to see the lies perpetuated by that church. I would like to focus on one:
“The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seated as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.” (1Timothy 4:1-3) NIV
I believe Paul is referring to the Catholic Church in this passage. One could argue all day whether that was true. What one cannot argue is that the practice of forbidding priests to marry and teaching others to refrain from eating certain foods is definitely taught by the Catholic Church. It is impossible to ignore or refute that these particular Catholic teachings are the same as what Paul describes as “……things taught by demons.” This is just one example of something the Catholic Church teaches that is contrary to God’s word.
Does this mean that all Catholics are evil? Of course not! The Lord said that we need only to believe in Him to be saved. All of us are at different levels of faith and none of us will become perfect. Salvation is the gift of God for those who believe.
The greater sin falls on the shoulders of the leaders within Catholicism and upon those who founded this flawed version of Christianity. Many of us never stop to think why they believe what they believe. Most are raised a certain way and just continue living their tradition without giving it much thought. The day is here where we must all re-open our hearts to the Lord. We must allow the Holy Spirit to show is the imperfections in our life and allow Jesus to transform is into His likeness. When we do this, we will begin to see things more clearly and be able to accurately discern right from wrong.
In regards to the Islamic reference to Jesus, this is the devil’s attempt to confuse the true identity of Christ. Muslims believe in a Jesus but he is much different from our Jesus. They believe he is a prophet of Allah and respect him very much. The major difference is they do not believe he is the Son of God or that he died on the cross for our sins. Hence, they do not believe in the true Jesus.
There are many references in the bible that point toward the anti-Christ kingdom being Islamic:
1) “He (anti-Christ) will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and laws.” (Daniel 7:25) NIV
The Muslims have their own calendar. They also have their own way of telling time (Mecca Time) which is different from ours (Greenwich Mean Time).We all know they have laws that are much different than ours (Sharia Law).
2) “And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God.” (Revelation 20:4) NIV
Thanks to ISIS, we all know a favorite method of radical Islam to execute unbelievers is by beheading their victims.
3) “Then I saw a second beast (false prophet) coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.” (Revelation 13:11) NIV
This clearly is a reference to a false Muslim Jesus who will aid anti-Christ during the last days. In later passages this second beast is referred to as the “false prophet.”Islam regards Jesus as a prophet of Allah. Also, the bible refers to this false prophet as having “…..two horns like a Lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.” We know the bible often refers to Jesus as “the Lamb of God.” This false prophet appears to be gentle like a Lamb but is really evil like a dragon. A Muslim Jesus would fit these descriptions perfectly.
Many Muslims also believe that when Jesus comes back to earth, he will help force the entire world to be governed by an Islamic Caliphate (government ruled through Sharia Law), using violence of necessary.
4) “People worshipped the dragon (Satan) because he had given authority to the beast (anti-Christ), and they also worshipped the beast and asked, ‘Who is like the beast?Who can wage war against it?” (Revelation 13:4) NIV
Allah is Satan. People will worship him because the anti-Christ will proclaim Islam as the one true faith. They will also worship anti-Christ, idolizing him due to his great power.
Anti-Christ will also denounce Christianity with the help of a false, Muslim Jesus. The coming of this false Muslim Jesus will fulfill Muslim prophecy, uniting their entire population. It will also deceive those Christians who do not have a true faith in our Lord. They will be fooled when he claims that the Christian bible was a lie. This will be the rebellion of the faith that Jesus and Paul speak of in our bible.
All of these descriptions found in our bible that describe anti-Christ and the final days point towards our world being ruled under an Islamic Caliphate: The universal intolerance and beheading of Christians, the strict world economic system, the reference to a false prophet (a prophet is a religious term)…..The acts of ISIS that we see today are a precursor of what life will be like in this world shortly before our Lord returns. We are comforted in the knowledge that if we stand tall and not renounce our faith in Jesus as the Son of God (even under the threat of execution), we will inherit eternal life with the one TRUE God!
B&E does a good job in calling out O’Reilly’s interpretation of scripture as a lie.
I was reading some other posts on here and I’d like to address some of those points if I may. In regards to Catholicism, I was raised Catholic. However, once I gave my heart to Jesus and received the Holy Spirit, I began to see the lies perpetuated by that church. I would like to focus on one:
“The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.” (1Timothy 4:1-3) NIV
I believe Paul is referring to the Catholic Church in this passage. One could argue all day whether that was true. What one cannot argue is that the practice of forbidding priests to marry and teaching others to refrain from eating certain foods is definitely found within the Catholic Church. It is impossible to ignore or refute that these particular Catholic teachings are the same for which Paul describes as “…things taught by demons.” This is just one example that the Catholic Church teaches things that are contrary to the word of God.
Does this mean that all Catholics are evil? Of course not! The Lord said that we need only to believe in Him to be saved. All of us are at different levels of faith and none of us will ever be perfect. Salvation is the gift of God for those who believe. The greater sin falls on the shoulders of the leaders within the church and upon those who founded this flawed version of Christianity. Many people never stop to think why they believe what they believe. Most are raised a certain way and just continue their tradition without giving it much thought. The days is here where we must all open our hearts to the Lord. We must analyze all of our thoughts and actions to see if they are of God or not. We must allow the Holy Spirit to show us the imperfections in our life and allow Jesus to transform us into his likeness. When we do this, we will begin to see things more clearly and be able to accurately discern right from wrong.
In regards to the Islamic reference to Jesus, this is the devil’s attempt to confuse the true identity of Christ. Muslims believe in a Jesus, but he is very different from our Jesus. They believe that he was a prophet of Allah and respect him very much. The major difference is they do not believe he is the Son of God or that he died for our sins on the cross.
There are many references within the bible that point towards the anti-Christ regime being Islamic:
1) “He (anti-Christ) will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws.” (Daniel 7:25) NIV
The Muslims have their own calendar. They also have their own way of telling time (Mecca Time) which is different than ours (Greenwich Mean Time). We all know they have laws that are much different than ours as well (Sharia Law)
2) “And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God.” (Revelation 20:4) NIV
Thanks to ISIS, we all know a favorite method of radical Islam to execute unbelievers is by beheading their victims.
3) “Then I saw a second beast (false prophet), coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.” (Revelation 13:11) NIV
This clearly is a reference to a false Muslim Jesus that will aid anti-Christ during the last days. In later passages this second beast is referred to as the “false prophet.” Islam regards Jesus as a prophet of Allah. Also, the bible refers to this false prophet as having “……two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.” We know the bible often refers to Jesus as the “Lamb of God.” This false prophet also appears to have gentle qualities ( of a lamb) but actually is evil ( like a dragon). A Muslim Jesus would fit these qualities perfectly.
Many Muslims also believe that when Jesus comes back to earth, he will force the entire world into an Islamic Caliphate, using force if necessary. This also fits nicely within the bible’s description of what the final days will be like. Many Christians will be murdered if they do not worship anti-Christ.
4) “People worshiped the dragon (Satan) because he had given authority to the beast (anti-Christ), and they also worshiped the beast and asked, ‘Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?’ (Revelation 13:4) NIV
Allah is Satan. People will worship him because the anti-Christ will proclaim Islam as the one true faith. They will also worship anti-Christ as a human idol, mesmerized by his power and the deceiving spell of Satan. Anti-Christ will also denounce Christianity with the help of a false, Muslim Jesus. This Muslim Jesus will present a strong argument in the form of miraculous signs and wonders. Only those with a strong relationship with the true Jesus and the Holy Spirit will be able to resist this strong delusion.
All of the descriptions in the bible describing anti-Christ and the final days point to him being Islamic: The universal intolerance and beheading of Christians and Jews, the strict world economic system, the reference to a false prophet points to it’s religious nature…..The acts of ISIS that we see in today’s world is a precursor to what life will be like shortly before our Lord returns. We are comforted in the knowledge that if we stand tall and not renounce our faith in the Jesus as the Son of God, even to the point of death, we will inherit eternal life with the one TRUE God!
I would like to share two links. This first one describes how Muslims are waiting for a man they call Imam Mahdi. They believe he will appear at the end of the world (along with Jesus) to bring the whole world under Islamic law:
http://www.islamicweb.com/history/mahdi.htm
Notice how this man refers to the anti-Christ and that Jesus will come and then Muslims will kill all Jews.
Here is a recent video of the leader of Iran speaking of this very topic:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-87w3jBSH8
Remember, every thought is either inspired by God or by Satan. These men are not just making this up because of some wild imagination. These ideas are being inspired by Satan and will one day be fulfilled. This Imam Mahdi will be anti-Christ. Satan will use this man to unite the Muslim world. With the help of a Muslim Jesus (false prophet), he will deceive even some Christians and kill any who believe in Jesus as the Son of God.
What better way for Satan to deceive the world? The devil is a master counterfeiter of God’s work. Islam is a counterfeit of Christianity. Islam’s Jesus is part of his master plan to deny Jesus’ deity and add false validation to anti-Christ and to Islam. It’s all happening before our eyes. Let’s prepare our hearts so that we are not deceived.
B&E, I have a question. I have a larger comment that I have tried to post to this thread a few times only to have it fail. I posted another comment for a test and saw that it was successful. Then I tried to re-post my longer comment and was again unsuccessful.
My question is this- Are you censoring my comment or is there some sort of technical glitch? Perhaps it is too long? It doesn’t seem like it is longer than some other posts I see but maybe I’m wrong. If you are censoring my comment please let me know. I feel it is an important message so I keep trying to post it….but if you are blocking it, just let me know and I’ll stop trying. It’s your site and I will respect your decision, if that is the case.
Hi Joe – Our site screens every comment and holds some for moderation based on certain factors. Your comments are not in violation of any of our comment policies and are quite welcome. They should all appear now. God bless. -B&E
Ok, thanks
This always makes me wonder..why are they so caught up in blasphemy the Bible, why they don’t poke Quran or any other religions ? well I think I know already. There is a saying ‘ the challenged player is the one with the ball’
Blessings.
Why do Christians continue to give the religion a bad name by backbiting and criticizing each other? O’Reilly’s book was written by historians and comes from a historical point of view.
Constantine was the first to attempt a collection of books we now call a Bible. Yes, it was men who were to decide what books made the cut and which ones did not. What all Christians should do is love God and each other.
What is truly Christian? A belief that Jesus came to save us from the wages of our sin.
1. We are all sinners.
2. Jesus was the sacrifice for all of our sins.
3. Jesus came into the world, lived a sinless life, was baptized, crucified and then raised up on the third day.
4. We need to repent and be baptized.
5. His Grace is sufficient for all who believe in Him.
Hi Jack – Thanks for your comments. From a historian’s standpoint, Jesus’ words demonstrated He did not believe Himself to be a “normal man” and “nothing more.” So if one is going to be historically accurate, they have to deal with His proclamations of being the Son of God, the Messiah and predicting His death and resurrection. To simply deny these words is not doing the work of an historian. The Bible’s record as a historical manuscript is far superior to that of very popular, and academically recognized historic records. Yet if someone wrote a book saying “Julius Caesar was a low level soldier in the Roman army – nothing more” – would you accept that as quality work of a historian “from a historical point of view”? I would imagine you would say that is inaccurate because of the historical record that we already possess regarding Caesar. This is the point of the article.
Additionally, this is a ministry that loves our Messiah Jesus Christ. And we will continue to contend for the Christian faith until His return:
I hope you follow that same command. God bless. -B&E